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Topologically free minimal actions without dynamical comparison

Paolo Boldrini , Akshara Prasad This is my paper

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keywords dynamical comparisontopologically free actionsminimal actionsCantor spacefree grouptype semigroupcrossed productsinvariant measures
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There exist topologically free minimal actions of the infinite free group on the Cantor space without dynamical comparison.

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This paper shows that dynamical comparison need not hold for topologically free minimal actions of F_infinity on the Cantor set. Examples are constructed both when invariant measures exist and when they do not. It is also shown that strict comparison of the reduced crossed product C*-algebra fails to imply dynamical comparison. The method uses an algebraic construction of a suitable monoid embedded into a refinement monoid that is then realized dynamically.

Core claim

The authors prove the existence of a topologically free minimal action of F_∞ on the Cantor space that lacks dynamical comparison. This occurs in both the measure-preserving and non-measure-preserving cases. They additionally demonstrate that strict comparison in the associated reduced crossed product does not entail dynamical comparison. Their approach involves constructing a monoid which is not almost unperforated, embedding it into a countable refinement monoid, and realizing it as the type semigroup of the action.

What carries the argument

A non-almost-unperforated monoid embedded into a countable refinement monoid and realized as the type semigroup of the action.

If this is right

  • Dynamical comparison can fail even for topologically free minimal actions on zero-dimensional compact spaces.
  • The failure is possible regardless of the existence of invariant probability measures.
  • Algebraic strict comparison in crossed products is strictly weaker than dynamical comparison for the action.
  • The type semigroup can encode the absence of dynamical comparison while preserving minimality and topological freeness.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Actions of other amenable groups might admit similar counterexamples if their type semigroups can be engineered similarly.
  • Classification programs for crossed products by minimal actions may need to account for this separation between comparison properties.
  • This construction technique could be adapted to produce examples on other compact spaces beyond the Cantor set.

Load-bearing premise

A monoid that fails to be almost unperforated can be embedded into a countable refinement monoid and realized as the type semigroup for a topologically free minimal action on the Cantor set.

What would settle it

Finding a specific topologically free minimal action of F_∞ on the Cantor set and verifying directly whether its type semigroup is almost unperforated.

read the original abstract

We show the existence of a topologically free minimal action of $\mathbb F_\infty$ on the Cantor space that does not have dynamical comparison. Moreover, we show that this phenomenon can happen both in the presence and in the absence of invariant measures. We also show that strict comparison of the reduced crossed product C*-algebra does not imply dynamical comparison for minimal actions. Our technique involves constructing a monoid which is not almost unperforated, embedding it into a countable refinement monoid and then realising it as the type semigroup associated to a dynamical system.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper constructs a topologically free minimal action of the free group F_∞ on the Cantor set whose type semigroup is a countable refinement monoid that is not almost unperforated, thereby providing a counterexample to dynamical comparison. The same phenomenon is realized both in the presence and absence of invariant measures. It is further shown that strict comparison of the reduced crossed product does not imply dynamical comparison. The argument proceeds by exhibiting an explicit non-almost-unperforated monoid M, embedding M into a countable refinement monoid N, and realizing N as the type semigroup of a concrete dynamical system.

Significance. If the realization step preserves the exact monoid structure, the result separates dynamical comparison from both the existence of invariant measures and from strict comparison of the crossed product, supplying concrete counterexamples in the theory of minimal actions on zero-dimensional spaces. The explicit algebraic construction of M and its embedding into a refinement monoid is a clear technical strength that makes the counterexamples potentially verifiable and usable for further work.

major comments (2)
  1. [§4] §4 (Realization of the monoid): the claim that the constructed action realizes N exactly as its type semigroup (without additional relations forced by minimality or topological freeness) is load-bearing for the non-almost-unperforation property. The sketch does not contain an explicit verification that the generators corresponding to the perforation-witnessing elements of N remain distinct and satisfy no extra inequalities in the dynamical type semigroup.
  2. [§3.2] §3.2 (Embedding M ↪ N): while the embedding is stated to be order-preserving, it is not shown that the image of the non-almost-unperforated pair in M remains non-almost-unperforated inside the refinement monoid N; refinement could in principle introduce new relations that restore almost unperforation before the dynamical realization step.
minor comments (2)
  1. [§2] The notation for the type semigroup is introduced without a displayed definition; a displayed equation would clarify the precise monoid operation used throughout.
  2. Several references to prior work on almost unperforated monoids are given only by author names; full citations should be added in the bibliography.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the thorough report and the recommendation for major revision. The two major comments identify places where additional explicit verification is needed to make the arguments fully rigorous. We agree that these points require expansion and will revise the manuscript accordingly. Our point-by-point responses follow.

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  1. Referee: [§4] §4 (Realization of the monoid): the claim that the constructed action realizes N exactly as its type semigroup (without additional relations forced by minimality or topological freeness) is load-bearing for the non-almost-unperforation property. The sketch does not contain an explicit verification that the generators corresponding to the perforation-witnessing elements of N remain distinct and satisfy no extra inequalities in the dynamical type semigroup.

    Authors: We agree that the current presentation in §4 provides only a sketch and lacks an explicit verification that the type semigroup of the realized action coincides exactly with N. In the revised manuscript we will add a detailed argument in §4 showing that the clopen sets corresponding to the generators of N can be chosen so that the only relations enforced by the minimal topologically free action are those already present in N. The construction proceeds by first realizing the free refinement monoid on the generators and then using the freeness of F_∞ to ensure no unintended dynamical relations are introduced among the perforation-witnessing elements; this will be verified by direct computation of the type semigroup using the explicit partition of the Cantor set. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [§3.2] §3.2 (Embedding M ↪ N): while the embedding is stated to be order-preserving, it is not shown that the image of the non-almost-unperforated pair in M remains non-almost-unperforated inside the refinement monoid N; refinement could in principle introduce new relations that restore almost unperforation before the dynamical realization step.

    Authors: We acknowledge that the current text in §3.2 asserts the embedding is order-preserving but does not explicitly prove preservation of non-almost-unperforation. In the revision we will insert a short lemma immediately after the construction of N showing that the specific pair witnessing non-almost-unperforation in M remains non-almost-unperforated in N. The argument relies on the fact that the refinement relations added to obtain N are generated by elements outside the submonoid generated by the image of M, so no new inequalities are forced between multiples of the original perforation-witnessing elements. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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Explicit monoid construction and realization yields independent dynamical counterexample

full rationale

The paper's central result rests on an explicit three-step construction: define a monoid M that fails almost unperforation, embed M into a countable refinement monoid N, and realize N as the type semigroup of a topologically free minimal F_∞-action on the Cantor set. This chain is presented as a direct existence proof rather than any reduction of the target non-comparison property to a fitted parameter, self-referential definition, or load-bearing self-citation. No equation or step equates the output property to its input by construction, and the realization technique is described as producing the required dynamical system without tautological collapse. The argument therefore remains self-contained against external benchmarks.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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The claim rests on the existence of a non-almost-unperforated monoid that embeds into a countable refinement monoid and can be realized as the type semigroup of a dynamical system; these are standard objects in semigroup theory and dynamical systems but their specific combination is the novel step.

axioms (1)
  • standard math Standard properties of monoids, refinement monoids, and type semigroups associated to group actions on Cantor sets
    The construction invokes the usual definitions and embedding theorems for these algebraic objects without additional ad-hoc axioms.

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