Local maximum of inducibility profiles
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The pith
The inducibility profile of K_{2,2,1} has at least two local maxima in (0,1).
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
The supremum of the induced density of K_{2,2,1} inside n-vertex graphs whose edge density approaches a fixed value e is a function I_{K_{2,2,1}}(e) that possesses at least two local maxima inside the open interval (0,1). The same function is evaluated exactly when e equals (k-1)/k for every integer k at least 3. For every t belonging to the arithmetic progression 5,8,11 up to 74 the inducibility profile of K_t^- likewise admits a non-global local maximum.
What carries the argument
Flag-algebra semidefinite programs that certify upper bounds on induced densities sufficiently tight to locate interior local maxima, together with a symmetrization reduction that converts the problem for K_t^- into an application of the clique-density theorem.
If this is right
- The inducibility profile of at least one graph is not a unimodal function of edge density.
- Exact values of I_{K_{2,2,1}}(e) are known at every rational point of the form (k-1)/k.
- The inducibility profiles of K_t^- for t=5,8,...,74 each contain at least one local maximum that is not the global maximum.
- Flag-algebra computations can be used to decide the existence of interior local maxima for small fixed graphs.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- One could attempt to determine the precise number of local maxima or the locations of all critical points for the K_{2,2,1} profile by refining the same computational method.
- Analogous local-maximum phenomena may appear for other small 5-vertex graphs whose inducibility profiles have not yet been examined at this level of precision.
- If the same computational certification technique succeeds for additional graphs, then non-unimodal inducibility profiles may turn out to be common rather than exceptional.
Load-bearing premise
The numerical bounds obtained from the semidefinite programs are tight enough to certify that the profile actually turns downward after each claimed interior peak rather than continuing to increase.
What would settle it
An explicit infinite family of graphs whose edge density lies near one of the claimed local-maximum points and whose induced K_{2,2,1} density strictly exceeds the value attained at a nearby density point would falsify the local-maximum claim.
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For a graph $G$ and $e\in [0,1]$, denote by $I_G(e)$ the supremum of induced density of $G$ over $n$-vertex graphs with edge density $e$ as $n$ goes to infinity. Liu, Mubayi and Reiher asked if there exists a graph $G$, where $I_G(e)$ has a non-trivial local maximum. In this paper, we answer this problem affirmatively. We first show that $I_{K_{2,2,1}}(e)$ has at least two local maxima in $(0,1)$. Part of this proof is using flag algebras. Additionally, we determine $I_{K_{2,2,1}}(e)$, when $e=(k-1)/k$ for every integer $k\ge 3.$ We also prove that $I_{K_t^-}(e)$ has a non-global local maximum for every $t\in\{5,8,11,\ldots,$ $74\}$. The proof combines a symmetrization theorem of Schelp and Thomason with Reiher's clique density theorem.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper answers an open question of Liu, Mubayi and Reiher by showing that the inducibility profile I_{K_{2,2,1}}(e) has at least two local maxima in (0,1), with part of the argument relying on flag-algebra semidefinite programs. It also determines the exact value of I_{K_{2,2,1}}(e) at the points e=(k-1)/k for every integer k≥3, and proves that I_{K_t^-}(e) has a non-global local maximum for every t in the set {5,8,11,…,74} by combining the Schelp-Thomason symmetrization theorem with Reiher's clique density theorem.
Significance. If the flag-algebra computations are rigorous and the SDP upper bounds are tight enough to certify interior local maxima (rather than merely boundary behavior), the result would be significant: it supplies the first explicit example of a graph whose inducibility profile has multiple non-trivial local maxima, thereby resolving the question posed by Liu-Mubayi-Reiher. The exact determinations at rational edge densities and the additional family of examples for K_t^- further strengthen the contribution, especially given the reliance on two well-established external theorems.
major comments (1)
- [Abstract / flag-algebra proof of local maxima for K_{2,2,1}] Abstract and flag-algebra section: the claim that I_{K_{2,2,1}}(e) has at least two local maxima in (0,1) rests on flag-algebra SDPs producing upper bounds sufficiently tight to detect interior peaks. The manuscript must supply the flag-set size, the numerical precision achieved, explicit error bounds on the SDP value, and an argument showing that any gap between the relaxation and the true inducibility cannot erase the detected local maxima (i.e., that the profile cannot be monotone or boundary-only within the reported precision).
minor comments (2)
- [Introduction] Notation: the definition of I_G(e) should explicitly state whether the supremum is taken over all graphs or only over graphs with edge density exactly e (or in a neighborhood).
- [Introduction] The exact determinations at e=(k-1)/k are stated without a reference to the section containing the proof; a forward pointer would improve readability.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the careful and constructive report. We address the major comment below.
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Referee: [Abstract / flag-algebra proof of local maxima for K_{2,2,1}] Abstract and flag-algebra section: the claim that I_{K_{2,2,1}}(e) has at least two local maxima in (0,1) rests on flag-algebra SDPs producing upper bounds sufficiently tight to detect interior peaks. The manuscript must supply the flag-set size, the numerical precision achieved, explicit error bounds on the SDP value, and an argument showing that any gap between the relaxation and the true inducibility cannot erase the detected local maxima (i.e., that the profile cannot be monotone or boundary-only within the reported precision).
Authors: We agree that the manuscript requires additional technical details to rigorously certify the interior local maxima via the flag-algebra SDPs. In the revised version we will expand the relevant section (and add an appendix if needed) to report: the flag-set size used, the numerical precision and solver tolerances achieved, explicit error bounds on the SDP values, and a self-contained argument showing that the gap between the SDP relaxation and the true inducibility is smaller than the separation between the detected interior peaks and the boundary values. This will establish that the profile cannot be monotone or boundary-only within the reported precision. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity; derivation relies on external theorems and standard flag-algebra method
full rationale
The paper's central claims rest on (1) flag-algebra semidefinite programs, a method introduced by Razborov and external to the authors, and (2) direct invocation of Reiher's clique-density theorem and the Schelp-Thomason symmetrization theorem, both by non-overlapping authors. No self-citation is load-bearing, no fitted parameter is relabeled as a prediction, and no ansatz or uniqueness result is smuggled via prior work by the same team. The derivation chain therefore remains self-contained against external benchmarks.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (1)
- standard math The limit defining I_G(e) as n tends to infinity exists.
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