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arxiv: 2605.23800 · v1 · pith:I2NIHBWGnew · submitted 2026-05-22 · ⚛️ physics.flu-dyn

A derivation of viscous thin film flow equations on curved surfaces

J. A. Hanna , R. S. Hutton This is my paper

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keywords thin filmcurved surfacesviscous flowMarangoni effectcapillary flowgravitysurfactantasymptotic analysis
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General equations for slow viscous thin film flows on curved surfaces are derived via an extension of Leal's approach using direct through-thickness integration of the continuity equation.

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The paper establishes general equations for the dynamics of slow viscous thin fluid films flowing on curved surfaces. It extends a pedagogical derivation method that does not fix the velocity scale in advance and instead integrates the continuity equation directly across the film thickness. The resulting model includes gravitational, capillary, and Marangoni effects from surfactant transport while neglecting inertia. This matters for modeling fluid behavior on non-flat geometries where curvature changes influence the flow. The derivation also points to the need for careful nondimensionalization of geometric features.

Core claim

By extending Leal's approach, leaving the characteristic velocity scale unspecified and employing direct through-thickness integration of the continuity equation, general equations are obtained for slow viscous thin fluid film flows on curved surfaces. These equations neglect inertia and incorporate leading order gravitational, capillary, and Marangoni effects, along with additional terms relevant for nongeneric cases, emphasizing the importance of gradients in curvature.

What carries the argument

Direct through-thickness integration of the continuity equation within the asymptotic reduction that leaves velocity scale unspecified.

If this is right

  • The equations capture leading-order terms for gravity, capillary, and Marangoni driving forces.
  • Additional terms arise that become leading order when curvature gradients are large.
  • The model provides a starting point for studying interactions between geometry, gravity, and surface tension.
  • Nondimensionalization of geometric features may yield further useful generalizations.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • These equations could be tested on specific curved geometries such as cylindrical or spherical surfaces to verify curvature gradient effects.
  • Applications might include modeling surfactant-driven flows on biological curved membranes.
  • Extending the approach to include weak inertia could reveal when the neglect of inertia breaks down.

Load-bearing premise

The thin-film and slow-flow limits are assumed to remain uniformly valid even when curvature gradients become large, with inertia neglected entirely.

What would settle it

Numerical simulation of the full Navier-Stokes equations for a thin film on a surface with rapidly varying curvature, compared against predictions from these equations for film thickness evolution.

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General equations are derived for slow viscous thin fluid film flows on curved surfaces through an extension of Leal's pedagogical approach, which leaves the characteristic velocity scale unspecified and employs a direct through-thickness integration of the continuity equation. The derivation neglects inertia, and includes gravitational, capillary, and Marangoni effects, the latter coupling the thickness dynamics to free-surface transport of a dilute, non-diffusing surfactant. The resulting general expression incorporates the leading order terms of each type, as well as additional terms that become leading order for nongeneric cases. A few examples are briefly presented and literature comparisons made. The importance of gradients in curvature is emphasized, and it is suggested that nondimensionalization of geometric features might lead to further useful generalizations. This relatively simple formulation is intended as a starting point for exploring interactions between geometry, gravity, and surface tension.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

1 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript derives general equations for slow viscous thin fluid film flows on curved surfaces by extending Leal's pedagogical approach. It employs direct through-thickness integration of the continuity equation while leaving the characteristic velocity scale unspecified, neglects inertia from the outset, and incorporates gravitational, capillary, and Marangoni effects (the latter coupled to free-surface transport of a dilute non-diffusing surfactant). The resulting equations retain leading-order terms of each type plus additional terms relevant for nongeneric cases; a few examples are presented and literature comparisons are made, with emphasis on the importance of curvature gradients.

Significance. If the algebra holds, the work supplies a relatively simple general formulation that can serve as a starting point for studying interactions among geometry, gravity, and surface tension in thin-film flows. The explicit retention of curvature-gradient terms and the flexible treatment of the velocity scale are potential strengths for applications on complex surfaces. The inclusion of surfactant-driven Marangoni effects broadens the scope beyond purely hydrodynamic models.

major comments (1)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract and derivation: the premise that inertia can be neglected entirely and that the thin-film and slow-flow limits remain uniformly valid even when curvature gradients become large is stated without an accompanying scaling analysis, Reynolds-number bounds, or explicit error estimates. This is load-bearing because it determines whether all curvature-gradient terms are retained at the correct order.
minor comments (2)
  1. The nondimensionalization suggestion at the end of the abstract is intriguing but left undeveloped; a brief illustration of how geometric features might be nondimensionalized would strengthen the closing discussion.
  2. Literature comparisons are mentioned but lack specific equation-by-equation contrasts with prior curved-surface thin-film models; adding one or two such comparisons would clarify the novelty of the curvature-gradient terms.

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We thank the referee for their constructive feedback on our manuscript. We address the single major comment below, indicating planned revisions where appropriate.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract and derivation: the premise that inertia can be neglected entirely and that the thin-film and slow-flow limits remain uniformly valid even when curvature gradients become large is stated without an accompanying scaling analysis, Reynolds-number bounds, or explicit error estimates. This is load-bearing because it determines whether all curvature-gradient terms are retained at the correct order.

    Authors: The derivation follows the standard lubrication approach for slow viscous flows by extending Leal's method, with inertia neglected from the outset under the assumption of small Reynolds number based on film thickness and a characteristic velocity (left unspecified for generality). Curvature-gradient terms are retained because they can reach leading order for nongeneric surface geometries, as shown in the examples and literature comparisons. We acknowledge that the manuscript does not supply an accompanying scaling analysis, explicit Re bounds, or error estimates to confirm uniform validity when curvature gradients become large. In revision we will add a concise paragraph in the introduction or derivation section outlining the underlying assumptions (thin-film aspect ratio ε ≪ 1 and Re ≪ 1) and noting the potential limitations for extremely rapid curvature variations, without performing a full re-derivation of higher-order asymptotics. revision: partial

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity

full rationale

The derivation extends Leal's external pedagogical approach via direct through-thickness integration of continuity, with inertia neglected at the outset and no fitted parameters or self-citations invoked as load-bearing premises. The central result is an algebraic reduction from standard thin-film assumptions, presented as self-contained and compared to literature without reducing to prior author results by construction. No load-bearing step equates output to input via definition, fit, or self-citation chain.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 3 axioms · 0 invented entities

The central claim rests on the thin-film and slow-flow asymptotic assumptions plus the validity of direct through-thickness integration; no free parameters or new entities are introduced in the abstract.

axioms (3)
  • domain assumption Inertia may be neglected (slow-flow limit)
    Stated explicitly in the abstract as the regime of the derivation.
  • domain assumption The film is thin compared with the radius of curvature
    Implicit in the thin-film approximation used throughout.
  • domain assumption Surfactant is dilute and non-diffusing
    Stated in the abstract when introducing the Marangoni term.

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