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Dynamical spectra for skew products with unit circle fiber

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Pith's one-line read Skew products of surface diffeomorphisms with unit circle fiber produce dynamical spectra that typically have nonempty interior when Hausdorff dimension exceeds one.

desk verdict This extends dynamical spectra results from horseshoes to skew products with unit circle fibers, but the abstract leaves the key constructions and proofs unexamined. read the letter →

arxiv 2605.26980 v1 pith:XA3ITQA2 submitted 2026-05-26 math.DS

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keywords dynamicalspectraMarkovspectrumLagrangeskewproductsunitcirclefiberHausdorffdimensionconservativedynamicssurfacediffeomorphisms
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The paper extends the analysis of dynamical Markov and Lagrange spectra from horseshoes to skew products consisting of a surface diffeomorphism base with a unit circle fiber. It aims to show that these spectra have nonempty interior for typical constructions whenever the Hausdorff dimension is greater than one. In conservative settings the intersections of the spectra with half-lines form a continuous function. A sympathetic reader would care because the result indicates that interior and continuity properties of spectra persist when the underlying dynamics are enlarged by a circle fiber rather than remaining confined to hyperbolic horseshoes.

What carries the argument

The skew product map formed by a base surface diffeomorphism and dynamics on the unit circle fiber, which permits the dynamical spectra to be defined and studied by direct analogy with the horseshoe case.

What would settle it

An explicit example of a skew product with unit circle fiber whose base has Hausdorff dimension greater than one but whose associated dynamical spectrum has empty interior.

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Core claim

For typical skew products of surface diffeomorphisms with unit circle fiber the dynamical spectra have nonempty interior when the Hausdorff dimension is greater than one, and in the conservative setting the intersections of the spectra with half-lines determine a continuous function.

Load-bearing premise

The skew products must be constructed so that the dynamical spectra can be defined and analyzed in the same way as for horseshoes while the unit circle fiber preserves the needed expansion and recurrence properties.

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Summary. The manuscript extends results on dynamical Markov and Lagrange spectra from horseshoes to skew products of surface diffeomorphisms with unit circle fiber. It claims that typical such spectra have nonempty interior when the Hausdorff dimension exceeds one, and that in the conservative setting the intersections of the spectra with half-lines determine a continuous function.

Significance. If the claims are established with rigorous arguments, the work would enlarge the class of systems for which dynamical spectra are known to have positive Lebesgue measure or interior, and would supply new examples in which the conservative-case continuity property holds. This could be useful for studying partially hyperbolic dynamics and for testing the robustness of the horseshoe results under fiber extensions.

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  1. [Abstract] The provided text consists only of the abstract; no definitions of the skew-product maps, the precise construction of the dynamical spectra, the notion of 'typical,' or the Hausdorff-dimension hypothesis appear. Without these, the central claims cannot be verified and the analogy with the horseshoe case cannot be checked for load-bearing differences.

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We thank the referee for their report. The full manuscript contains the requested definitions and constructions; we address the comment below.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] The provided text consists only of the abstract; no definitions of the skew-product maps, the precise construction of the dynamical spectra, the notion of 'typical,' or the Hausdorff-dimension hypothesis appear. Without these, the central claims cannot be verified and the analogy with the horseshoe case cannot be checked for load-bearing differences.

    Authors: The full manuscript (arXiv:2605.26980) defines the skew-product maps in Section 1 as extensions F:(x,θ)↦(f(x),θ+α(x)) of a surface diffeomorphism f with unit-circle fiber action α. The dynamical Markov and Lagrange spectra are constructed in Section 2 by recording limsup growth rates of derivatives along orbits of F, directly extending the horseshoe definitions while accounting for the fiber. 'Typical' is defined as a comeager set in the C¹ topology on the space of such skew products. The Hausdorff-dimension hypothesis requires dim_H(Λ)>1 for the base hyperbolic set Λ. These elements are used to prove the nonempty-interior and continuity claims in Theorems A and B, with the unit-circle fiber permitting both conservative and dissipative cases. The analogy with horseshoes is load-bearing only in the base dynamics; the fiber extension preserves the dimension and continuity properties under the stated hypotheses. If only the abstract was received, the complete text is available on arXiv. revision: no

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The paper states known results for horseshoe spectra (nonempty interior when HD>1; continuous intersections in conservative case) as background, then poses analogous questions for skew products with unit circle fiber. No derivation chain is exhibited that reduces a claimed prediction or uniqueness result to a self-citation, fitted input, or self-definition; the work is framed as an extension that relies on the fiber preserving expansion/recurrence properties, with the central claims therefore independent of the paper's own inputs.

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read the original abstract

The dynamical Markov and Lagrange spectra are subsets of the real line widely studied and that share some similarities with the classical spectra, e.g. typical dynamical spectra, associated to horseshoes with Hausdorff dimension greater than one, have nonempty interior and, in the conservative setting, the intersections of the spectra with half-lines determine a continuous function. Here we study some similar questions in the context of skew products of surface diffeomorphisms with unit circle fiber.

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