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On ell-weakly cross t-intersecting families for sets and vector spaces

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Two ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting families of subspaces satisfy |F|·|G| ≤ [n−t choose k−t] [n−t choose k'−t] when n meets an explicit lower bound.

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The paper gives an alternative proof of the set version of the ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting theorem together with an explicit lower bound on n. For vector spaces it proves that any two families of k- and k'-dimensional subspaces obeying the ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting condition have product of cardinalities at most the product of two Gaussian binomials, provided the ambient dimension n is at least (2k−t+1)(t+1)+(k−t+1)k'+k+2ℓ−1. This extends the earlier result that held only for the ordinary cross t-intersecting case. A reader would care because the result supplies a uniform size bound under a relaxed intersection requirement that still forces the families to be large only when they concentrate around a common t-dimensional object.

Core claim

If F and G are ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting families of k- and k'-dimensional subspaces of an n-dimensional vector space over F_q, then |F|·|G| ≤ [n−t choose k−t] [n−t choose k'−t] holds whenever n ≥ (2k−t+1)(t+1)+(k−t+1)k'+k+2ℓ−1.

What carries the argument

The ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting condition, which requires that for every choice of ℓ distinct members from each family the sum of their pairwise intersection dimensions is at least ℓ²t − ℓ + 1.

If this is right

  • The bound recovers the known product upper bound for ordinary cross t-intersecting families when ℓ equals 1.
  • An explicit sufficient lower bound on n is supplied for the subspace result.
  • The analogous product bound for set families holds once n is large enough, with the paper supplying the explicit threshold.
  • The extremal families are expected to be the collections of all k-subspaces and all k'-subspaces containing a fixed t-dimensional subspace.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same style of argument might yield analogous bounds when the intersection condition is relaxed still further.
  • Small explicit computations for modest n and small ℓ could indicate whether the given lower bound on n is sharp.
  • The result supplies a template for studying product bounds on families obeying averaged rather than pointwise intersection requirements.

Load-bearing premise

The ambient dimension n must be at least (2k−t+1)(t+1)+(k−t+1)k'+k+2ℓ−1 for the product bound on subspace families to be proved.

What would settle it

A pair of ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting families F and G of subspaces with n at or above the stated threshold whose product of sizes exceeds the product of the two Gaussian binomials.

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Let $[n]$ (resp. $V$) be an $n$-element set (resp. $n$-dimensional vector space over the finite field $\mathbb{F}_{q}$), and $\binom{[n]}{k}$ (resp. $\genfrac{[}{]}{0pt}{}{V}{k}$) denote the set of all $k$-subsets of $[n]$ (resp. $k$-dimensional subspaces of $V$). We say that $\mathcal{F}\subseteq\binom{[n]}{k}$ (resp. $\mathcal{F}\subseteq \genfrac{[}{]}{0pt}{}{V}{k}$) and $\mathcal{G}\subseteq \binom{[n]}{k'}$ (resp. $\mathcal{G}\subseteq \genfrac{[}{]}{0pt}{}{V}{k'}$) are $\ell$-weakly cross $t$-intersecting if $\sum_{1\leq i,j\leq \ell}|F_{i}\cap G_{j}|\geq \ell^{2}t-\ell+1$ (resp. $\sum_{1\leq i,j\leq \ell}\dim(F_{i}\cap G_{j})\geq \ell^{2}t-\ell+1$) for all distinct $F_{1},\ldots,F_{\ell}\in\mathcal{F}$ and $G_{1},\ldots,G_{\ell}\in\mathcal{G}$. In this paper, we provide an alternative proof of the set version of the $\ell$-weakly cross $t$-intersecting theorem and an explicit lower bound for $n$. Moreover, we prove that if $\mathcal{F}$ and $\mathcal{G}$ are $\ell$-weakly cross $t$-intersecting subspace families, then \[ |\mathcal{F}| \cdot |\mathcal{G}| \leq\genfrac{[}{]}{0pt}{}{n-t}{k-t}\genfrac{[}{]}{0pt}{}{n-t}{k'-t} \] holds, provided that $n\geq (2k-t+1)(t+1)+(k-t+1)k'+k+2\ell-1$. This extends the theorem of Cao, Lu, Lv and Wang [J. Combin. Theory Ser. A 193 (2023), 105688], who established the upper bound for the product of the sizes of cross $t$-intersecting subspace families.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper gives an alternative proof of the ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting theorem for k-subsets and k'-subsets of an n-set, and proves that if F and G are ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting families of k- and k'-dimensional subspaces of an n-dimensional space over F_q, then |F|·|G| ≤ [n-t choose k-t]_q [n-t choose k'-t]_q whenever n ≥ (2k-t+1)(t+1)+(k-t+1)k'+k+2ℓ-1. This extends the Cao-Lu-Lv-Wang theorem (ℓ=1 case) by supplying an explicit dimension threshold for the q-analogue.

Significance. The explicit n-threshold for the subspace result and the alternative combinatorial argument for the set case are useful additions to the literature on intersecting families and their q-analogues. The manuscript states the dimension hypothesis as necessary for the proof and presents the bound as a direct extension of prior work.

minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract, definition of ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting: the summation condition is correctly stated, but a one-sentence remark noting that it reduces to ordinary cross t-intersecting when ℓ=1 would aid readability for readers unfamiliar with the generalization.
  2. [Introduction] The Gaussian binomial notation is introduced via genfrac; a brief parenthetical reminder of the standard q-binomial definition in the introduction would prevent any momentary ambiguity.

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We thank the referee for the positive evaluation of the manuscript and the recommendation to accept.

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full rationale

The paper supplies an alternative combinatorial proof for the set-version ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting bound and derives the subspace product bound under an explicitly stated lower bound on n that is required for the counting argument to close. Both results rest on standard extremal-set counting and the prior Cao-Lu-Lv-Wang theorem; no parameter is fitted inside the paper and then relabeled as a prediction, no self-citation chain is load-bearing, and the derivation does not reduce to a definition or renaming of its own inputs.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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The paper relies on the standard axioms of finite vector spaces, the definition of Gaussian binomial coefficients, and the dimension formula for intersections; no new entities or fitted parameters are introduced in the abstract.

axioms (1)
  • standard math Standard properties of dimension and intersection in finite-dimensional vector spaces over F_q.
    Invoked to define the Gaussian binomials and the intersection-dimension sum in the definition of ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting.

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