Sharp decay characterization for the incompressible Oldroyd-B model in critical L^p spaces
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An L2-type low-frequency condition on initial data is almost necessary and sufficient for optimal upper and lower bounds on temporal decay of solutions to the incompressible Oldroyd-B model without viscosity or damping in critical Besov spaces.
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Core claim
an L^2-type condition on the low-frequencies part of the initial data (u_0, τ_0) is almost both necessary and sufficient for obtaining optimal upper and lower bounds on the temporal decay of solutions in critical Besov spaces
Load-bearing premise
The new decomposition of the stress tensor into incompressible and compressible parts together with the effective tensor successfully controls the loss of regularity in high-frequency velocity without introducing uncontrolled errors or extra assumptions on the data.
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This paper establishes a sharp characterization of temporal decay rates for the incompressible Oldroyd-B model in a critical $L^p$ framework, covering the physically relevant and mathematically delicate case where both the fluid viscosity and the stress tensor damping are absent. We prove that an $L^2$-type condition on the low-frequencies part of the initial data $(u_0, \tau_0)$ is almost both necessary and sufficient for obtaining optimal upper and lower bounds on the temporal decay of solutions in critical Besov spaces. A key contribution is a new decomposition of the stress tensor into its incompressible and compressible parts, combined with the introduction of an effective tensor to handle the loss of regularity in the high-frequencies velocity field. This is the first result to reveal such precise two-sided asymptotics for the incompressible Oldroyd-B model without viscosity or damping.
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Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript establishes a sharp characterization of temporal decay rates for the incompressible Oldroyd-B model in critical L^p spaces when both fluid viscosity and stress-tensor damping are absent. It proves that an L^2-type condition on the low-frequency components of the initial data (u_0, τ_0) is almost necessary and sufficient for optimal upper and lower bounds on the decay of solutions in critical Besov spaces. The argument rests on a new decomposition of the stress tensor into incompressible and compressible parts together with an effective tensor that is introduced to control the loss of regularity in the high-frequency velocity field.
Significance. If the central estimates hold, the result supplies the first precise two-sided asymptotics for this model in the critical regime without viscosity or damping. The necessity-sufficiency statement in critical Besov spaces would constitute a sharp decay characterization that strengthens the literature on viscoelastic fluids.
major comments (1)
- [Decomposition and effective tensor (key technical contribution)] The lower-bound necessity statement (abstract and main theorem) requires that commutator terms generated by the decomposition of τ into incompressible/compressible parts plus the effective tensor are absorbed into the low-frequency L^2 control without destroying sharpness. The manuscript must exhibit the precise estimates showing these terms do not produce an extra decay loss that would invalidate the necessity claim.
minor comments (1)
- [Abstract and Theorem 1.1] Clarify the precise meaning of 'almost' in the necessity-sufficiency statement; state the exceptional set of data explicitly in the main theorem.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the careful reading and constructive feedback. The manuscript aims to provide the first sharp two-sided decay characterization for the incompressible Oldroyd-B model without viscosity or damping. We address the single major comment below and will revise the manuscript to strengthen the presentation of the key estimates.
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Referee: The lower-bound necessity statement (abstract and main theorem) requires that commutator terms generated by the decomposition of τ into incompressible/compressible parts plus the effective tensor are absorbed into the low-frequency L^2 control without destroying sharpness. The manuscript must exhibit the precise estimates showing these terms do not produce an extra decay loss that would invalidate the necessity claim.
Authors: We agree that explicit verification of the commutator absorption is essential to preserve sharpness in the necessity direction. The decomposition of the stress tensor and the effective tensor are introduced in Section 2. In the proof of the lower bound (Theorem 1.2, Section 4), the commutator terms are controlled via the estimates (4.12)–(4.15), which bound them by the low-frequency L^2 norm of the initial data without introducing an extra decay factor. To make this absorption fully transparent, we will insert a new remark immediately after the statement of the effective-tensor estimates (following Lemma 3.3) that isolates the commutator contributions and confirms they remain absorbed into the L^2 low-frequency control, thereby preserving the optimal rate. This addition does not alter the main theorems but directly addresses the referee’s request for explicit display of the estimates. revision: yes
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