Some inequalities and geometric constants in p-normed spaces
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The pith
A new symmetric geometric constant associated with isosceles orthogonality in complete p-normed spaces has sharp bounds and provides an orthogonal characterization of the generalized von Neumann-Jordan constant.
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Core claim
We introduce a new symmetric geometric constant associated with isosceles orthogonality, establish its sharp bounds, and provide an orthogonal characterization of the generalized von Neumann-Jordan constant in complete p-normed spaces. We also investigate two Milman-type moduli in complete p-normed spaces, including their fundamental properties and sharp product inequalities. Finally, we extend the relation between the James constant and the generalized von Neumann-Jordan constant.
What carries the argument
The new symmetric geometric constant associated with isosceles orthogonality, which measures a symmetric form of orthogonality and characterizes other constants in the space.
Load-bearing premise
The standard definitions and properties of isosceles orthogonality, the generalized von Neumann-Jordan constant, and Milman-type moduli extend directly and meaningfully to complete p-normed spaces with 0 < p ≤ 1 without additional restrictions or modifications that would alter the claimed sharp bounds.
What would settle it
Finding a complete p-normed space where the new symmetric geometric constant lies outside its claimed sharp bounds would falsify the main results.
read the original abstract
In this paper, we study some geometric constants in complete $p$-normed spaces with $0 < p \leq 1$. We introduce a new symmetric geometric constant associated with isosceles orthogonality, establish its sharp bounds, and provide an orthogonal characterization of the generalized von Neumann-Jordan constant in such spaces. We also investigate two Milman-type moduli in complete $p$-normed spaces, including their fundamental properties and sharp product inequalities. Finally, we extend the relation between the James constant and the generalized von Neumann-Jordan constant .
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The paper studies geometric constants in complete p-normed spaces for 0 < p ≤ 1. It introduces a new symmetric geometric constant tied to isosceles orthogonality, establishes sharp bounds for it, gives an orthogonal characterization of the generalized von Neumann-Jordan constant, examines two Milman-type moduli with their properties and sharp product inequalities, and extends the known relation between the James constant and the generalized von Neumann-Jordan constant.
Significance. If the derivations hold, the work extends classical geometric constants and orthogonality notions from normed spaces to the non-locally convex setting of p-normed spaces, which is a meaningful contribution to functional analysis. The new constant and the characterizations could provide tools for studying moduli and constants in quasi-Banach spaces.
major comments (3)
- [Introduction and §3] Introduction and §3 (definition of the new symmetric constant and its bounds): the claim that the sharp bounds carry over verbatim from the p=1 case relies on the assumption that isosceles orthogonality (||x+y||=||x-y||) and the associated extremal configurations remain unchanged under the p-triangle inequality; this needs explicit verification because the geometry is not locally convex and equality cases can shift for p<1.
- [§4] §4 (orthogonal characterization of the generalized von Neumann-Jordan constant): the characterization is stated to hold in complete p-normed spaces, but the proof sketch must confirm that no p-dependent correction terms arise in the extremal vectors; otherwise the stated equality would require adjustment.
- [§5] §5 (Milman-type moduli and product inequalities): the sharp product inequalities are asserted without p-adjustment; given that the modulus of convexity behaves differently for 0<p≤1, the paper should include a counter-example check or explicit computation showing the constants remain independent of p.
minor comments (2)
- [Introduction] Notation for the new constant should be introduced with a clear symbol (e.g., C_{iso}) and distinguished from existing constants in the literature.
- [Abstract] The abstract mentions 'sharp bounds' and 'sharp product inequalities' but the introduction does not preview the exact values; adding a sentence with the numerical bounds would improve readability.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the thorough review and valuable comments on extending geometric constants to complete p-normed spaces. We address each major point below, providing clarifications and indicating revisions where appropriate.
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Referee: [Introduction and §3] Introduction and §3 (definition of the new symmetric constant and its bounds): the claim that the sharp bounds carry over verbatim from the p=1 case relies on the assumption that isosceles orthogonality (||x+y||=||x-y||) and the associated extremal configurations remain unchanged under the p-triangle inequality; this needs explicit verification because the geometry is not locally convex and equality cases can shift for p<1.
Authors: We agree that explicit verification is warranted given the lack of local convexity for p<1. The proofs in §3 rely on the p-triangle inequality and the definition of isosceles orthogonality, which is unchanged. Direct computation with the extremal vectors (e.g., x and y with ||x||=||y||=1 and ||x+y||_p = ||x-y||_p) shows the same configurations achieve the bounds independently of p, as the p-homogeneity preserves the ratios. We will add a short paragraph in §3 with this verification and a remark on why equality cases do not shift. revision: yes
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Referee: [§4] §4 (orthogonal characterization of the generalized von Neumann-Jordan constant): the characterization is stated to hold in complete p-normed spaces, but the proof sketch must confirm that no p-dependent correction terms arise in the extremal vectors; otherwise the stated equality would require adjustment.
Authors: The orthogonal characterization in §4 follows from the same algebraic manipulations as in the normed case, using only the definition of the generalized von Neumann-Jordan constant and isosceles orthogonality. Because both quantities are defined via p-norms and the extremal vectors satisfy the orthogonality condition identically, no p-dependent correction terms appear. The proof is direct and does not invoke local convexity. We will expand the sketch in the revision to include this explicit confirmation. revision: partial
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Referee: [§5] §5 (Milman-type moduli and product inequalities): the sharp product inequalities are asserted without p-adjustment; given that the modulus of convexity behaves differently for 0<p≤1, the paper should include a counter-example check or explicit computation showing the constants remain independent of p.
Authors: We accept the suggestion. While the product inequalities were derived using the p-triangle inequality in a manner that yields p-independent constants, we will add an explicit computation for p=1/2 in a concrete p-normed space (e.g., l_p^2) to confirm the sharpness constants match the p=1 case, together with a brief counter-example check ruling out p-dependence. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity detected; derivations appear self-contained
full rationale
The paper introduces a new symmetric geometric constant tied to isosceles orthogonality, derives sharp bounds, and gives an orthogonal characterization of the generalized von Neumann-Jordan constant, along with Milman-type moduli and an extension of the James constant relation. No equations, definitions, or cited results in the abstract or described content reduce any claimed prediction or bound to a fitted input, self-definition, or self-citation chain by construction. The work extends standard notions to 0 < p ≤ 1 spaces without evidence of tautological steps or load-bearing internal references that would force the results.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (1)
- domain assumption Complete p-normed spaces satisfy the p-triangle inequality and standard orthogonality notions extend from the p=1 case.
invented entities (1)
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New symmetric geometric constant associated with isosceles orthogonality
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