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On Dense Orbit Transversality for Endomorphisms of Abelian Varieties

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Pith's one-line read For endomorphisms of any abelian variety over a number field, the sets of representatives of grand orbits are Zariski dense.

desk verdict Lu extends the Pasten-Silverman dense representatives result from geometrically simple abelian varieties to the general case using structure theory. read the letter →

arxiv 2606.29057 v1 pith:T6ZXIMYB submitted 2026-06-27 math.NT math.AGmath.DS

classification math.NTmath.AGmath.DS
keywords abelianvarietiesendomorphismsZariskidensitygrandorbitsnumberfieldsorbittransversality
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The reading

The paper establishes that if an endomorphism f of an abelian variety X over a number field K has at least one point with a Zariski-dense orbit, then the sets of representatives for the grand (f,K)-orbits are Zariski dense in X. This removes the geometric simplicity hypothesis used in earlier work and shows the property holds for arbitrary abelian varieties. A reader would care because the result broadens the class of varieties where orbit representatives are guaranteed to be dense, unifying the arithmetic distribution behavior across all such X.

What carries the argument

Dense orbit transversality, the condition that allows selection of orbit representatives whose intersections with subvarieties remain dense.

What would settle it

An explicit abelian variety X, endomorphism f, and proper subvariety Y such that no grand-orbit representative meets Y in a dense set.

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Core claim

Assuming there exists a point in X(K) whose f-orbit is Zariski dense in X (up to replacing K by a finite extension), the sets of representatives of grand (f,K)-orbits are Zariski dense for every abelian variety X.

Load-bearing premise

There exists a point in X(K) whose f-orbit is Zariski dense in X, possibly after a finite extension of K.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper extends the Pasten-Silverman result on Zariski density of sets of representatives for grand (f,K)-orbits from geometrically simple abelian varieties to the general case of all abelian varieties X/K. The extension holds under the explicit hypothesis that some point of X(K) has f-orbit Zariski dense in X (after finite extension of K), and the argument proceeds by reducing to the simple case via the structure theory of abelian varieties.

Significance. If correct, the result removes the geometric simplicity hypothesis while preserving the density conclusion for all abelian varieties, thereby completing the picture for this class of varieties in the study of grand-orbit representatives. The manuscript builds directly on prior literature without introducing new free parameters or ad-hoc axioms.

minor comments (2)
  1. The abstract and introduction should explicitly state the precise statement of the main theorem (including any dependence on the endomorphism ring or isogeny decomposition) rather than describing it only in prose.
  2. Clarify in §2 or the preliminaries whether the reduction step invokes the Poincaré reducibility theorem directly or requires an additional finite extension of K beyond the one already allowed in the hypothesis.

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We thank the referee for the positive assessment of the manuscript and the recommendation of minor revision. The report accurately summarizes the extension of the Pasten-Silverman result to arbitrary abelian varieties under the stated dense-orbit hypothesis, via reduction to the geometrically simple case.

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No significant circularity; derivation builds on external prior work

full rationale

The paper extends the Pasten-Silverman density result for grand-orbit representatives from geometrically simple abelian varieties to the general case. The argument relies on the structure theory of abelian varieties and the explicit hypothesis that some K-point has Zariski-dense f-orbit (after finite extension). No self-citations are load-bearing, no parameters are fitted and renamed as predictions, and no ansatz or uniqueness claim reduces to the authors' own prior definitions. The central claim remains independent of the inputs and is not forced by construction.

Assumptions & free parameters 0 free parameters · 1 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The central claim rests on the domain assumption of a Zariski-dense orbit point and the geometric properties of abelian varieties; no free parameters or invented entities appear in the abstract.

assumptions (1)
  • domain assumption Existence of a point in X(K) whose f-orbit is Zariski dense in X
    Explicitly required in the abstract for the density statement to hold.

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Pith. "Pith review of On Dense Orbit Transversality for Endomorphisms of Abelian Varieties." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/T6ZXIMYB

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abstract

Let $X/K$ be a smooth projective variety defined over a number field and $f:X\to X$ be a morphism defined over $K$. Assuming there exists a point in $X(K)$ whose $f$-orbit is Zariski dense in $X$ and up to replacing $K$ by a finite extension, Pasten and Silverman studied the distribution of grand $(f,K)$-orbits and proved that many sets of representatives of grand $(f,K)$-orbits on various classes of varieties are Zariski dense. In particular, they showed that if $X$ is a geometrically simple abelian variety, then all such sets of representatives are Zariski dense. We demonstrate the existence of a dense set of representatives for maps on all abelian varieties.

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