Minimum degree stability for graphs without odd-cycle blow-up
Pith reviewed 2026-06-27 21:42 UTC · model grok-4.3
The pith
Graphs with minimum degree at least (2/(2g+1) + ε)n either contain the t-blowup of an odd cycle or can be made bipartite by deleting O(n^{2-ρ}) edges.
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Core claim
For fixed integers g≥2 and t≥1, and every ε>0, there exists ρ>0 such that every n-vertex graph G with δ(G)≥(2/(2g+1)+ε)n either contains C_{2g-1}[t] or can be made bipartite by deleting O(n^{2-ρ}) edges.
What carries the argument
The minimum-degree threshold 2/(2g+1) together with the forbidden subgraph C_{2g-1}[t], which together force any graph above the threshold to be structurally close to bipartite when the blow-up is absent.
If this is right
- The result gives an affirmative answer to Illingworth's question for the family of odd-cycle blow-ups.
- The bound O(n^{2-ρ}) supplies a concrete power-saving improvement over merely o(n²) deletions.
- The statement holds uniformly once g, t, and ε are fixed, independent of n.
- The same form of stability applies whenever the extremal density is achieved by bipartite graphs adjusted by the cycle length parameter g.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The same stability mechanism may apply to other blow-up forbidden graphs whose Turán density is known and bipartite.
- One could attempt to extract an explicit value or lower bound for ρ by tracking the regularity or embedding lemmas used in the proof.
- The result suggests algorithmic consequences for testing near-bipartiteness under a degree condition that forbids the blow-up.
- Similar quantitative stability statements could be sought for hypergraph analogues or for directed versions of the same forbidden configurations.
Load-bearing premise
There exists some positive ρ (depending on g, t, and ε) that works uniformly for all large n and guarantees the stated deletion bound.
What would settle it
A family of n-vertex graphs with minimum degree at least (2/(2g+1)+ε)n that avoid C_{2g-1}[t] yet require deletion of Ω(n^{2-δ}) edges to become bipartite for every δ>0.
read the original abstract
For fixed integers $g\ge 2$ and $t\ge 1$, and every $\varepsilon>0$, we prove that there exists a constant $\rho>0$ such that every $n$-vertex graph $G$ with $\delta(G)\ge (2/(2g+1)+\varepsilon)n$ either contains $C_{2g-1}[t]$, or can be made bipartite by deleting $O(n^{2-\rho})$ edges. This gives an affirmative answer to a question of Illingworth in [Minimum degree stability of $H$-free graphs, Combinatorica, 43(1):129-147, 2023.]
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper proves that for fixed integers g≥2 and t≥1, and every ε>0, there exists ρ>0 such that every n-vertex graph G with δ(G)≥(2/(2g+1)+ε)n either contains C_{2g-1}[t] or can be made bipartite by deleting O(n^{2-ρ}) edges. This affirmatively answers a question of Illingworth (2023) on minimum-degree stability for H-free graphs.
Significance. If the quantitative claim holds, the result strengthens qualitative stability theorems by supplying an explicit power-saving rate (n^{2-ρ}) on the edit distance to bipartiteness. It is a direct contribution to extremal graph theory that resolves an open question using existing stability machinery.
major comments (2)
- [Abstract and §1] Abstract and §1 (Theorem statement): the existence of ρ>0 is asserted, but the manuscript supplies no explicit derivation or lower bound for ρ in terms of g,t,ε; it is unclear whether the argument produces a positive ρ or merely invokes a non-quantitative black-box lemma whose output may be o(n^2) without a uniform power saving.
- [Proof of the main theorem (likely §3–4)] Proof of the main theorem (likely §3–4): the reduction to a regularity or embedding lemma is invoked, yet the text does not verify that the quantitative output of the cited lemma (e.g., the dependence of the error term on the minimum-degree excess ε) yields a positive ρ independent of n; without this check the central quantitative claim is not load-bearing.
minor comments (2)
- [Introduction] Define the blow-up notation C_{2g-1}[t] explicitly on first use and ensure it is used consistently.
- [Preliminaries] Add a short paragraph recalling the precise statement of the stability or embedding lemma from the cited prior work that is used to obtain ρ.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the careful reading and for highlighting the need to make the quantitative aspects of the stability result fully explicit. We address each major comment below and will revise the manuscript accordingly.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: [Abstract and §1] Abstract and §1 (Theorem statement): the existence of ρ>0 is asserted, but the manuscript supplies no explicit derivation or lower bound for ρ in terms of g,t,ε; it is unclear whether the argument produces a positive ρ or merely invokes a non-quantitative black-box lemma whose output may be o(n^2) without a uniform power saving.
Authors: The proof in Sections 3–4 derives a positive ρ from the quantitative versions of the regularity lemma and the embedding lemma that are invoked (with parameters depending on the fixed ε, g and t). The minimum-degree excess ε determines a regularity parameter δ(ε) small enough that the resulting edit-distance error is O(n^{2-ρ}) with ρ>0 depending only on those parameters. We agree that the manuscript does not spell out this dependence explicitly in §1, and we will add a short paragraph there (and a reference in the proof) tracing how the choice of δ yields the power saving. revision: yes
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Referee: [Proof of the main theorem (likely §3–4)] Proof of the main theorem (likely §3–4): the reduction to a regularity or embedding lemma is invoked, yet the text does not verify that the quantitative output of the cited lemma (e.g., the dependence of the error term on the minimum-degree excess ε) yields a positive ρ independent of n; without this check the central quantitative claim is not load-bearing.
Authors: The cited lemmas are applied with all parameters fixed once ε, g and t are fixed; their quantitative error bounds (polynomial or tower-type, but independent of n) therefore produce a uniform positive ρ. We will insert a short verification paragraph immediately after the statement of the main theorem that records the dependence of the regularity parameter on ε and confirms that the resulting edit distance is indeed O(n^{2-ρ}). revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity; existence result is self-contained
full rationale
The paper asserts and proves an existence statement for ρ>0 depending on fixed g,t,ε. The abstract and claimed result contain no fitted parameters renamed as predictions, no self-definitional equations, and the single external citation is to the open question being resolved rather than a load-bearing prior result by the same authors. No equations or steps reduce the claimed stability bound to an input by construction. This is a standard existence proof in extremal graph theory and scores at the low end of the range.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
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