Simple groups with narrow prime spectrum: Extended list
Pith reviewed 2026-05-19 21:52 UTC · model grok-4.3
The pith
All non-abelian finite simple groups whose order has largest prime divisor at most 10000 have been determined.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
We determine all non-abelian finite simple groups whose order has largest prime divisor not exceeding 10^4. This generalises a previous result by raising the bound on the largest prime and is carried out by systematic inspection of the orders of all groups supplied by the classification of finite simple groups.
What carries the argument
Systematic computational check of the prime factors of |G| for every non-abelian finite simple group G supplied by the classification theorem.
If this is right
- The groups satisfying the condition form a finite explicit list whose individual properties can now be studied in full.
- The same verification procedure applies directly to any larger prime bound once sufficient computational resources are available.
- Any future simple group whose order introduces a prime larger than 10000 automatically falls outside the narrow-spectrum class.
- The released code supplies a reusable tool for repeating the spectrum check after any revision of the order tables.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The method scales with improvements in group-order databases and could be rerun periodically to incorporate newly confirmed simple groups.
- The resulting list offers a concrete test bed for questions about the distribution of primes in the orders of simple groups.
- Similar spectrum restrictions might be examined for other algebraic objects once their classification or enumeration becomes available.
Load-bearing premise
The classification of finite simple groups is complete and the orders of all known simple groups are correctly tabulated in the literature or databases used by the program.
What would settle it
The appearance of a non-abelian finite simple group not on the current list whose order has no prime factor larger than 10000, or the discovery that the tabulated order of a known simple group has an incorrect largest prime factor.
read the original abstract
Generalising a previous result, we determine all non-abelian finite simple groups whose order has largest prime divisor not exceeding $10^4$. The computer code for this and similar calculations is made available.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript generalizes a prior result by determining all non-abelian finite simple groups whose order has largest prime divisor at most 10^4. The determination proceeds by exhaustive enumeration against the complete list of known simple groups furnished by the classification of finite simple groups together with their explicit order formulas; the authors supply the computer code used for the prime-factor checks and case-by-case parameter bounds.
Significance. If the enumeration is accurate, the paper supplies an extended, reproducible catalog of simple groups with narrow prime spectra. Such lists support work on the prime graph, spectrum recognition, and order-restricted properties of finite simple groups. The explicit release of the code is a clear strength, directly addressing reproducibility of the computational checks.
minor comments (2)
- The main theorem or result statement should include a concise summary or categorization of the groups that satisfy the bound (e.g., which sporadic groups appear and the ranges of parameters for groups of Lie type), rather than leaving the reader to consult only the code output.
- A brief comparison table or paragraph contrasting the new bound (10^4) with the previous result being generalized would help readers assess the extension achieved.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the positive summary of the manuscript, the recognition of its potential utility for work on prime graphs and spectrum recognition, and the recommendation of minor revision. We are pleased that the explicit release of the computer code is highlighted as a strength for reproducibility.
Circularity Check
Minor self-citation to prior enumeration; central computation independent of fitted inputs or self-definition
full rationale
The paper performs an exhaustive computational enumeration of non-abelian finite simple groups whose orders have largest prime factor ≤ 10^4, generalizing a previous result while relying on the external Classification of Finite Simple Groups together with tabulated order formulas and explicit parameter bounds from the literature. The author supplies the code for the prime-factor checks and case analysis, making the enumeration reproducible against external benchmarks without any quantity defined in terms of a fitted parameter from the present work or any reduction of the central claim to a self-citation chain. This is a standard honest use of prior results and does not meet the criteria for load-bearing circularity.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (1)
- domain assumption The classification of finite simple groups is complete and all orders are correctly known.
Lean theorems connected to this paper
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IndisputableMonolith/Foundation/RealityFromDistinction.leanreality_from_one_distinction unclear?
unclearRelation between the paper passage and the cited Recognition theorem.
Theorem 1. There are 15072 isomorphism types of finite non-abelian simple groups whose order has all prime divisors less than 10000.
What do these tags mean?
- matches
- The paper's claim is directly supported by a theorem in the formal canon.
- supports
- The theorem supports part of the paper's argument, but the paper may add assumptions or extra steps.
- extends
- The paper goes beyond the formal theorem; the theorem is a base layer rather than the whole result.
- uses
- The paper appears to rely on the theorem as machinery.
- contradicts
- The paper's claim conflicts with a theorem or certificate in the canon.
- unclear
- Pith found a possible connection, but the passage is too broad, indirect, or ambiguous to say the theorem truly supports the claim.
Reference graph
Works this paper leans on
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V. D. Mazurov, On the set of orders of elements of a finite group, Algebra and Logic,33, N 1 (1994), 49–55
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A. V. Zavarnitsine, Finite simple groups with narrow prime spectrum,Sib. Elect. Math. Reports,6(2009), 1–12. URL: http://semr.math.nsc.ru/v6/p1-12.pdf
work page 2009
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A. V. Zavarnitsine, GAP code accompanying this paper (2026). URL:https://github.com/zavandr/pi-simple The tables T able 1: Primes p∈ { 1000, . . . ,10000} with generic Sp 1009, 1013, 1019, 1033, 1039, 1097, 1103, 1151, 1163, 1187, 1193, 1213, 1217, 1249, 1259, 1279, 1307, 1319, 1361, 1381, 1409, 1439, 1453, 1481, 1523, 1559, 1579, 1627, 1667, 1669, 1721, ...
work page 2026
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