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arxiv: 2606.24872 · v1 · pith:LKEJW6XEnew · submitted 2026-06-23 · 🧮 math.NT

The Sylow Divisor Condition: a Resolution of ErdH{o}s Problem 768

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keywords Erdős Problem 768Sylow divisor conditionasymptotic densitylarge sievedivisor momentscanonical witness divisorsmultiplicative sieve
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The density A(x)/x of integers satisfying the Sylow divisor condition equals exp(-(1/(2√(log 2))+o(1)) √(log x) log log x).

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The paper proves the exact asymptotic for the count A(x) of integers n ≤ x such that every prime p dividing n has a divisor d > 1 with d ≡ 1 mod p. Erdős asked whether this density takes the form exp(-(c+o(1))√(log x) log log x) for some c > 0; the work shows the constant is precisely 1/(2√(log 2)). The lower bound is derived from a fourth-moment argument on primes in disjoint logarithmic intervals that employs the multiplicative large sieve and a subset-product second moment. The upper bound is obtained by constructing canonical witness divisors, building a deterministic compression map on them, and proving an injective reconstruction theorem for the map's fibers while controlling growing divisor moments.

Core claim

We resolve Erdős Problem 768 by showing that log(x/A(x)) / (√(log x) log log x) tends to 1/(2√(log 2)), where A(x) counts n ≤ x such that for every prime p dividing n there exists a divisor d > 1 of n with d ≡ 1 mod p. The lower bound is obtained from primes in disjoint logarithmic intervals using a fourth-moment argument based on the multiplicative large sieve and a subset-product second moment. The upper bound uses canonical witness divisors, a deterministic compression map, an injective reconstruction theorem for its fibers, and growing divisor moments.

What carries the argument

Canonical witness divisors together with the deterministic compression map and its injective reconstruction theorem for fibers, used to control growing divisor moments.

Load-bearing premise

The upper bound depends on the existence of an injective reconstruction theorem for the fibers of the deterministic compression map constructed from canonical witness divisors.

What would settle it

Direct enumeration of A(x) for x around exp(100) and checking whether log(x/A(x)) divided by √(log x) log log x stabilizes near 1/(2√(log 2)) would confirm or refute the exact constant.

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We resolve Erd\H{o}s Problem 768. Let $A(x)$ count the positive integers $n\le x$ such that, for every prime $p\mid n$, there is a divisor $d>1$ of $n$ with $d\equiv 1 \pmod p$. Erd\H{o}s asked whether $A(x)/x=\exp(-(c+o(1))\sqrt{\log x}\log\log x)$ for some constant $c>0$. We prove that this holds with $c=1/(2\sqrt{\log 2})$; equivalently, $\log(x/A(x))/(\sqrt{\log x}\log\log x)$ tends to $1/(2\sqrt{\log 2})$. The lower bound is obtained from primes in disjoint logarithmic intervals using a fourth-moment argument based on the multiplicative large sieve and a subset-product second moment. The upper bound uses canonical witness divisors, a deterministic compression map, an injective reconstruction theorem for its fibers, and growing divisor moments. Thus the paper determines the exact leading constant in Erd\H{o}s Problem 768.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper claims to resolve Erdős Problem 768 by showing that if A(x) counts n ≤ x such that for every prime p | n there exists a divisor d > 1 of n with d ≡ 1 (mod p), then A(x)/x = exp(−(c + o(1))√(log x) log log x) with the precise constant c = 1/(2√(log 2)). Equivalently, log(x/A(x))/(√(log x) log log x) → 1/(2√(log 2)). The lower bound is derived from primes in disjoint logarithmic intervals via a fourth-moment argument using the multiplicative large sieve and subset-product second moment; the upper bound is obtained via canonical witness divisors, a deterministic compression map, an injective reconstruction theorem for its fibers, and control of growing divisor moments.

Significance. If the upper-bound argument is complete, the result supplies the exact leading constant in the asymptotic for this divisor condition, thereby settling a problem posed by Erdős. The lower-bound method is independent and relies on standard sieve tools; the matching constant on the upper side would constitute a strong resolution.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract (upper-bound paragraph): The claimed matching constant c = 1/(2√(log 2)) on the upper side rests entirely on the existence of an 'injective reconstruction theorem for its fibers' of the deterministic compression map built from canonical witness divisors. This step is described as controlling growing divisor moments, yet the abstract supplies no statement of the theorem, no hypotheses on the fibers, and no indication of how injectivity is proved. Because this is the sole mechanism cited for obtaining the precise leading constant, the claim cannot be assessed without the details of this reconstruction.
  2. [Abstract] Abstract (lower-bound paragraph): The fourth-moment argument via the multiplicative large sieve and subset-product second moment is presented as yielding the matching lower bound. While the method is standard, the abstract does not indicate the precise range of the logarithmic intervals or the error terms that would be needed to reach exactly the constant 1/(2√(log 2)); verification of the constant therefore requires the explicit estimates in the body of the paper.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the careful reading of our manuscript. We address the two major comments point by point below. The abstract provides a high-level outline of the methods used to obtain the matching constant; the complete statements, hypotheses, and proofs appear in the body of the paper, which is the standard format for such results.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract (upper-bound paragraph): The claimed matching constant c = 1/(2√(log 2)) on the upper side rests entirely on the existence of an 'injective reconstruction theorem for its fibers' of the deterministic compression map built from canonical witness divisors. This step is described as controlling growing divisor moments, yet the abstract supplies no statement of the theorem, no hypotheses on the fibers, and no indication of how injectivity is proved. Because this is the sole mechanism cited for obtaining the precise leading constant, the claim cannot be assessed without the details of this reconstruction.

    Authors: The abstract summarizes the upper-bound strategy at a high level. The injective reconstruction theorem for the fibers of the deterministic compression map (including all hypotheses on the fibers and the proof that injectivity follows from control of growing divisor moments) is stated as Theorem 4.2 and proved in full in Section 4 of the manuscript, together with the supporting lemmas on canonical witness divisors. This is the standard division between abstract and body in number-theoretic papers; the referee can assess the constant directly from those sections. revision: no

  2. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract (lower-bound paragraph): The fourth-moment argument via the multiplicative large sieve and subset-product second moment is presented as yielding the matching lower bound. While the method is standard, the abstract does not indicate the precise range of the logarithmic intervals or the error terms that would be needed to reach exactly the constant 1/(2√(log 2)); verification of the constant therefore requires the explicit estimates in the body of the paper.

    Authors: The abstract likewise summarizes the lower-bound method. The precise ranges of the disjoint logarithmic intervals and the explicit error terms arising from the multiplicative large sieve and the subset-product second-moment calculation are derived in Section 3; the interval choices are calibrated exactly so that the resulting lower bound produces the constant 1/(2√(log 2)) with the stated o(1) error. revision: no

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; derivation self-contained against external benchmarks

full rationale

The provided abstract and description show the constant 1/(2√(log 2)) emerging from independent lower-bound sieve arguments (fourth-moment multiplicative large sieve plus subset-product second moment on primes in logarithmic intervals) and upper-bound estimates via canonical witness divisors plus an injective reconstruction theorem on compression-map fibers. No quoted equation reduces the claimed limit or constant to a fitted parameter, self-citation chain, or definitional renaming. The reconstruction theorem is presented as a new proof step rather than an input assumption that encodes the target result. This meets the criteria for a self-contained derivation with no load-bearing circular steps.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The abstract does not introduce new free parameters or invented entities; the constant is presented as derived from the sieve and moment arguments rather than fitted. Standard analytic number theory tools are invoked but not listed as ad-hoc axioms here.

axioms (1)
  • standard math Multiplicative large sieve inequality and related moment estimates hold in the stated form
    Invoked for the fourth-moment argument on primes in disjoint intervals for the lower bound.

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