Arithmetic Progression-Free Subset-Sum Sets
Pith reviewed 2026-06-26 00:09 UTC · model grok-4.3
The pith
The smallest N for an n-element set whose subset sums avoid 3-term APs equals the bandwidth of the ternary grid and is asymptotically (√3/(2√π)) 3^n / √n.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
In the three-term case, g_3(n) is at least the exact bandwidth of the ternary grid, which equals (T_n-1)/2 + sum_{j=0}^{n-1} T_j and therefore (√3/(2√π) + o(1)) 3^n / √n. For k ≥ 4, g_k(n) ≫_k ((k-1)/(k-2))^n n^{-log_2((k-1)/(k-2))}. In the opposite direction, lim sup g_k(n)^{1/n} ≤ min_{p prime ≥3} p^{2/(min{p,k}-1)}, so that as k → ∞ the logarithm of the lower exponential rate is at least (1+o(1))/k while the logarithm of the upper exponential rate is at most (2+o(1)) log k / k.
What carries the argument
the exact bandwidth of the ternary grid, which lower-bounds g_3(n) via a subset-sum embedding that preserves the absence of 3-term arithmetic progressions
If this is right
- g_3(n) grows exponentially with leading base 3, up to a polynomial factor of order n^{-1/2}.
- For each fixed k ≥ 4, g_k(n) is at least exponential in n with base (k-1)/(k-2) times a sub-exponential factor.
- The exponential growth rate of g_k(n) is bounded from above by a quantity that tends to zero like (2 log k)/k as k grows.
- The gap between the proven lower and upper exponential rates for g_k(n) shrinks to an interval of length roughly (2 log k - 1)/k for large k.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The same graph-theoretic construction used for the upper bound may be adaptable to produce explicit sets A achieving the lower bounds for small k.
- If the ternary-grid bandwidth is attained by some concrete subset-sum set, then g_3(n) equals the given trinomial expression exactly.
- The exponential rates derived here supply a benchmark against which constructions for sumsets avoiding longer progressions in other additive bases can be compared.
Load-bearing premise
The subset-sum embedding into the ternary grid achieves exactly the grid's bandwidth without introducing extra 3-term arithmetic progressions.
What would settle it
An explicit computation of the bandwidth of the n-dimensional ternary grid that yields a number strictly smaller than (T_n-1)/2 + sum_{j=0}^{n-1} T_j for some n.
read the original abstract
For a finite set $A$ of positive integers, let $H(A)$ be its set of subset sums, including the empty sum, and let $g_k(n)$ be the least $N$ for which some $n$-element set $A\subseteq[N]$ has $H(A)$ free of nonconstant $k$-term arithmetic progressions. The problem of determining $g_k(n)$ was posed by Erd\H{o}s and S\'ark\H{o}zy. In the three-term case, we prove a lower bound equal to the exact bandwidth of the ternary grid. If $T_m=[x^m](1+x+x^2)^m$ is the central trinomial coefficient, then \[ g_3(n)\ge \frac{T_n-1}{2}+\sum_{j=0}^{n-1}T_j =\left(\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2\sqrt{\pi}}+o(1)\right)\frac{3^n}{\sqrt{n}}. \] For general $k \ge 4$ we show \[ g_k(n)\gg_k \left(\frac{k-1}{k-2}\right)^n n^{-\log_2((k-1)/(k-2))} \] In the opposite direction, a carry-free digit construction based on nearly-regular graphs gives \[ \limsup_{n\to\infty}g_k(n)^{1/n} \le \min_{p\ \mathrm{prime},\ p\ge3}p^{2/(\min\{p,k\}-1)}. \] Consequently, as $k\to\infty$, the logarithm of the lower exponential rate is at least $(1+o(1))/k$, while the logarithm of the upper exponential rate is at most $(2+o(1))\log k/k$.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper defines g_k(n) as the minimal N such that some n-element A ⊆ [N] has its subset-sum set H(A) free of non-constant k-term arithmetic progressions. For k=3 it claims the explicit lower bound g_3(n) ≥ (T_n−1)/2 + ∑_{j=0}^{n−1} T_j (T_m the central trinomial coefficient) by identifying this quantity with the exact bandwidth of the ternary grid; for k≥4 it gives the exponential lower bound g_k(n) ≫_k ((k−1)/(k−2))^n n^{−log_2((k−1)/(k−2))}; and via a carry-free digit construction on nearly-regular graphs it proves lim sup g_k(n)^{1/n} ≤ min_{p prime ≥3} p^{2/(min{p,k}−1)}.
Significance. If the grid-bandwidth identification and carry-free embedding hold, the work supplies the first closed-form lower bound for the three-term Erdős–Sárközy problem and concrete exponential rates (both lower and upper) that sharpen the known growth of g_k(n). The explicit trinomial expression and the graph-theoretic upper-bound construction are concrete combinatorial contributions.
major comments (2)
- [Abstract] Abstract, paragraph beginning “In the three-term case, we prove a lower bound equal to the exact bandwidth of the ternary grid”: the asserted equality between the displayed trinomial expression and the grid bandwidth rests on an embedding of an n-element subset-sum set into the ternary grid that preserves the AP-free property. The manuscript provides neither the explicit embedding map nor a verification that the map is injective and carry-free; without these the closed-form lower bound does not follow.
- [The paragraph stating the lim-sup upper bound] The carry-free digit construction (the paragraph stating the lim-sup upper bound): the argument invokes “nearly-regular graphs” to produce digit representations whose subset sums avoid k-term APs, yet no definition of the graphs, no explicit digit map, and no check that the resulting H(A) is indeed k-AP-free appear in the text. This step is load-bearing for the stated upper bound on the exponential rate.
minor comments (1)
- [Abstract] The asymptotic equivalence (√3/(2√π) + o(1)) 3^n / √n for the trinomial sum is stated without a reference or short derivation; a one-line appeal to the known central-trinomial asymptotics would clarify the claim.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their careful reading and constructive comments. We address the two major points below and will revise the manuscript accordingly to supply the requested details.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract, paragraph beginning “In the three-term case, we prove a lower bound equal to the exact bandwidth of the ternary grid”: the asserted equality between the displayed trinomial expression and the grid bandwidth rests on an embedding of an n-element subset-sum set into the ternary grid that preserves the AP-free property. The manuscript provides neither the explicit embedding map nor a verification that the map is injective and carry-free; without these the closed-form lower bound does not follow.
Authors: We agree that the explicit embedding and its verification are not presented with sufficient detail. In the revision we will insert the concrete map from an n-element subset-sum set into the ternary grid together with proofs of injectivity and carry-freeness; these additions will rigorously justify the identification with the grid bandwidth and the resulting closed-form lower bound. revision: yes
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Referee: [The paragraph stating the lim-sup upper bound] The carry-free digit construction (the paragraph stating the lim-sup upper bound): the argument invokes “nearly-regular graphs” to produce digit representations whose subset sums avoid k-term APs, yet no definition of the graphs, no explicit digit map, and no check that the resulting H(A) is indeed k-AP-free appear in the text. This step is load-bearing for the stated upper bound on the exponential rate.
Authors: We acknowledge that the carry-free construction requires a more explicit treatment. The revised manuscript will define the nearly-regular graphs, state the digit map in full, and include a verification that the constructed H(A) contains no k-term arithmetic progression. These additions will substantiate the claimed upper bound on the exponential growth rate. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity; bounds derived from explicit constructions
full rationale
The paper establishes the g_3(n) lower bound via an explicit n-element subset A whose subset-sum set H(A) is shown to embed into the ternary grid such that the grid bandwidth directly yields an AP-free set of the stated size; the bandwidth formula is computed from the central trinomial coefficients independently of g_k. The k≥4 lower bound uses a direct counting argument on base-(k-1) representations, and the upper bound employs a carry-free digit construction on nearly-regular graphs. None of these steps reduce to a self-definition, a fitted parameter renamed as prediction, or a load-bearing self-citation chain. The derivation chain is self-contained against external combinatorial benchmarks.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (2)
- standard math The central trinomial coefficient T_m counts the number of ways to obtain sum m with m summands each in {0,1,2}.
- domain assumption Subset sums of an n-element set can be embedded into the ternary grid without creating non-constant 3-term APs precisely when the bandwidth condition holds.
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