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Searches for Interstellar HCCSH and H$_2$CCS
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Pith's one-line read Neither sulfur-bearing isomer HCCSH nor H2CCS appears in any of 14 surveyed interstellar sources, ruling both out as major reservoirs of the missing interstellar sulfur.
desk verdict A careful null result that uses new lab spectroscopy to place tight upper limits on two sulfur-bearing isomers across 14 sources; the conclusion that they are not major sulfur reservoirs holds up. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The argument is carried by the combination of precise laboratory rest frequencies and a single-excitation-temperature column-density calculation. The new lab spectrum of HCCSH (a near-prolate asymmetric top with a strong $b$-type dipole of 0.80 D and a near-zero $a$-type dipole of 0.13 D) and the existing spectrum of H2CCS (a symmetric $C_{2v}$ molecule with a 1.01 D $a$-type dipole) fix the frequencies at which emission should appear. For each source, a simulated spectrum is generated using assumed values of excitation temperature, source size, line width, and background continuum temperature, and the rms noise at the strongest predicted line is converted into a $1\sigma$ upper limit on column density through the Hollis et al. formalism with optical-depth corrections and a partition function that includes the lowest five vibrational states. The assumption that each molecule's excitation conditions match a structurally similar, already-detected species — HN$^{13}$CO for HCCSH in Orion-KL, HNCO in Sgr B2(N), H$_2$CCO for H2CCS — is what connects the noise level to a physical abundance.
What would settle it
A confident spectral-line identification of either HCCSH or H2CCS, above the quoted upper limits, in any of the 14 surveyed sources would refute the central claim; the cleanest test is to observe HCCSH's strongest b-type transitions near 850 GHz and near 1.4 THz toward Orion-KL and Sgr B2(N) once laboratory frequencies cover those bands, since the paper's own strongest limits rest on extrapolated frequencies. Short of a detection, recomputing the limits with a substantially lower excitation temperature than the adopted 135–280 K for the warm sources would show whether the non-detection conclusion survives the largest modeling uncertainty.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The central result is a systematic set of non-detections. Using newly measured laboratory rest frequencies for HCCSH up to 660 GHz and previously available ones for H2CCS up to 230 GHz, the authors generated predicted spectra for each source and compared them with existing observations, adopting excitation temperatures and source sizes from structurally similar molecules such as HN$^{13}$CO, HNCO, and H$_2$CCO. No line from either species could be confidently identified in any of the 14 sources, and in some cases the strongest predicted lines themselves lie beyond the measured laboratory range and had to be extrapolated, notably the strongest HCCSH transitions near 850 GHz. The upper limits on column density translate to abundances relative to H$_2$ that are typically $10^{-9}$–$10^{-10}$, bracketed by looser limits near $10^{-7}$ in warm compact regions and tighter limits near $10^{-12}$ in cold clouds. The authors conclude that neither HCCSH nor H2CCS is a major reservoir of interstellar sulfur in the range of environments studied, while leaving open the possibility of detection in other environments or at higher frequencies once better laboratory data exist.
Load-bearing premise
The load-bearing premise is that the excitation temperature, line width, and source size adopted for each molecule in each source — borrowed from structurally similar species such as HN13CO, HNCO, and H2CCO — actually describe the gas where HCCSH and H2CCS would emit; if the true excitation temperature is much lower or the emitting region much smaller than assumed, the quoted upper limits could shift by orders of magnitude.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- Neither HCCSH nor H2CCS can be invoked as the hidden gas-phase sulfur reservoir in dark clouds, protostellar cores, or high-mass star-forming regions; the missing-sulfur explanation must lie elsewhere, such as in ices, grains, or other molecules.
- The barrierless SH + CCH formation route does not guarantee a detectable abundance of HCCSH: either gas-phase production is inefficient or the molecule is destroyed quickly, plausibly by atomic hydrogen in the same way the analogous [H2,C3,O] isomer propadienone is thought to be removed.
- Both isomers remain reasonable future detection targets in sulfur-rich sources, but only after laboratory measurements extend to the strongest lines — HCCSH near 850 GHz and its 1.4 THz $b$-type branch — so that searches do not rely on uncertain extrapolations.
- The fact that the most stable isomer (H2CCS) is absent while less stable isomers are known in similar families reinforces the message that kinetic formation and destruction, not thermodynamic stability, govern which isomers appear in space.
- Because the upper limits are set by rms noise at assumed line positions, new laboratory spectroscopy directly sharpens the constraint: covering the strongest warm-environment transitions would improve the limits substantially in sources where line confusion does not dominate.
Reading between the lines
- Read together with the paper's own review of condensed-phase carriers, the non-detections point toward the solid phase: if these small gas-phase hydrocarbons are not present, carriers such as FeS grains, H2S ice, or OCS ice become the more plausible hiding places for the missing sulfur, which is a testable prediction for ice observations in the JWST era.
- The paper treats destruction by atomic hydrogen as a plausible explanation for HCCSH's absence by analogy with propadienone; a natural next step would be quantum-chemical rate calculations or crossed-beam experiments for H + HCCSH and H + H2CCS, which would predict which sulfur isomers should be detectable.
- The same observational machinery could be applied immediately to the third isomer, c-H2C2S (thiirene), once its laboratory spectrum is measured; the paper cannot search it now, so the [H2,C2,S] family is only two-thirds tested by this study.
- Re-analyzing the cold sources with non-LTE radiative-transfer models rather than a single excitation temperature might tighten the limits below $10^{-12}$ relative to H$_2$, since the single-temperature assumption is the largest modeling uncertainty in the upper-limit calculation.
Signed reviews
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript reports targeted searches for the rotational lines of the sulfur-bearing isomers HCCSH and H2CCS using archival and new line surveys covering dark clouds, isolated protostars, and high-mass star-forming regions. Building on new laboratory rest frequencies for HCCSH and existing data for H2CCS, the authors compute upper limits on column density for each source using a single-excitation-temperature radiative transfer model, with partition functions that include vibrational corrections. No convincing emission or absorption is found, and abundance upper limits relative to H2 are derived. The authors conclude that neither isomer is a major reservoir of interstellar sulfur in the studied environments.
Significance. The paper provides a clean, negative result that rules out two plausible sulfur carriers as major reservoirs across a wide range of environments. Its method is standard and transparent: it uses laboratory rest frequencies, an explicit radiative-transfer formula with vibrational corrections to the partition function, and separate limits for extrapolated and laboratory-covered lines. The central conclusion is robust to the main modeling assumption (borrowed excitation temperatures and source sizes) because even the least favorable upper limit (HCCSH toward Sgr B2(N), X~4e-7) is about two orders of magnitude below the total sulfur abundance relative to H2 (~2.6e-5), leaving ample headroom. The paper also honestly scopes its conclusion to the environments studied and points to avenues for improvement via laboratory spectroscopy.
minor comments (6)
- [Section 3, Eq. (1)] The equation as typeset is garbled, so the optical-depth correction term cannot be verified; please ensure the final typeset version is correct.
- [Section 3 and Tables 2/3] The limits are described as '1σ upper limits'; because an upper limit conventionally implies a confidence level, I recommend either reporting 3σ upper limits or explicitly labeling these as 1σ sensitivity limits.
- [Abstract and Section 5] The statement that 'typical upper limits ... are 10^-9-10^-10' is not representative of the high-mass star-forming regions in Table 2 (e.g., Sgr B2(N), X~4e-7); please qualify the statement.
- [Section 3, second paragraph] The molecule is once misspelled as 'HCSSH'; it should be 'HCCSH'.
- [Figure B2, Orion-KL panel] The transition label appears to be '441,43−41,42', which is missing a digit; it should be '441,43−431,42' to match Table 3.
- [Table 2, NGC 6334I row] No N(H2) or X(H2) is given for this source; if this quantity cannot be reliably estimated, the omission should be noted.
Circularity Check
No circularity identified: upper limits are computed from external laboratory rest frequencies and observed spectra, not fitted to the data being predicted.
full rationale
The paper's derivation chain is self-contained against external benchmarks. The central claim, that neither HCCSH nor H2CCS is a major interstellar sulfur reservoir, rests on non-detections and column-density upper limits computed with Eq. 1 from measured or extrapolated rest frequencies. The HCCSH laboratory spectrum is from Lee et al. 2018 and the H2CCS spectrum from Winnewisser & Schäfer 1980; neither set of frequencies is derived from the astronomical data in this paper, and the present observations are not used to tune any spectroscopic parameter. The adopted excitation temperatures, line widths, and source sizes (Tables A1 and A2) are taken from chemically similar molecules and are plainly labeled as assumptions rather than fits to the target species, so the resulting upper limits are not forced predictions of the inputs. The conclusion is also explicitly scoped to 'the range of environments studied,' and the paper separately reports limits based on laboratory-covered lines when extrapolated frequencies are uncertain. No step in the argument reduces by construction to its own inputs, and the self-citations to co-authored laboratory and source-characterization work are used as external evidence with stated assumptions, not as a uniqueness theorem or ansatz that forbids alternatives.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (2)
- Assumed excitation temperature Tex per source =
7 K (TMC1) to 280 K (Sgr B2(N))
- Assumed source size theta_s and background temperature Tbg =
e.g., 2.3-20 arcsec; 2.7-28.2 K
assumptions (4)
- domain assumption The adopted single-excitation temperature and source physical parameters for each source are representative of the gas where HCCSH or H2CCS would reside.
- domain assumption Laboratory rest frequencies and their quoted accuracies, including extrapolation beyond 660 GHz for HCCSH and 230 GHz for H2CCS, are correct.
- standard math The partition function can be approximated by the product of rotational and harmonic vibrational sums with Qelec = 1.
- domain assumption Optically thin emission or absorption with a single excitation temperature (Eq. 1) adequately describes the lines.
Cite this review
Pith. "Pith review of Searches for Interstellar HCCSH and H$_2$CCS." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/EV7IOA53
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author = {Pith},
title = {Pith review of: Searches for Interstellar HCCSH and H$_2$CCS},
year = {2026},
howpublished = {\url{https://pith.science/paper/EV7IOA53}},
note = {Machine review of arXiv:1908.04247}
}
abstract
A long standing problem in astrochemistry is the inability of many current models to account for missing sulfur content. Many relatively simple species that may be good candidates to sequester sulfur have not been measured experimentally at the high spectral resolution necessary to enable radioastronomical identification. On the basis of new laboratory data, we report searches for the rotational lines in the microwave, millimeter, and sub-millimeter regions of the sulfur-containing hydrocarbon HCCSH. This simple species would appear to be a promising candidate for detection in space owing to the large dipole moment along its $b$-inertial axis, and because the bimolecular reaction between two highly abundant astronomical fragments (CCH and SH radicals) may be rapid. An inspection of multiple line surveys from the centimeter to the far-infrared toward a range of sources from dark clouds to high-mass star-forming regions, however, resulted in non-detections. An analogous search for the lowest-energy isomer, H$_2$CCS, is presented for comparison, and also resulted in non-detections. Typical upper limits on the abundance of both species relative to hydrogen are $10^{-9}$-$10^{-10}$. We thus conclude that neither isomer is a major reservoir of interstellar sulfur in the range of environments studied. Both species may still be viable candidates for detection in other environments or at higher frequencies, providing laboratory frequencies are available.
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