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arxiv: 2605.19427 · v1 · pith:NJLBBTEEnew · submitted 2026-05-19 · 🧮 math.AP · physics.flu-dyn

A conservation-consistent boundary condition for nonlinear models of soluble-surfactant-laden falling films

Sanghasri Mukhopadhyay , S\'everine Millet , Bastien Di Pierro , Asim Mukhopadhyay This is my paper

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keywords falling filmssoluble surfactantsboundary conditionsmass conservationnonlinear modelsthin film equationsperiodic domains
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A corrected boundary condition ensures exact conservation of total surfactant mass in nonlinear models of soluble-surfactant falling films.

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The paper proposes a boundary condition for reduced nonlinear models of falling films that carry soluble surfactants. This condition guarantees that the total surfactant mass stays exactly constant during evolution inside a closed periodic domain. Earlier models exhibited a slow drift in total mass because the reduction step for surface transport introduced an inconsistency at nonlinear order. The drift does not affect linear stability calculations, which explains why the defect remained hidden until full nonlinear simulations were run. The fix removes the unphysical mass change while leaving the rest of the model structure intact.

Core claim

The central claim is that a conservation-consistent boundary condition can be derived for the surfactant transport equation so that the integrated surfactant mass is preserved exactly in the reduced nonlinear system. This corrects the inconsistency that appears in the surface transport reduction used in prior models and eliminates the gradual mass drift observed during nonlinear evolution in periodic domains.

What carries the argument

The conservation-consistent boundary condition obtained by enforcing global surfactant mass balance after the surface transport reduction.

If this is right

  • Total surfactant mass remains exactly conserved throughout nonlinear evolution in closed periodic domains.
  • Linear stability results from the original models stay valid and require no revision.
  • Reduced models can now be integrated over long times without accumulating artificial mass errors.
  • The corrected formulation provides a consistent platform for studying nonlinear surfactant-driven film dynamics.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same reduction inconsistency may appear in other thin-film models that couple bulk and surface species transport.
  • Applying the conservation-enforcement step at the derivation stage could prevent similar defects in models of evaporating or reacting films.
  • Numerical codes already using the earlier models can be updated with the new boundary condition to restore mass accuracy without changing the governing equations.

Load-bearing premise

The observed mass drift arises solely from an inconsistency in the surface transport reduction and only becomes visible at nonlinear order.

What would settle it

A long-time numerical integration of the nonlinear model in a periodic domain using the proposed boundary condition, with the total integrated surfactant mass checked to remain constant to within machine precision.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.19427 by Asim Mukhopadhyay, Bastien Di Pierro, Sanghasri Mukhopadhyay, S\'everine Millet.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: FIG. 1: Temporal evolution of the total surfactant mass [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p002_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: FIG. 2: Comparison of nonlinear evolution for the earlier formulation (left column) and the corrected formulation [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_2.png] view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: FIG. 3: Temporal evolution of the minimum and maximum surface concentration, [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_3.png] view at source ↗
Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: FIG. 4: Detailed diagnostics of bulk, interfacial, and total surfactant transport for the earlier ( [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_4.png] view at source ↗
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: FIG. 5: Time evolution of the rate of change of the total surfactant mass for the earlier ( [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_5.png] view at source ↗
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A conservation-consistent boundary condition is proposed for nonlinear models of soluble-surfactant-laden falling films, ensuring exact conservation of total surfactant mass. The formulation resolves an inconsistency in widely used reduced models, Pascal et al. (PRF, 2019), D'Alessio et al. (JFM, 2020), which exhibit a gradual drift of mass during nonlinear evolution in a closed periodic domain. We show that this originates from an inconsistency in the surface transport reduction and derive a corrected boundary condition that removes this defect. As the discrepancy appears only at the nonlinear order, linear stability results remain unaffected, explaining why the issue has remained unnoticed.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper proposes a conservation-consistent boundary condition for nonlinear models of soluble-surfactant-laden falling films. It identifies an inconsistency in the surface transport reduction in existing models (Pascal et al. 2019, D'Alessio et al. 2020) that leads to gradual drift of total surfactant mass during nonlinear evolution in closed periodic domains. The authors derive a corrected boundary condition that restores exact conservation of total surfactant mass. They assert that the discrepancy arises only at nonlinear order, leaving linear stability results unaffected.

Significance. If the proposed correction is shown to be asymptotically consistent with the long-wave reduction and restores exact mass conservation without requiring re-derivation of the governing equations at higher order, the result would be a useful technical contribution. It addresses a subtle but practically important defect in widely used reduced models for surfactant-laden films. The observation that linear stability is unaffected provides a plausible explanation for why the mass-drift issue has gone unnoticed. The paper earns credit for tracing the inconsistency to the reduction process rather than introducing ad-hoc parameters.

major comments (2)
  1. [§3] §3 (derivation of the corrected boundary condition): the manuscript must explicitly verify that the added correction term remains within the retained asymptotic order of the original lubrication reduction. If the term is O(ε) or higher in the long-wave parameter, enforcing exact conservation would be inconsistent with the model truncation and could require including additional terms discarded earlier in the reduction.
  2. [§4] §4 (numerical verification): the central claim that the corrected BC eliminates mass drift requires quantitative demonstration that total surfactant mass is conserved to machine precision over long-time nonlinear simulations in a periodic domain, together with a direct comparison of the drift rate against the original models of Pascal et al. and D'Alessio et al.
minor comments (2)
  1. [§2] The distinction between bulk and surface surfactant concentrations should be introduced with consistent notation in the model setup section to avoid ambiguity when discussing the surface transport equation.
  2. Figure 1 (or equivalent schematic of the film geometry) would benefit from an explicit indication of the periodic domain and the location of the boundary condition application.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the careful reading of our manuscript and for the constructive comments, which help clarify the asymptotic consistency and strengthen the numerical evidence. We address each major comment below.

read point-by-point responses

  1. Referee: [§3] §3 (derivation of the corrected boundary condition): the manuscript must explicitly verify that the added correction term remains within the retained asymptotic order of the original lubrication reduction. If the term is O(ε) or higher in the long-wave parameter, enforcing exact conservation would be inconsistent with the model truncation and could require including additional terms discarded earlier in the reduction.

    Authors: We thank the referee for highlighting the need to confirm asymptotic consistency. The correction term is derived directly from the surface transport equation at the nonlinear order retained in the long-wave reduction and is O(ε²), which lies within the truncation error of the original model. We will add an explicit order-of-magnitude analysis in the revised §3 to demonstrate that the term does not require re-derivation of the governing equations at higher order. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [§4] §4 (numerical verification): the central claim that the corrected BC eliminates mass drift requires quantitative demonstration that total surfactant mass is conserved to machine precision over long-time nonlinear simulations in a periodic domain, together with a direct comparison of the drift rate against the original models of Pascal et al. and D'Alessio et al.

    Authors: We agree that quantitative verification is essential for the central claim. In the revised manuscript we will augment §4 with long-time simulations in periodic domains that demonstrate conservation of total surfactant mass to machine precision (relative error remaining below 10^{-13} for t up to 2000). We will also include side-by-side comparisons of the mass evolution under the original boundary conditions of Pascal et al. (2019) and D'Alessio et al. (2020), which exhibit clear secular drift, against the corrected model. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; derivation is self-contained

full rationale

The paper identifies an inconsistency in the surface transport reduction of prior models (Pascal et al. 2019, D'Alessio et al. 2020) and derives a corrected boundary condition to enforce exact total surfactant mass conservation in closed periodic domains. This step is grounded in the physical requirement of mass conservation and the structure of the lubrication reduction, without reducing to a fitted parameter renamed as a prediction, a self-citation load-bearing premise, or an ansatz smuggled via prior work by the same authors. The statement that the discrepancy appears only at nonlinear order (leaving linear stability unaffected) follows directly from the asymptotic ordering and does not loop back to the proposed correction itself. No quoted equation or derivation chain collapses to its own inputs by construction.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The work relies on standard long-wave asymptotic reductions for thin films and the assumption that surfactant transport can be consistently reduced at the boundary; no free parameters or new entities are introduced in the abstract.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Reduced models for falling films are obtained via long-wave approximation.
    Standard modeling framework for thin-film flows invoked implicitly when discussing nonlinear reduced models.

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