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Unexpected limitation of tropical cyclone genesis by subsurface tropical central-north Pacific during El Ni\~no

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Pith's one-line read During El Niño, a shoaling 26°C layer in the central-north Pacific limits tropical cyclone genesis, counteracting warm sea surface temperatures.

desk verdict A solid observational finding (negative SST–D26 correlation in the central-north Pacific during ENSO) buried under a headline counterfactual that is really just a derivative of an empirical index fitted to the same TC data. read the letter →

arxiv 2608.03799 v1 pith:5FJNBDZF submitted 2026-08-04 physics.ao-ph

Cong Gao , Lei Zhou , Chunzai Wang , I.-I. Lin , Raghu Murtugudde This is my paper · ORCID
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The reading

This paper takes on a longstanding puzzle: El Niño pushes the western Pacific warm pool eastward, yet the total number of tropical cyclones in the western North Pacific barely changes between El Niño and La Niña. The authors argue that the missing increase is explained by the ocean subsurface, not the atmosphere. During El Niño, anomalous winds over the tropical central-north Pacific drive Ekman suction that shoals the 26°C isotherm, cutting upper-ocean heat content even where sea surface temperatures are warm. Using a genesis potential index that includes the 26°C isotherm depth, they decompose the El Niño–La Niña difference in TC genesis and find that the subsurface shoaling offsets part of the SST-driven increase. A reader should care because SST-only indices would overstate how many cyclones an El Niño-like warming pattern would produce.

What carries the argument

The load-bearing object is GPIocean, a genesis potential index for western North Pacific TCs built from four variables: 1000-hPa absolute vorticity, mean upper-mixed-layer temperature, net surface longwave radiation, and D26, the depth of the 26°C isotherm. The paper's decomposition (Eq. 2) varies one variable at a time while holding the others at climatology, following the method of ref. 19, to attribute the El Niño minus La Niña change in GPI to each factor. The physical mechanism that carries the argument is Ekman pumping: the anomalous cyclonic wind stress curl during El Niño drives upward Ekman velocity (Eq. 3), shoaling D26 in the central-north Pacific even as SST warms. D26 is the sta

What would settle it

Look at the 5°N–20°N, 160°E–170°W box during future El Niño events with in-situ Argo profiles and observed genesis records: if TC genesis rises by roughly the SST-predicted 27% while D26 shoals, or if D26 deepens when wind stress curl is cyclonic, the subsurface limitation claim would fail. A complementary check: recompute the El Niño–La Niña TC difference with a genesis index that omits D26; the result should show a larger, not equal, difference.

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Core claim

The central claim is that in the tropical central-north Pacific (roughly 5°N–20°N, 160°E–170°W), sea surface temperature and the depth of the 26°C isotherm are anticorrelated during ENSO, contrary to the canonical positive correlation elsewhere. The mechanism is a cyclonic wind stress curl anomaly over the region during El Niño, which produces Ekman suction and shoals D26 while westerly wind anomalies simultaneously warm the surface. The shoaling reduces upper-ocean heat content enough to counteract the otherwise favorable SSTs. Quantitatively, the GPIocean index yields 0.15 more TCs per month in this box during El Niño relative to La Niña; if D26 were held at climatology, the increase would

Load-bearing premise

The argument assumes that the D26 term in GPIocean, whose coefficient was fitted to the same observed TC counts the paper explains, measures a causal physical influence of subsurface heat on TC genesis; if it is only a statistical match, the 0.15 versus 0.19 counterfactual restates the fit rather than proving a mechanism.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • SST-only genesis potential indices overestimate the El Niño increase in central-north Pacific TC genesis, because they miss the negative D26 anomaly.
  • The sign of the SST–D26 correlation is not uniform: in the central-north Pacific it is negative (−0.40), opposite to the positive correlation in the northwestern and eastern Pacific.
  • Projections of TC activity under an El Niño-like warming pattern must include subsurface heat content changes, not just surface temperature, to avoid overestimating frequency.
  • The counteracting effect persists even when El Niño is split into central-Pacific and eastern-Pacific types.
  • TCs that do form in the central Pacific during El Niño travel farther before landfall, so the same number of storms may pose a different threat.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If the mechanism is correct, seasonal forecasts of typhoon counts in the western North Pacific should skillfully use upper-ocean heat content (D26 or similar) as a predictor, not only SST.
  • A testable extension: in climate-model runs under greenhouse warming, the El Niño-like mean-state change should produce a similar negative SST–D26 correlation in the central-north Pacific; models that fail to reproduce the Ekman shoaling would over-project TC frequency.
  • The same surface-subsurface cancellation may be at work in other basins where warming is accompanied by changes in wind stress curl, so the effect may not be Pacific-specific.
  • Because central-north-Pacific-origin storms have more ocean to cross, a modest reduction in count could coincide with an increase in accumulated cyclone energy—consistent with the paper's note that intense typhoons may still increase.
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Referee Report

3 major / 6 minor

Summary. The paper documents that during El Niño, in the tropical central-north Pacific (5°N–20°N, 160°E–170°W), the 26°C isotherm depth (D26) shoals while sea surface temperature warms, producing a negative correlation between mixed-layer temperature (T̃) and D26. It attributes the shoaling to anomalous Ekman suction from cyclonic wind-stress curl associated with a weakened North Pacific Subtropical High. Using the empirical GPIocean index and a partial-derivative decomposition, it concludes that D26 shoaling offsets the favorable SST effect, such that GPI-inferred TC genesis increases by 0.15 TCs/month rather than 0.19 TCs/month if D26 were climatological. The qualitative pattern is verified across GODAS, SODA, ERSST, BOA_Argo, and HighResMIP.

Significance. If the causal interpretation holds, the result is significant: it identifies a subsurface mechanism that counteracts the conventional SST-based expectation of enhanced TC genesis during El Niño, with implications for projecting TC activity under El Niño-like warming. The paper's strengths include multi-dataset consistency, explicit significance testing of the T̃–D26 anti-correlation, and robustness checks with alternative GPIs and HighResMIP. However, the quantitative counterfactual is only as strong as the empirical GPI, and the causal language in the abstract and Results goes beyond what the statistical decomposition can support.

major comments (3)
  1. [Results, Eq. (2) and counterfactual] The central quantitative claim—0.19 vs 0.15 TCs per month—is obtained by holding D26 at climatology in GPIocean (Eq. 1). Because GPIocean's coefficients were fitted to the same JTWC counts used to define the ENSO TC differences, this partial-derivative exercise is a property of the fitted surface rather than an independent physical counterfactual. The problem is not the empirical nature of GPI per se, but that D26 is treated as an isolated channel: Fig. 5 shows the same wind-stress-curl anomalies that force ΔD26 also directly affect η1000 and F, and vertical wind shear was tested but dropped, leaving D26 potentially collinear with omitted atmospheric drivers. Please either (a) reframe the 0.19/0.15 numbers as a diagnostic decomposition of GPIocean (e.g., 'the D26 term reduces the GPI-inferred increase by 0.04 TCs/month'), or (b) add a causal check, e.g., partial correlations controlling
  2. [Results (0.15 vs 0.19 per month)] The values 0.15 and 0.19 TCs per month are described as 'statistically significant at the 99% confidence level', but the Methods do not describe the test: null hypothesis, resampling scheme (block bootstrap? Monte Carlo?), handling of ENSO autocorrelation, or degrees of freedom. Without this, readers cannot assess whether the 0.15 and 0.19 differences are distinguishable from sampling noise, or whether the 0.04 difference between them is itself significant. Please add the exact procedure and report the uncertainty on the D26-induced increment.
  3. [Discussion, caveat paragraph] The Discussion appropriately states that 'the main results have a quantitative dependence on the form of GPI (Supplementary Figs. S7 and S8)'. This is consistent with the GPI being a statistical proxy, but the abstract and Results nevertheless present 0.19 vs 0.15 as a robust physical finding. The manuscript should ensure that the abstract and Results use diagnostic language (e.g., 'according to GPIocean') rather than implying a controlled counterfactual, so that the caveat is not confined to the Discussion.
minor comments (6)
  1. [Eq. (2)] The typesetting of Eq. (2) is corrupted in the received text: '4GPI' should be 'ΔGPI', and the multiplication and partial-derivative symbols are missing. Please ensure the equation is properly rendered.
  2. [Fig. 3 caption] The caption is garbled: 'T--', 'Niño and La Niña. d , where ΔD26...' appears truncated. Please rewrite the caption so that panels a–d are clearly described.
  3. [Notation, Eq. (1)] T̃ is defined in the text but the symbol is visually ambiguous in the equation; consider a clearer notation (e.g., T_ML) and define it at first use in Eq. (1).
  4. [Data/code availability] The code is 'available from the corresponding author on request'; for reproducibility, consider depositing analysis code in a permanent public repository (e.g., Zenodo) with a DOI.
  5. [Discussion, p. 4] There is a typo: 'devasting' should be 'devastating'.
  6. [Methods, GPI] The fitted values of p, f, g, h, i in Eq. (1) are not stated; please either list them in the Methods or explicitly refer to Table/equation in ref. 30 where they appear.

Circularity Check

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GPI-based D26 counterfactual is a redescription of a fitted index, though the paper also presents an independent mechanistic correlation.

  1. fitted input called prediction [Eq. (1); Results 'According to GPIocean...'; Methods 'TC genesis potential index (GPI)']
    "According to GPIocean, there are 0.15 more TCs (statistically significant at the 99% confidence level) generated per month in the tropical central-north Pacific (solid box in Fig. 3) during El Niño relative to La Niña. If D26 was held to its climatology, there would be 0.19 more TCs ... p is a coefficient which enables the best fit of GPIocean to observations."

    GPIocean (Eq. 1) is a regression-type index whose D26 exponent and scaling coefficient p were fitted to JTWC TC counts (ref. 30). The counterfactual '0.19 more TCs if D26 were climatology' is obtained by setting ΔD26=0 in the partial-derivative decomposition (Eq. 2); it is a mathematical consequence of the fitted D26 term, not an independent physical measurement or prediction. The El Niño–La Niña comparison uses the same JTWC best-track data used to fit the index, so the counterfactual restates the fit rather than testing the physical hypothesis. The observed negative Tbar–D26 correlation and Ekman mechanism are independent, but the quantitative 'limitation' of 0.04 TCs/month is a model counterfactual, not an out-of-sample prediction.

full rationale

The paper's descriptive result—negative D26 anomalies beneath positive SST anomalies in the tropical central-north Pacific during El Niño, driven by cyclonic wind-stress-curl-induced Ekman suction—is empirically self-contained and supported by GODAS, SODA, Argo, and reanalysis data. The circularity is confined to the quantitative attribution via GPIocean. Because GPIocean is a statistical proxy fitted to observed TC counts, its partial-derivative decomposition cannot independently establish that D26 limits TC genesis; the 0.19 vs 0.15 comparison is a direct consequence of the fitted D26 term. The authors acknowledge that GPI is empirical and test robustness with other GPI forms, which mitigates but does not eliminate the issue. Thus the central quantitative claim is partly circular, while the physical mechanism and correlations are independent. Score 6.

Assumptions & free parameters 5 free parameters · 6 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The paper introduces no new physical entities. Its central claim rests on an empirical index with five fitted coefficients, a standard linearization, and the standard Ekman/thermocline framework. The free parameters are inherited from prior work (ref. 30) and are not re-derived here, which is the main source of circularity. The domain assumptions are conventional in TC research but are not independently proven in this paper.

free parameters (5)
  • GPIocean multiplicative coefficient p = not given in this paper; fitted in Zhang et al. (2016) to JTWC data
    Eq. (1): 'p is a coefficient which enables the best fit of GPIocean to observations.' The counterfactual TC numbers depend on this scaling.
  • GPIocean exponent f on absolute vorticity = not given in this paper; fitted in Zhang et al. (2016)
    Eq. (1) includes f; it controls the sensitivity of GPIocean to vorticity and is fitted, not derived.
  • GPIocean exponent g on mixed-layer temperature = not given in this paper; fitted in Zhang et al. (2016)
    Eq. (1) includes g; the SST contribution in the decomposition is weighted by this fitted exponent.
  • GPIocean exponent h on net longwave radiation = not given in this paper; fitted in Zhang et al. (2016)
    Eq. (1) includes h; the radiative contribution is weighted by this fitted exponent.
  • GPIocean exponent i on 26°C isotherm depth = not given in this paper; fitted in Zhang et al. (2016)
    Eq. (1) includes i; the central claim that D26 limits TC genesis depends directly on the magnitude and sign of this fitted exponent.
assumptions (6)
  • domain assumption The empirical GPIocean formula (Eq. 1) is a valid representation of TC genesis, capturing the relevant physical constraints better than dynamical approaches.
    The methods state 'GPI is a statistical proxy ... not based on the dynamical and physical constraints, it captures the intrinsic dynamical constraints during TCs ... and often out-performs the dynamical approaches.' The entire decomposition relies on this.
  • standard math First-order Taylor decomposition: ΔGPI ≈ Σ(∂GPI/∂X)ΔX with partial derivatives evaluated at climatology.
    Eq. (2) and the following paragraph use this linearization for the finite El Niño minus La Niña anomalies. It requires anomalies to be small enough that higher-order terms are negligible.
  • standard math Ekman pumping from wind stress curl is the dominant mechanism controlling D26 anomalies in the tropical central-north Pacific.
    Eqs. (3)-(5) compute Ekman pumping velocity from wind stress; Fig. 5 supports this mechanism. This is standard oceanographic theory, not a new postulate.
  • domain assumption The depth of the 26°C isotherm (D26) is a valid proxy for upper-ocean heat content available to tropical cyclones.
    Used throughout as 'the heat content in the upper ocean, which is usually denoted with the depth of 26°C isotherm.' This is a common TC research convention.
  • domain assumption The El Niño versus La Niña contrast is an appropriate analog for the response of TC genesis to an El Niño-like global warming pattern.
    The discussion states 'ENSO impact on TC genesis provides an excellent analog and a cautionary tale for a potential cancellation of the dynamic and thermodynamic impacts.' This analogical leap is assumed, not demonstrated.
  • domain assumption Vertical wind shear is negligible for WNP TC genesis because it is generally weaker than 10 m/s.
    The text states vertical wind shear 'is generally weaker than 10 m s−1 over most of the northwestern Pacific Ocean and thus generally not large enough to prohibit TC genesis,' and it was not retained in GPIocean. It is a modeling choice, not an empirically verified condition for the central-north Pacific box.

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The vast tropical Pacific is home to the majority of tropical cyclones (TCs) which threaten the rim countries every year. The TC genesis is nourished by warm sea surface temperatures (SSTs). During El Ni\~no, the western Pacific warm pool extends eastward. However, the number of TCs does not increase significantly with the expanding warm pool and it remains comparable between El Ni\~no and La Ni\~na. Here, we show that the subsurface heat content change counteracts the favorable SSTs in the tropical central-north Pacific. Due to the anomalous positive wind stress curl, the 26 {\deg}C isotherm shoals during El Ni\~no over this region and the heat content diminishes in the tropical central-north Pacific, even though warm SST anomalies prevail. This negative correlation between SST and 26 {\deg}C isotherm depth anomalies is opposite to the positive correlation in the tropical eastern and western Pacific. This is critical because quantifying the dynamics of the subsurface ocean provides insight into TC genesis. The trend in TC genesis continues to be debated. Future projections must account for the net effect of the surface-subsurface dynamics on TCs, especially given the expected El Ni\~no-like pattern over the tropical Pacific under global warming.

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