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Maximal entropy production principle and the Euler system of gas dynamics
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Pith's one-line read The maximal entropy production principle excludes the standard self-similar solution for certain two-dimensional Riemann problems in the Euler system.
desk verdict The paper gives a direct 2D Riemann counterexample showing the self-similar solution does not maximize entropy production, plus a general construction for arbitrary non-decreasing entropy profiles. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The maximal entropy production principle, which selects among entropy-admissible weak solutions the one that maximizes the instantaneous rate of entropy increase.
What would settle it
A direct numerical or experimental measurement, for the specific Riemann data of the example, of whether the observed entropy production rate equals the rate of the self-similar solution or exceeds it.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
For Riemann initial data in two space dimensions the standard self-similar solution fails to attain the maximal possible rate of entropy production among entropy-admissible weak solutions. Hence the maximal entropy production principle rules out this solution. In addition, for a large class of initial data there exist entropy-admissible weak solutions whose integrated entropy production can be prescribed as any non-decreasing function of time.
Load-bearing premise
The maximal entropy production principle is a physically meaningful selection criterion that should recover the intuitively relevant self-similar solution for the given Riemann data.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- The self-similar solution is excluded by the maximal entropy production principle for the constructed two-dimensional Riemann data.
- Entropy-admissible weak solutions with arbitrarily prescribed non-decreasing total entropy profiles exist for a broad class of initial data.
- The non-uniqueness of weak solutions persists even after imposing the maximal entropy production criterion.
Reading between the lines
- Alternative selection mechanisms beyond maximal entropy production may be required to isolate physically observed solutions.
- The freedom to choose the entropy profile suggests that dissipative effects in the model can be tuned independently of the initial data.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper uses convex integration to address selection of weak solutions to the 2D Euler system of gas dynamics under the entropy inequality. For specific Riemann initial data it constructs an explicit counter-example showing that the standard 1-D self-similar solution does not attain the supremum of the entropy production rate. It further proves that, for a large class of initial data, entropy-admissible weak solutions exist whose total entropy profile can be any prescribed non-decreasing function.
Significance. If the constructions are correct, the work supplies a mathematically rigorous negative answer to whether the maximal entropy production principle recovers the intuitively physical self-similar solution, and demonstrates that the admissible entropy profiles are essentially arbitrary. The explicit counter-example and the flexible profile construction are concrete contributions to the literature on ill-posedness and selection criteria for hyperbolic systems.
major comments (2)
- [§3] §3 (counter-example construction): the verification that the self-similar solution fails to maximize the entropy production rate relies on an explicit comparison of total entropy production; the argument would be strengthened by an explicit formula or numerical value for the production rate attained by the self-similar solution versus the constructed competitor.
- [Theorem 1.2] Theorem 1.2 (arbitrary entropy profiles): the statement that any non-decreasing profile is attainable is load-bearing for the second claim; the proof sketch in §4 should clarify how the convex-integration scheme controls the integrated entropy production while preserving the entropy inequality pointwise.
minor comments (2)
- [§2] The notation for the entropy production rate functional is introduced without a numbered equation; adding an explicit definition (e.g., Eq. (2.3)) would improve readability.
- [Figure 1] Figure 1 (Riemann data diagram) lacks axis labels and a caption explaining the wave configuration; this is a minor clarity issue.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the careful reading, the positive assessment of the work, and the recommendation for minor revision. We address each major comment below.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: [§3] §3 (counter-example construction): the verification that the self-similar solution fails to maximize the entropy production rate relies on an explicit comparison of total entropy production; the argument would be strengthened by an explicit formula or numerical value for the production rate attained by the self-similar solution versus the constructed competitor.
Authors: We thank the referee for this constructive suggestion. The comparison in §3 already establishes that the convex-integration competitor attains a strictly higher total entropy production rate than the self-similar solution, but we agree that an explicit formula or numerical illustration would make the distinction more transparent. In the revised manuscript we will add the explicit entropy-production formula for the self-similar Riemann solution together with a direct numerical comparison against the rate realized by the constructed weak solution. revision: yes
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Referee: [Theorem 1.2] Theorem 1.2 (arbitrary entropy profiles): the statement that any non-decreasing profile is attainable is load-bearing for the second claim; the proof sketch in §4 should clarify how the convex-integration scheme controls the integrated entropy production while preserving the entropy inequality pointwise.
Authors: We agree that additional detail on this point will strengthen the exposition. In the revised version we will expand the proof sketch in §4 to explain precisely how the convex-integration iteration is modified so that the integrated entropy production can be prescribed arbitrarily (subject only to monotonicity) while the entropy inequality is enforced pointwise at every stage of the construction. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity
full rationale
The paper establishes mathematical counterexamples and existence results for the Euler system via convex integration. The key statements—that the 1-D self-similar solution fails to maximize entropy production for given 2-D Riemann data, and that arbitrary non-decreasing entropy profiles are attainable—are direct constructions from the method, not reductions to fitted inputs, self-definitions, or load-bearing self-citations. No derivation step equates a claimed prediction or uniqueness result to its own inputs by construction. The work is self-contained against external mathematical benchmarks.
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read the original abstract
Convex integration has revealed that the Euler system of gas dynamics is ill-posed in the class of weak solutions even if the entropy inequality is imposed as an additional constraint. A natural question arises, namely, if a physically relevant solution can be selected by maximizing the entropy production rate. Firstly, we present an example of Riemann initial data in 2-D, for which the standard self-similar solution fails to satisfy the maximal entropy production principle. Hence, maximizing the entropy production rate rules out the 1-D self-similar solution which intuitively seems to be the physically relevant solution in this context. Secondly, we show for a large class of initial data that there exist entropy admissible weak solutions with an arbitrary (non-decreasing) total entropy profile.
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