On zero-sum Ramsey numbers of cycles and wheels
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The pith
For every fixed odd q≥3 and k≥35q, R(C_qk, Z_q) equals qk + q - 1.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
We prove that R(C_qk, Z_q) ≤ max{R(C_2q, Z_q), qk + q - 1} via an insertion argument rooted in the Erdős-Ginzburg-Ziv theorem. Combined with Pikhurko's result we obtain R(C_qk, Z_q) ≤ max{35q², qk + q - 1} for q ≥ 3. We also show R(C_qk, Z_q) ≥ qk + q - 1 for odd q ≥ 3. Hence for every fixed odd q ≥ 3 and every k ≥ 35q we obtain the exact value R(C_qk, Z_q) = qk + q - 1. For q = 3 we prove R(C_3k, Z_3) = 3k + 2 for all k ≥ 2. We also resolve R(W_3k, Z_3) = 3k + 1 for k ≥ 2.
What carries the argument
The insertion argument rooted in the Erdős-Ginzburg-Ziv theorem that produces the upper bound when combined with Pikhurko's result on R(C_2q, Z_q).
If this is right
- For every fixed odd q ≥ 3 and k ≥ 35q the exact value is R(C_qk, Z_q) = qk + q - 1.
- For q = 3 the exact value is R(C_3k, Z_3) = 3k + 2 for every k ≥ 2.
- The exact value is R(W_3k, Z_3) = 3k + 1 for every k ≥ 2.
- For even q ≥ 4 the upper and lower bounds differ by an additive term of order q/2 for large k.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- Improving the 35q² bound on the short-cycle case would reduce the minimal k for which the exact equality holds.
- The lower-bound labeling construction for odd q supplies an explicit Z_q-edge-labeling of K_{qk + q - 2} with no zero-sum C_qk.
- The insertion technique may apply directly to other graphs whose edge count is a multiple of q.
Load-bearing premise
The insertion argument rooted in the Erdős-Ginzburg-Ziv theorem produces the stated upper bound when combined with Pikhurko's result on R(C_2q, Z_q).
What would settle it
A Z_q edge-labeling of K_{qk + q - 1} with no zero-sum copy of C_qk, for some odd q ≥ 3 and k ≥ 35q, would disprove the upper bound and thus the claimed exact value.
read the original abstract
For an integer $q\ge 2$ and a graph $F$ with $q\mid e(F)$, let $R(F,\Z_q)$ be the least integer $n$ such that every edge-labeling $w\colon E(K_n)\to \Z_q$ contains a copy of $F$ whose edge-label sum is zero in $\Z_q$. Write $C_{qk}$ for the cycle on $qk$ vertices. We prove that $R(C_{qk},\Z_q)\le \max\{R(C_{2q},\Z_q),qk+q-1\}$ via an insertion argument rooted in the classic Erd\H{o}s-Ginzburg-Ziv theorem. Combined with Pikhurko's result, we obtain $R(C_{qk},\Z_q)\le \max\{35q^2,qk+q-1\}$ for every $q\ge 3$. We also show that $R(C_{qk},\Z_q)\ge qk+q-1$ for odd $q\ge 3$. Hence, for every fixed odd $q\ge 3$ and every $k\ge 35q$, we obtain the exact value $R(C_{qk},\Z_q)=qk+q-1$. For even $q\ge 4$, the same method gives $qk+\frac q2-1\le R(C_{qk},\Z_q)\le \max\{35q^2,qk+q-1\}$, leaving an additive gap of order $q/2$ when $k$ is large. Moreover, for the case $q=3$, we prove that \(R(C_{3k}, \mathbb{Z}_3) = 3k + 2\) for all \(k \ge 2\). Extending our techniques beyond cycles, we also resolve the zero-sum Ramsey number for wheel graphs \(W_m = C_m + K_1\), proving that \(R(W_{3k}, \mathbb{Z}_3) = 3k + 1\) for all \(k \ge 2\).
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript defines the zero-sum Ramsey number R(F, Z_q) as the minimal n such that every Z_q-edge-labeling of K_n contains a zero-sum copy of F (with q dividing e(F)). It proves via an EGZ-based insertion argument that R(C_{qk}, Z_q) ≤ max{R(C_{2q}, Z_q), qk + q - 1}. Combined with Pikhurko's bound this yields R(C_{qk}, Z_q) ≤ max{35q², qk + q - 1}. For odd q ≥ 3 a matching lower bound R(C_{qk}, Z_q) ≥ qk + q - 1 is shown, giving exact equality when k ≥ 35q. Separate exact determinations are obtained for q = 3: R(C_{3k}, Z_3) = 3k + 2 (k ≥ 2) and R(W_{3k}, Z_3) = 3k + 1 (k ≥ 2). For even q a gap of order q/2 remains.
Significance. If the proofs are correct, the paper supplies exact values for an infinite family of zero-sum Ramsey numbers, a rare achievement. The EGZ insertion technique is clean and reusable; the exact results for q = 3 and for wheels are concrete contributions to the literature. The honest treatment of the even-q gap is also a strength.
minor comments (4)
- [Abstract] Abstract, line 4: the phrase 'via an insertion argument rooted in the classic Erdős-Ginzburg-Ziv theorem' is accurate but would benefit from a one-sentence pointer to the precise place (e.g., Lemma 2.3) where the insertion step is formalized.
- [Introduction] §1, after Definition 1.1: the notation Z_q is introduced without explicitly stating that it is the additive group of integers modulo q; a single parenthetical clarification would remove any ambiguity for readers outside the area.
- [Theorem 1.3] Theorem 1.3 (q = 3 case): the proof sketch mentions 'a separate argument' for the exact value 3k + 2; adding a short outline of why the lower-bound construction fails to produce a zero-sum triangle for n = 3k + 1 would improve readability.
- [Section 4] Figure 1 (if present) or the wheel construction in §4: the labeling diagram for the wheel lower bound could be enlarged or given explicit vertex/edge labels to make the zero-sum avoidance immediate.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the positive assessment of our manuscript, the recognition of its significance, and the recommendation for minor revision. We appreciate the comments on the EGZ-based insertion argument and the honest treatment of the even-q case.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity identified
full rationale
The derivation establishes the upper bound R(C_{qk}, Z_q) ≤ max{R(C_{2q}, Z_q), qk + q - 1} via an insertion argument that invokes the external Erdős-Ginzburg-Ziv theorem, then invokes Pikhurko's independent prior result on the small-cycle case to close the exact value for odd q and sufficiently large k. The matching lower bound for odd q is constructed separately, and the exact determinations for q=3 and for wheels are obtained by extending the same techniques without reducing to fitted parameters or self-referential definitions. All load-bearing steps rest on externally verifiable theorems rather than any of the enumerated circularity patterns.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (2)
- standard math Erdős-Ginzburg-Ziv theorem
- domain assumption Pikhurko's upper bound for R(C_2q, Z_q)
Lean theorems connected to this paper
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We prove that R(C_qk,Z_q)≤max{R(C_2q,Z_q),qk+q−1} via an insertion argument rooted in the classic Erdős-Ginzburg-Ziv theorem.
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IndisputableMonolith/Cost/FunctionalEquation.leanwashburn_uniqueness_aczel unclear?
unclearRelation between the paper passage and the cited Recognition theorem.
R(C_qk,Z_q)≥qk+q−1 for odd q (cut labeling with weights q/d on (A,B) edges)
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