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Improved limits on the spin- and velocity-dependent exotic interaction in the micrometer range

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Pith's one-line read A cantilever-and-spin-source experiment finds no spin- and velocity-dependent exotic force in the micrometer range and sets a 95% upper limit $f_{4+5} \le 2.2\times10^{-9}$ at 2.1 µm.

desk verdict Solid null result that improves micrometer-range limits on f4+5 by about 10x, but the real-to-imaginary leakage is under-verified and needs a quantitative bound. read the letter →

arxiv 2501.10973 v1 pith:L6X3SRUT submitted 2025-01-19 hep-ex

Sumin Li , Wenbo Zhang , Rui Luo , Jinquan Liu , Pengshun Luo This is my paper · ORCID
classification hep-ex PACS 04.80.Cc
keywords exoticinteractionspin-dependentforcevelocity-dependentfifth-forcesearchcantileversensorharmonicdemodulationmicrometer-rangelimitscouplingconstantbound
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The reading

This paper reports a tabletop search for a hypothetical force between electron spins and nucleons whose strength depends on their relative velocity, a possible signature of new bosons beyond the Standard Model. The experiment drove a striped magnetic spin source back and forth under a gold sphere mounted on a soft cantilever and demodulated the force at the tenth harmonic of the drive frequency. Because the sought-after force is proportional to velocity, only its part in quadrature with the displacement should appear in the imaginary channel, while ordinary position-dependent backgrounds such as electrostatic and Casimir forces should appear only in the real channel. No periodic imaginary signal was seen, and the authors convert the noise into an upper limit on the coupling constant, $f_{4+5} \le 2.2\times10^{-9}$ at an interaction range $\lambda = 2.1\,\mu\mathrm{m}$, roughly ten times more stringent than earlier micrometer-range bounds. A null result tightens the excluded parameter space for light mediators and demonstrates that harmonic separation can suppress short-range backgrounds.

What carries the argument

The load-bearing mechanism is demodulation at the 10th harmonic of the source oscillation, using a phase reference built from an interferometric measurement of the actual source displacement. Equation (2) shows that a velocity-proportional force contributes only to the imaginary component, while Eq. (3) shows that position-only forces contribute only to the real component. The measured displacement is fitted to a Fourier series and reparametrized as a pure cosine $x(t')$, reducing the phase error below 1 mrad, so leakage of the real image into the imaginary channel is negligible. This separation is what lets a null imaginary image set a limit on the exotic coupling.

What would settle it

A controlled test where the contact-potential difference is deliberately stepped over a wide range, with the imaginary image's standard deviation monitored: if it rises above the roughly 5 fN noise floor in step with the real image amplitude, the phase-correction assumption would fail and the null imaginary image would not directly bound $f_{4+5}$.

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Extended reading notes

Core claim

The central claim is that the imaginary part of the 10th-harmonic force signal contains no periodic spatial structure correlated with the spin-source stripes, and that the remaining noise therefore bounds the spin- and velocity-dependent coupling. Using a maximum-likelihood fit to the imaginary image, the authors obtain $f_{4+5} = (-8.8 \pm 6.7)\times10^{-10}$ at $\lambda = 2.1\,\mu\mathrm{m}$, consistent with zero, and quote a 95% confidence upper limit $f_{4+5} \le 2.2\times10^{-9}$ at that range. They state that this improves the limits for interaction ranges below $10\,\mu\mathrm{m}$, with the bound at $\lambda = 2.1\,\mu\mathrm{m}$ about ten times more stringent than the current limit.

Load-bearing premise

The result depends on the assumption that, after the timing correction, nothing leaks from ordinary position-dependent forces into the imaginary part of the 10th-harmonic signal.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Any new boson with the assumed couplings in the interaction range below $10\,\mu\mathrm{m}$ must have $f_{4+5}$ below the reported curve, which at $\lambda = 2.1\,\mu\mathrm{m}$ means below $2.2\times10^{-9}$.
  • The excluded region covers mediator masses around $m_b = \hbar/(\lambda c) \sim 0.1\,\mathrm{eV}$ for this channel, complementing constraints from magnetometer and NV-center searches.
  • Because the dominant backgrounds are separated into the real channel, the limit is set by cantilever thermal noise rather than by electrostatic, Casimir, or magnetostatic forces, so quieter cantilevers would translate directly into stronger bounds.
  • The upper limit constrains combinations of vector and scalar couplings, $f_{4+5}=\tfrac{1}{2}g_e^V g_N^V$ or $\tfrac{1}{2}g_e^s g_N^s$, for light mediators.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If the imaginary-channel separation works at smaller separations, the limit could improve sharply because the potential scales roughly as $1/r^2$ near the surface; reducing the 809 nm gap is the obvious next step, and the paper's own conclusion points to reducing electrostatic force for this purpose.
  • The phase-corrected harmonic-demodulation technique is transferable to other short-range force searches: any force with a known velocity or phase dependence could be isolated from position-dependent backgrounds at a chosen harmonic.
  • Because the current bound is set by thermal noise rather than systematics, cryogenic operation or higher-quality cantilevers would push the limit to smaller couplings, and the isolation assumption should be tested with larger residual potential differences.
  • The limit on $f_{4+5}$ alone does not distinguish vector from scalar mediators; combining it with independent spin-dependent measurements that weight the vector and scalar couplings differently could separate those channels.
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Referee Report

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Summary. This paper reports an experimental search for a spin- and velocity-dependent exotic interaction between nucleons and electrons, using a cantilever with a gold sphere and a microfabricated, periodically magnetized spin source. The source is driven at 18.85 Hz with an amplitude of about 28.7 um, and the cantilever force signal is demodulated at the 10th harmonic of the drive frequency. The central result is a null observation: the imaginary part of the 10th-harmonic signal shows no periodic pattern, and a maximum-likelihood fit yields f4+5 = (-8.8 +/- 6.7) x 10^-10 at lambda = 2.1 um, leading to a 95% upper limit of 2.2 x 10^-9 and improving previous limits by about a factor of ten for interaction ranges below 10 um. The improvements come from a larger oscillation velocity, a thicker and higher-remnant-magnetization spin source, a thinner cover layer, and demodulation at a higher harmonic to suppress position-dependent background forces.

Significance. If the central result holds, it is a valuable experimental constraint: it improves the best published limits on f4+5 in the micrometer range by roughly an order of magnitude and provides an independent cross-check through the spatial pattern of the imaginary force image. The paper gives a concrete error budget in Table I, an explicit null result, internal consistency checks in Fig. 3, and a clear comparison with prior limits. The main caveat is that the background-rejection argument relies on a quantitative claim about demodulation phase error that is asserted but not directly demonstrated; this needs to be supported by a dedicated leakage calibration before the limit can be considered fully established.

major comments (2)
  1. [Table I and fit procedure] The clean separation of the imaginary (velocity-dependent) signal from the real (position-dependent) background is the load-bearing assumption of the experiment. The End Matter states that, after redefining the time variable t' so that the measured source displacement is x(t') = x0 + A_d cos(2*pi*f_d t'), the residual initial phase error is less than 1 mrad, but no measured residual waveform, fit quality metric, or direct calibration of the real-to-imaginary leakage is provided. The check in Fig. 3, where the residual potential is varied by -33 mV and +68 mV and the standard deviations of the imaginary images remain in the 5.1-6.2 fN range, is not sensitive to a coherent leaked pattern at the level of about 1 fN: such a pattern would barely change the image standard deviation yet could bias the fitted coupling constant appreciably, since the statistical uncertainty of the fit corresponds to a small fraction of the 5.2 fN image standard deviation. I request a quantitative leakage test, for example by applying a known position-dependent force (such as a controlled electrostatic force with a modulated residual voltage), processing the data through the same t' reparametrization and 10th-harmonic demodulation, and reporting the residual imaginary amplitude; alternatively, the paper should propagate the measured residual phase error through Eqs. (2) and (3) and bound the induced imaginary signal. Without this bound, the null imaginary image does not by itself establish the claimed limit.
  2. [Table I and fit procedure] The paper reports the fit result f4+5 = (-8.8 +/- 6.7) x 10^-10 and lists parameter uncertainties in Table I, but it does not explain how the parameter errors are combined with the statistical uncertainty of the maximum-likelihood fit, nor does it state which errors are included in the final quoted uncertainty. In particular, the uncertainty on the phase-error leakage discussed above is not included, and no total systematic error is given. Please state the likelihood function, the treatment of parameter uncertainties, and the final statistical and systematic contributions separately; this is needed to assess whether the reported 95% limit is robust.
minor comments (4)
  1. [Abstract] The phrase 'used to measured the force' in the abstract should read 'used to measure the force'.
  2. [End Matter] The procedure for defining t' from the measured x(t) is not fully specified. Please state how t' is computed from the fitted Fourier coefficients, and discuss the uniqueness and monotonicity conditions of the mapping, since a non-monotonic x(t) would make the reparametrization ambiguous.
  3. [Fig. 3] The caption says the numbers at the corners are the standard deviations of the entire image, but only the values for the imaginary images are visible in the text. For completeness, report the standard deviations of the real images as well, since they quantify the periodic background that the imaginary-quadrature rejection is meant to suppress.
  4. [Table I] The entries 'FeCo width W1' and 'FeCo width W2' should be defined explicitly in the text or in the Fig. 1 caption, since the two widths are not identified in the main text.

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity: the coupling constant is a fitted scale factor against an independently derived model pattern, and self-citations are methodological, not load-bearing.

full rationale

The paper's central chain is self-contained in the relevant sense. The exotic force model in Eq. (1) is an external theoretical input, not defined in terms of the measured images. Equation (2) predicts the complex 10th-harmonic signal from Fourier decomposition and Bessel-function kinematics, with the coupling constant appearing only as a multiplicative scale factor that is then fit by maximum likelihood; the null extraction f4+5 = (-8.8 +/- 6.7) x 10^-10 is therefore a fit of a scale parameter to a predicted pattern, not a fitted input renamed as a prediction. The real/imaginary demodulation separation in End Matter Eqs. (4)-(5) is a systematic-assumption about phase alignment, and the paper provides an explicit calibration procedure (t' reparameterization, residual-potential variation in Fig. 3, reference images at far distance) rather than assuming the conclusion. To the extent that residual real-to-imaginary leakage is a concern, that is a correctness or systematics issue, not a circularity, because the leakage claim is not equivalent to the fitted coupling by construction. Self-citations to Refs. [32]-[34] concern the experimental scheme, demodulation procedure, and spring-constant calibration; none imports a uniqueness theorem or smuggles in the null result, and the final limits are compared against independent external constraints from Refs. [28]-[31]. No step reduces to its own input, so the appropriate circularity score is 0.

Assumptions & free parameters 1 free parameters · 3 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The experiment introduces no new theoretical entities or free parameters beyond the coupling constant under test. The list above captures the fitted parameter and the domain assumptions from theory and measurement that the limit depends on.

free parameters (1)
  • f4+5 coupling constant = (-8.8 +/- 6.7) x 10^-10 at lambda=2.1 um
    Extracted by maximum likelihood fit of the predicted force pattern to the measured imaginary-force image (section 'Since we observe no signature...'). The central limit is derived from this fit and its uncertainty.
assumptions (3)
  • domain assumption The exotic interaction potential has the form of Eq. (1), V(r) = -f4+5 hbar^2/(8 pi m_e c) [sigma dot (v x rhat)] (1/(lambda r) + 1/r^2) e^{-r/lambda}.
    Adopted from theoretical literature (Refs. [18,19]); the limits are model-dependent and apply only if this potential describes the new interaction.
  • domain assumption The spin source can be modeled as a periodic array of FeCo stripes with a known, uniform spin density (1.41 +/- 0.04) x 10^29 m^-3 and rectangular hysteresis (remnant magnetization 94% of saturation).
    Used to compute the expected force on the gold sphere; relies on measured magnetic properties and stripe geometry (Fig. 1(d), Table I).
  • domain assumption The time-redefinition procedure makes the source motion a single cosine x(t') = x0' + A_d cos(2 pi f_d t') with residual phase error less than 1 mrad, so the Bessel-function expansion in Eq. (2) is valid and the velocity-dependent force appears purely in the imaginary part.
    This is the load-bearing experimental separation; if violated, the imaginary image could contain position-dependent leakage, biasing the limit (End Matter).

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abstract

Searching for the exotic interactions beyond the Standard Model of particle physics may solve some of the current puzzles in physics. Here the authors experimentally explore a spin- and velocity-dependent exotic interaction between the nucleons in a gold sphere and the electrons in a spin source in the micrometer range. The microfabricated spin source provides periodically varying spin density of electrons, resulting in a periodic exotic field. A cantilever glued with a gold sphere is used to measured the force acting on the gold sphere by the spin source. The spin source is driven to oscillate, and then the imaginary part of the signal is extracted at the 10th harmonic of the oscillation frequency, which effectively separates the exotic interaction from the spurious forces commonly present in such short-range measurements. No signal of the exotic interaction is observed, then new limits on the coupling constant are set in an interaction range below 10 $\mu$m, with $f_{4+5} \le 2.2\times 10^{-9}$ at 2.1 $\mu$m.

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