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Signatures of photospheric convection throughout the solar atmosphere: the EVE Sun-as-a-star mHz continuum

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Pith's one-line read Photospheric convection imprints a steep Doppler continuum through the solar atmosphere, with no Kolmogorov signature.

desk verdict Clean first full-disk EUV Doppler continuum above 10 mHz and a model-independent Kolmogorov null; height reading is secondary and already flagged. read the letter →

arxiv 2607.05108 v1 pith:ZXKZG5B2 submitted 2026-07-06 astro-ph.SR

Hugh Hudson , Anne-Marie Broomhall , Lyndsay Fletcher , David Graham , Sargam M. Mulay , Chris Osborne , Kirsty Williamson , Graham Woan This is my paper
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keywords solaratmosphereEUVspectroscopyDopplerpowerspectraphotosphericconvectionHarveycontinuumnon-thermalvelocitiesSun-as-a-starturbulence
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This paper uses full-disk EUV spectra from the Solar Dynamics Observatory to show that convective motions at the solar surface drive measurable Doppler shifts all the way from the chromosphere into the low corona. By stacking hundreds of three-hour time series of line centroids, the authors obtain clean power spectra out to 50 mHz. Those spectra contain the familiar Harvey-like continuum peaking near 5 mHz (the granulation scale) plus a steeper high-frequency tail; coronal lines carry far less of the 5 mHz power than cooler lines. Nowhere in the 26 lines examined does the continuum flatten into the f^{-5/3} shape expected for Kolmogorov turbulence. The integrated non-thermal velocities are about 15 km/s, matching classical microturbulence widths. The result is the first clear Sun-as-a-star detection of EUV Doppler variability above 10 mHz and a practical demonstration that disk-integrated EUV spectroscopy can track how turbulent energy is transported through the solar atmosphere.

What carries the argument

Incoherent averaging of hundreds of daily three-hour Doppler time series (centroid wavelengths of Gaussian-fitted emission lines) yields high signal-to-noise power spectra whose continuum shape is described by generalized Harvey functions; band-limited integrals of those spectra then quantify the height-dependent attenuation of granulation-scale power.

What would settle it

A quantitative Sun-as-a-star synthesis that folds realistic contribution functions and optical-depth effects into the same line set should recover (or fail to recover) the observed systematic drop of 5 mHz Doppler power with formation temperature.

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Core claim

Incoherently summed Doppler power spectra of 26 EUV emission lines spanning 35–104 nm reveal a broadband continuum with two Harvey-like components, one of which continues as a steep power-law tail to the 50 mHz Nyquist frequency. Coronal lines show substantially less amplitude in the 5 mHz granulation component than chromospheric/transition-region lines. No line exhibits the flat Kolmogorov continuum (Doppler variance proportional to f^{-5/3}). The total non-thermal RMS velocities above 0.1 mHz are of order 15 km/s, consistent with classical coronal microturbulence estimates. These are the first clear Sun-as-a-star detections of EUV Doppler variability above ~10 mHz.

Load-bearing premise

The only height proxy used is the ionization-equilibrium formation temperature of each line; optical-depth weighting, active-region structure, and true contribution functions are left unmodeled.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper presents Sun-as-a-star Doppler power spectra constructed from EVE/MEGS-B Level-2 Gaussian line centroids for 26 EUV lines (35–104 nm), using incoherent averages of ~200 clean 3-hour chunks from 2011. The spectra show a broadband continuum with Harvey-like form, a granulation-scale excess near 5 mHz, and a steep high-frequency tail extending to the 50 mHz Nyquist frequency without a white-noise floor in most lines. Coronal lines exhibit weaker power in the ~5 mHz component than chromospheric/transition-region lines (most clearly in O and Mg ionization sequences). No Kolmogorov f^{-5/3} continuum is detected; an upper limit W_turb/W_tot ≲ 10^{-5} is obtained by normalizing such a component to the n-band (45–50 mHz). Integrated non-thermal RMS velocities above 0.1 mHz are ~15 km/s, consistent with classical microturbulence widths. The work claims the first clear detection of Sun-as-a-star EUV Doppler variability above ~10 mHz.

Significance. If the continuum detection, Kolmogorov null, and ~15 km/s RMS hold, the paper supplies a new global observational constraint on how photospheric convective power is redistributed through the chromosphere, transition region, and low corona. The data reduction is transparent (public EVE Level-2, ephemeris-corrected centroids, empirical chunk scatter, Table 2 band powers), the Kolmogorov limit is falsifiable and model-light once the continuum shape is accepted, and the result is directly relevant to stellar EUV spectroscopy, non-thermal line widths, and wave/turbulence energy transport. The high-frequency reach (to 50 mHz) and multi-line temperature coverage are genuine strengths not available from TSI or photospheric Doppler alone.

major comments (2)
  1. [§2.6, Fig. 8, Abstract] §2.6 and Fig. 8: The Kolmogorov upper limit is obtained by normalizing an f^{-5/3} component to the n-band (45–50 mHz) after subtracting that band as white noise, yielding W_turb/W_tot ≲ 10^{-5}. The same section notes that high-frequency power generally has a solar origin (line-to-line differences) and that the spectra flatten near Nyquist, possibly from jitter or residual solar power. If the n-band still contains solar continuum, the normalization procedure and the quoted limit need explicit justification or a more conservative bound (e.g., using only the excess above the steepest observed Harvey tail). The abstract’s phrasing “flat continuum component with Doppler variance ⟨v^{2}⟩ ∝ f^{-5/3}” is also imprecise relative to the usual PSD ~ f^{-5/3} statement used in the body.
  2. [§2.4, §2.7, Fig. 10, Abstract, §4] §2.4, §2.7, Fig. 10, and Abstract/Conclusions: The statement that coronal lines have “substantially less Doppler amplitude in the 5 mHz Harvey component” is clear for the O and Mg sequences but does not hold cleanly across the full 26-line set (Fig. 10). The paper correctly flags the absence of quantitative contribution functions, optical-depth weighting, and active-region structure, yet the abstract and conclusions still present the temperature/height attenuation as a primary result. Given the G(T) high-temperature tails illustrated for the Ne/Mg pair (Fig. 13) and the acknowledged blend/active-region complications, this interpretation should be more carefully caveated as suggestive for selected sequences rather than established for the atmosphere as a whole.
minor comments (6)
  1. [Fig. 6] Fig. 6 caption: “Niii 91.1 nm” is a typographical error; the line is 99.1 nm / 991.51 Å elsewhere.
  2. [§2.4, Fig. 5] The paper states that direct multi-component Harvey fits are not performed (§2.4), yet shows one illustrative fit (Fig. 5) and repeatedly refers to “two Harvey-like components.” A short quantitative fit (or explicit statement that band integrals replace formal fits) would reduce ambiguity.
  3. [Table 1, Abstract, Table 2] Table 1 lists 25 lines in the text but the abstract and Table 2 refer to 26; reconcile the count and ensure Fe XVI / Si XII entries are consistently included or excluded.
  4. [Eq. (1), §2.6] Equation (1) uses both A f^{-n} and the Harvey term with index α; the text later quotes α ≈ 4–4.5 without reporting formal fit uncertainties or the role of the free power-law term A. Clarify which parameters are fixed versus free in the illustrative fits.
  5. [Figs. 5–9, Table 2] Several figure panels and the appendix table would benefit from explicit units on the power-spectral density axes (already stated as (m/s)^2/Hz in the text) and a brief note on whether the FFT is one-sided or two-sided.
  6. [Abstract, §2] Minor wording: “incoherently summed” is used for power-spectrum averaging; “incoherent average of periodograms” would be more standard and avoid confusion with coherent stacking of time series.

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No circularity: purely observational power spectra from EVE centroids compared to external Harvey/Kolmogorov forms

full rationale

The paper's load-bearing claims (detection of the mHz Doppler continuum above ~10 mHz, absence of a Kolmogorov f^{-5/3} component, and band-integrated RMS velocities of order 15 km/s) are obtained by direct processing of public EVE Level-2 spectra: single-Gaussian centroid fits on 10 s samples, residual timeseries after ephemeris correction, incoherent averaging of ~200 clean 3-hour chunks, and numerical integration of the resulting power spectra over fixed bands (Table 2, Figs. 5–9). The Harvey form (Eq. 1) is used only as a descriptive template taken from the literature (Harvey 1985); the authors explicitly state they do not perform formal multi-parameter fits. The Kolmogorov upper limit is obtained by normalizing an external f^{-5/3} spectrum to the observed n-band floor after white-noise subtraction (Fig. 8), yielding a model-independent ratio W_turb/W_tot ≲ 10^{-5}. The ~15 km/s figure is simply the square root of the measured integrated power (>0.1 mHz) under an isotropy assumption; consistency with prior microturbulence numbers is a post-hoc comparison, not an input. No parameter is fitted and then re-presented as a prediction, no uniqueness theorem is imported, and no self-citation carries the central result. The analysis is therefore self-contained against external benchmarks.

Assumptions & free parameters 3 free parameters · 4 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The central observational claims rest on standard solar-physics assumptions (CHIANTI formation temperatures, Harvey continuum form, public EVE Level-2 products) plus a small set of analysis choices (band edges, single-Gaussian fits, white-noise subtraction at 45-50 mHz). No new physical entities are postulated; free parameters are limited to illustrative Harvey indices and the arbitrary but conventional frequency bands used for integration.

free parameters (3)
  • Harvey high-frequency index α = ≈4–4.5
    Illustrative values α≈4–4.5 are chosen by eye to match the observed steep tail (Section 2.6, Fig. 5); not a formal fit but used to argue against Kolmogorov.
  • Frequency band edges (0.1–1, 1–5, 5–20, 45–50 mHz) = fixed by authors
    Conventional partitions used to isolate supergranulation, p-mode, granulation and noise bands; the exact edges affect the reported RMS ratios but are not fitted.
  • n-band white-noise floor subtraction = measured per line
    Power in 45–50 mHz is subtracted before placing the Kolmogorov upper limit; assumes that residual is purely instrumental.
assumptions (4)
  • domain assumption CHIANTI ionization-equilibrium peak temperatures are adequate proxies for relative formation height
    Used throughout Sections 2–3 and Figs. 7, 9–11 to interpret amplitude trends; authors note optical-depth and contribution-function complications are ignored.
  • domain assumption Single-Gaussian plus quadratic background yields unbiased line centroids even for mildly blended lines
    Applied to all 26 lines (Section 2.2–2.3); blends are flagged but not corrected.
  • domain assumption High-frequency continuum power is of solar origin because its amplitude varies systematically with formation temperature
    Stated in Section 2.6 to rule out pure instrumental jitter or photon noise.
  • domain assumption The generalized Harvey function (flat + power-law roll-over) correctly describes convective continuum shapes
    Adopted from Harvey (1985) and later photometric work; used as the interpretive template for the 5 mHz bulge.

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Convectively driven motions in the solar photosphere can generate broadband Doppler variability across the chromosphere, transition region and corona. Here we investigate this variability using "Sun-as-a-Star" observations from the Extreme Ultraviolet Variability Experiment (EVE) aboard the Solar Dynamics Observatory, constructing high signal-to-noise Doppler power spectra from incoherently summed 3-hour sequences of the centroid wavelengths of emission lines that span wavelengths 35-104 nm. The spectra reveal a broad power-spectral continuum with two Harvey-like components, one of which extends to the Nyquist frequency at 50 mHz with a steep power-law tail. Lines formed in the corona, as compared with those of the chromosphere/transition region, have substantially less Doppler amplitude in the 5 mHz Harvey component associated with granulation-scale convection. Based on the observed continuum, there is no evidence (in any of the 26 lines studied) for Kolmogorov turbulence, which predicts a flat continuum component with Doppler variance <v^2> ~ f^{-5/3) as a function of frequency f. The total inferred non-thermal RMS velocities (>0.1 mHz) are of order 15 km/s, consistent with previous coronal "microturbulence" estimates from non-thermal line widths. These observations provide the first clear detection of Sun-as-a-star EUV Doppler variability above about 10 mHz and demonstrate the potential of full-disk EUV spectroscopy to probe turbulent energy transport throughout the solar atmosphere.

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Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2607.05108 by the authors.

Figure 1
Figure 1. HMI 𝑉𝐿𝑂𝑆 incoherent-sum power spectra: left pair, for the 232 valid three-hour data chunks available in January 2011; right pair, for the 8 valid two-day data chunks in January 2011. Note that the longer timeseries, with 𝑓𝑛𝑦 = 6 𝜇Hz, resolves individual peaks in the p-mode spectrum. searches, but not so relevant for the mHz frequency range. Fig￾ure 1 shows power spectra for line-of-sight velocity 𝑉𝐿𝑂𝑆, obtained from… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. The normalised contribution function G(T) functions for each of a selected line set. Note that this reflects their temperature contribution functions misleadingly, since it does not take optical depth into account. The very prominent C iii line at 97.7 nm is the heavy black curve near the center, which reveals an extension to coronal temperatures even though this would be regarded as mainly a transition-region line.… view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Lyman-𝛽 flux (upper) and apparent wavelength (lower), expressed as Doppler redshift residuals against median values, for each 10 s EVE spectrum in February 2011. The flux variations show solar variability on active-region timescales but the noise fluctuations conceal the small Sun/SDO distance modulation. variation of line flux reflects the satellite orbital motion projected on the line of sight to the Sun, and the … view at source ↗
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Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Example showing a 6-parameter Gaussian fit (dotted line) applied to the very strong and clean C iii 97.716 nm line recorded 1-Jan-2011 at 00:50:10 UT; the fit returns the wavelength of the Gaussian peak, its ampli￾tude, and uncertainty estimates for all parameters. Thi…
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: In black, the average power spectra for a total of 231 daily 3-hr sequences of C iii 97.7 nm data in 2011, for intensity (left) and Doppler redshift (right). The red histograms show N iii 99.1 nm. The G(T) functions for these strong lines (see [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures…
Figure 8
Figure 8. Figure 8: Doppler spectrum for N iii 991.51 Å, with a Kolmogorov spectrum normalized to the N-band power at 45-50 mHz shown as a blue dashed line. forms at chromospheric temperatures ( [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_8.png]
Figure 7
Figure 7. Figure 7: Ratio of p-band Doppler power (1-5 mHz) to c-band power (convec￾tive continuum, 5-20 mHz) for various ionisation states of oxygen, as sorted by the CHIANTI log(T) [K] values. craft pointing jitter, for example, or photon statistics. An underlying Kolmogorov spectrum of…
Figure 9
Figure 9. Figure 9: The Doppler spectra for three of the EVE ionization states each of oxygen and magnesium, with both sequences showing decreasing Doppler amplitude with temperature of line formation; note also the convergence to similar values a the lowest frequencies. tional picture. T…
Figure 10
Figure 10. Figure 10: RMS Doppler amplitudes in km/s for the all lines studied, plotted against the CHIANTI log(T) [K] at G(T) maximum. The left panel shows total amplitudes above 0.1 mHz, and the right panel above 1 mHz as band-limited RMS velocities. The uncertainty ranges shown here and…
Figure 13
Figure 13. Figure 13: The contribution functions G(T) for the FIP spectral line pair Mg vii and Ne viii, with the latter being lithium-like and therefore having broader contributions. Kolmogorov equilibrium, although such a spectrum may exist under￾neath the Harvey-function contributions. …
Figure 12
Figure 12. Figure 12: Power spectra for a FIP comparison line pair, with high-FIP (Ne viii) in blue and low-FIP (Mg vii) in red. Doppler power levels has an order-of-magnitude difference for these two lines. Also note that the spectra for the Mg line have a more significant excess below 1 …

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