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Two problems on booksize and triangular edges in Nosal graphs
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Pith's one-line read For m-edge graphs with no isolated vertices, spectral radius ≥ √m forces a book of size ρ/3 and ρ triangular edges.
desk verdict Settles two open problems on Nosal graphs with optimal constants; proofs check out, with a few terse spots that need polishing. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The proof centers on the Perron vector x of G: after normalizing its largest entry to 1 and picking a vertex u* where it is attained, it expresses ρ² - m as a sum of excess contributions from edges inside N(u*) minus deficit terms f(w) for outside vertices. A local count shows that any 'good' edge uv forces at least R(d_U(u), d_U(v), c_uv) triangular edges, and the tight case is analyzed through the subgraph H of triangular edges and the matrix M = ρI - A(H) with a nonnegative inverse obtained by the Neumann series. The final step is a vector comparison showing that if τ(G) < ρ, the deficit strictly exceeds the excess, contradicting ρ ≥ √m.
What would settle it
Construct an m-edge graph with no isolated vertices, ρ ≥ √m, and not complete bipartite, with bk(G) < ρ/3 or τ(G) < ρ. More specifically, for Theorem 1.11, search for a graph where equality holds in the local count of Lemma 4.3 but some outside vertex's neighborhood in V* contains a triangular edge of H; such a graph would refute Claim 1 and invalidate the vector comparison.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The central discovery is a pair of sharp bounds: for every m-edge graph G with no isolated vertices, ρ(G) ≥ √m, and G not complete bipartite, the maximum book size (the largest number of triangles sharing a common edge) satisfies bk(G) ≥ ρ(G)/3, and the number of triangular edges satisfies τ(G) ≥ ρ(G). Because ρ(G) ≥ √m, these are exactly the optimal constants 1/3 and 1 in the conjectured lower bounds for Nosal graphs (ρ(G) > √m). The paper also constructs examples showing that neither constant can be improved.
Load-bearing premise
The proof of Theorem 1.11 rests on Claim 1, which asserts that when equality holds in the local triangular-edge count, the triangular-edge subgraph is induced and every outside vertex sees an independent set inside it; if that structural rigidity misses an equality case, the vector comparison that produces the contradiction loses its foundation.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- Every Nosal graph has a book of size greater than √m/3 and more than √m triangular edges.
- The constants 1/3 and 1 are best possible: the paper's examples show no larger factor can hold uniformly.
- The stronger bounds are stated in terms of ρ(G) rather than √m, so the result is a genuine spectral supersaturation theorem, not just a corollary of the √m threshold.
- For t ≥ 4, the same supersaturation phenomenon extends to edges contained in K_t, with a linear lower bound (Theorem 5.4).
Reading between the lines
- The localization method around a Perron-maximal vertex could be adapted to find optimal constants for generalized books B_{s,k}, since the same excess-vs-deficit structure may appear there.
- The structurally rigid tight case (Claim 1) suggests a general principle: in spectral supersaturation, equality in local counts forces strong induced-structure constraints; probing this rigidity may unify other tight cases.
- A direct test would be to check whether the assumption 'no isolated vertices' can be relaxed: the theorems likely hold for the non-isolated core of a graph, with isolated vertices appended without effect.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper studies m-edge graphs G with no isolated vertices, spectral radius ρ(G) ≥ √m, and G not isomorphic to a complete bipartite graph. Theorem 1.10 proves bk(G) ≥ ρ(G)/3, and Theorem 1.11 proves τ(G) ≥ ρ(G). These imply, for Nosal graphs, bk(G) > √m/3 and τ(G) > √m, resolving Problem 1.6 of Li–Liu–Zhang and Conjecture 1.3 of Li–Feng–Peng. The proofs use Perron-vector weighting, double counting over triangles (Section 3), and a localization around a maximum eigenvector entry with a tight-case structural analysis and a vector comparison argument (Section 4).
Significance. The paper settles two open problems in spectral extremal graph theory and gives essentially optimal constants up to o(√m) slack. The bounds are stated in the stronger form involving ρ(G) rather than only √m, and this stronger form is essential to the proofs. The derivations are self-contained and direct: they use only Perron–Frobenius, standard eigenvalue identities, and careful counting, with no fitted parameters and no circularity. The tight-case analysis in Theorem 1.11, especially Claim 1, is delicate but valid after filling in the compressed details. The optimality examples in Section 5 are also useful, modulo a minor numerical typo noted below.
minor comments (6)
- [§5, Further work] The displayed equality τ(H) = 2t+1 = √e(H) + t is false for all t ≥ 1. Indeed e(H)=4t^2+3t+1 gives √e(H) = 2t + 3/4 + O(1/t), so τ(H) = √e(H) + 1/4 + o(1). The asymptotic optimality of the constant 1 still follows from τ(H)/√m → 1, but the stated equality should be corrected.
- [§4, Subcase 2.2, definition of p_z] There are missing overlines in the definition of p_z and in several equations of Claim 2. The intended definition is p_{v,z} = d_{V_z}(v) + 1/2 d_{\overline{V_z}}(v) for v ∈ \overline{V_z}; with the printed notation the identity j^T p_z = ρ|V_z| + e(H) does not hold. Please correct the notation throughout Claim 2.
- [§4, Claim 1] The proof of Claim 1 is very compressed. In particular, the identification of V* and the explicit description of E(H) are asserted with "Clearly"; the equality analysis in (8) that rules out additional triangular edges (e.g., edges within N_U(y') or within N_W(y)∩N_W(y')) should be spelled out. The claim is valid, but this is a delicate structural step that needs a fuller justification for the reader.
- [§4, Case 1] The step "Thus x_v = 1/2 for any v ∈ U_1" is terse. It should be explained: if some x_v > 1/2, then a B-neighbor u of v would have β_u ≥ x_v > 1/2, forcing u ∈ U_1 \ U_2 and contradicting U_2 = U_1. The argument is sound but not immediate.
- [§4, after Claim 2] The renormalization of the Perron vector from max=1 to sum=1 should be flagged explicitly. Earlier sets B, U_1, U_2 were defined using the max=1 normalization; the final argument uses a different scaling. Since the graph-theoretic objects V*, V_z, p_z do not depend on this scaling, the proof is valid, but the transition should be clarified to avoid confusion.
- [§3, Lemma 3.2] The sentence "Then G is a complete bipartite graph by the definition of z_e" is terse. A brief justification (fix an edge uv, partition V into N(u) and N(v), and use z_e=0 to force all cross edges) would improve readability.
Circularity Check
No circularity: main theorems are derived directly from Perron-vector eigenvalue equations and standard external results.
full rationale
Theorems 1.10 and 1.11 are proved by weighted double counting over triangles and the Perron eigenvector. The only invoked results are standard facts (Perron–Frobenius, the spectral bound ρ(H)≤√(2e(H)), and Kruskal–Katona), none of which assumes the conclusions. In Theorem 1.10, the proof uses bk(G)≥|C_e| and derives (ρ−3bk(G))Σt_e≤0 with Σt_e>0, so the conclusion bk(G)≥ρ(G)/3 is forced by the inequalities rather than assumed. In Theorem 1.11, the delicate Claim 1 is derived from equality in the local triangular-edge counting inequality, not from the target statement; the later vector comparison is a contradiction argument based on ρ(H)<ρ, which follows from τ(G)<ρ and the standard spectral bound. No fitted parameters are renamed as predictions, no uniqueness theorem is imported from the authors' prior work, and no load-bearing self-citation appears. The derivation chain is self-contained apart from standard, externally checkable lemmas.
Assumptions & free parameters
assumptions (3)
- standard math Perron–Frobenius theorem: an irreducible non-negative symmetric matrix has a positive eigenvector for its spectral radius.
- standard math Spectral radius bound ρ(H) ≤ √(2e(H)) for any graph H.
- standard math Kruskal–Katona theorem
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Pith. "Pith review of Two problems on booksize and triangular edges in Nosal graphs." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/CW5LVPLZ
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abstract
A graph $G$ with $m$ edges is said to be a Nosal graph if $\rho(G)>\sqrt{m}$. For a graph $G$, we write $bk(G)$ for its maximum book size and $\tau(G)$ for the number of edges contained in triangles. Li, Liu and Zhang [J. Combin. Theory Ser. B 179 (2026) 219--249] proved that every $m$-edge Nosal graph satisfies $bk(G)> \frac{1}{24}\sqrt{m}$ and $\tau(G) > \frac{1}{12}\sqrt{m}$. Recently, two results on the booksize constant are proved: $\frac{1}{9}$ by Zhai, Li and Lou [arXiv:2601.10163v2], and $\frac{1}{4}$ by Chen, Li and Tang [arXiv:2607.16746v1]. In this paper, we establish the following result: Every $m$-edge graph $G$ with no isolated vertices and $\rho(G)\geq \sqrt{m}$ that is not isomorphic to any complete bipartite graph satisfies $bk(G)\geq\frac{\rho(G)}{3}$ and $\tau(G)\geq \rho(G)$. As direct consequences, we answer a question of Li, Liu and Zhang [J. Combin. Theory Ser. B 179 (2026) 219--249] and confirm a conjecture of Li, Feng and Peng [J. Graph Theory 110 (4) (2025) 408--425].
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