(P,φ)-Tamari and higher torsion lattices of type A
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A general (P,φ)-Tamari construction produces lattices that are join-semidistributive, join-extremal and left modular, with higher torsion class lattices of type A algebras as special cases.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
The (P,φ)-Tamari construction associates to each poset P and each chain φ in P a lattice that is join-semidistributive, join-extremal and left modular. For a specific choice of P and φ this lattice coincides with the lattice of higher torsion classes of the higher Auslander algebra of type A. The corresponding lattice for the higher Nakayama algebra of type A is a lattice quotient of the Auslander lattice. When P equals φ is a chain the construction recovers the Tamari lattice.
What carries the argument
The (P,φ)-Tamari construction that builds a lattice from an arbitrary poset P and a chain φ inside P.
If this is right
- The higher torsion class lattices of higher Auslander algebras of type A are join-semidistributive, join-extremal and left modular.
- The higher torsion class lattices of higher Nakayama algebras of type A are lattice quotients of the Auslander versions.
- All (P,φ)-Tamari lattices, including the classical Tamari lattice, satisfy join-semidistributivity, join-extremality and left modularity.
- Lattice quotients of (P,φ)-Tamari lattices inherit the join-semidistributive and left modular properties.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- Other families of algebras whose torsion class lattices admit a similar poset-and-chain description may inherit the same three lattice properties without separate proofs.
- Left modularity supplies a canonical way to label covering relations that could be used to compute canonical join representations in these torsion lattices.
- The quotient relation between Auslander and Nakayama versions suggests a systematic way to obtain further quotients by varying the chain φ inside a fixed P.
Load-bearing premise
The combinatorial descriptions of higher torsion classes given by August et al. match exactly the elements of the (P,φ)-Tamari poset for the particular P and φ chosen in the paper.
What would settle it
An explicit higher torsion class in a higher Auslander algebra of type A that cannot be matched to any element of the corresponding (P,φ)-Tamari lattice under the map defined in the paper.
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read the original abstract
The goal of this work is to study the combinatorics of the lattices of higher torsion classes of the higher Auslander and Nakayama algebras of type \textbf{A}. Combinatorial descriptions of these higher torsion classes were recently obtained by August \textit{et al.} (2025), and it was observed that the lattices that they form are not semidistributive. We study in some depth these lattices, proving in particular that the lattices of higher torsion classes of the higher Auslander algebras of type \textbf{A} are join-semidistributive, join-extremal and left modular. We also prove that the lattices of higher torsion classes of the higher Nakayama algebras of type \textbf{A} are lattice quotients of them. In order to prove these results, we define a general construction that produces a lattice, which we call $(P,\phi)$-Tamari, for any choice of poset $P$ and chain $\phi$ in $P$. We prove the lattice results for this general construction. When $P=\phi$ is a chain, we recover the Tamari lattice, whereas the lattices of higher torsion classes that we study are obtained for another very particular choice.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper introduces the (P,φ)-Tamari lattice construction for an arbitrary poset P and chain φ in P. It proves that all such lattices are join-semidistributive, join-extremal, and left modular. The classical Tamari lattice arises when P=φ is a chain. For a specific choice of P and φ, the construction yields the lattices of higher torsion classes of higher Auslander algebras of type A (which are therefore join-semidistributive, join-extremal, and left modular); the corresponding Nakayama-algebra torsion lattices are shown to be lattice quotients of these. The proofs rely on the general construction together with the combinatorial descriptions of the torsion classes given by August et al. (2025).
Significance. If the specific (P,φ) identification is correct, the work supplies a uniform combinatorial explanation for the lattice-theoretic properties of these higher torsion lattices and extends the known good behavior of Tamari lattices to a broader family. The general construction itself may be of independent interest in poset combinatorics.
major comments (1)
- [Section defining the specific (P,φ) for Auslander/Nakayama algebras] The load-bearing step is the assertion that a particular choice of poset P and chain φ inside it exactly reproduces the poset of higher torsion classes described by August et al. (2025). The manuscript must supply an explicit order-preserving bijection (including verification that covering relations match) rather than relying on cardinality agreement or informal correspondence; without this, the transfer of the proved join-semidistributivity, join-extremality, and left-modularity properties does not go through.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their careful reading of the manuscript and for highlighting the need to make the identification between the specific (P, φ) construction and the higher torsion class posets fully rigorous. We address the major comment below and will incorporate the requested strengthening in the revision.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: [Section defining the specific (P,φ) for Auslander/Nakayama algebras] The load-bearing step is the assertion that a particular choice of poset P and chain φ inside it exactly reproduces the poset of higher torsion classes described by August et al. (2025). The manuscript must supply an explicit order-preserving bijection (including verification that covering relations match) rather than relying on cardinality agreement or informal correspondence; without this, the transfer of the proved join-semidistributivity, join-extremality, and left-modularity properties does not go through.
Authors: We agree that the current presentation relies on the combinatorial descriptions in August et al. (2025) together with the explicit definition of our particular (P, φ) without a fully spelled-out order-preserving bijection and covering-relation check. This is a substantive gap for the transfer of the lattice-theoretic properties. In the revised manuscript we will add a dedicated subsection that constructs an explicit bijection between the elements of the (P, φ)-Tamari lattice for our chosen P and φ and the higher torsion classes, verifies that it is order-preserving in both directions, and confirms that covering relations are preserved (using the covering relations already described combinatorially by August et al.). This will establish a lattice isomorphism and thereby justify the application of the general theorems. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity; general (P,φ)-Tamari construction derives lattice properties independently of the torsion-class application
full rationale
The paper defines a new general (P,φ)-Tamari lattice for arbitrary poset P and chain φ, proves join-semidistributive, join-extremal and left-modular properties directly for this construction, and recovers the classical Tamari lattice when P=φ is a chain. The claim that higher torsion lattices of higher Auslander/Nakayama algebras arise as instances for a particular choice of P and φ is an identification step that relies on the external combinatorial descriptions of August et al. (2025). Because the lattice-property proofs are carried out at the general level and do not reduce to or presuppose the specific identification, no step is self-definitional, no fitted input is relabeled as a prediction, and no load-bearing premise collapses to a self-citation chain. The derivation is therefore self-contained against the external benchmark of the cited combinatorial descriptions.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (1)
- domain assumption The combinatorial descriptions of higher torsion classes of the higher Auslander and Nakayama algebras of type A obtained by August et al. (2025) are correct.
invented entities (1)
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(P,φ)-Tamari lattice
no independent evidence
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