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Enrichment of the Galactic disc with neutron-capture elements: Mo and Ru
T0 review · 3 major / 5 minor · reviewed 2026-08-14 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read New measurements of molybdenum and ruthenium in 209 and 162 Galactic disc stars show that present chemical evolution models underproduce both elements at all disc metallicities, pointing to a missing nucleosynthesis source such as LEPP…
desk verdict First extended disc sample of Mo and Ru is a useful observational step, but the claimed underproduction for Mo is sensitive to an unvalidated gf zero-point tied to an external solar reference. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The observational machinery is LTE spectral synthesis of two Mo I lines (5506, 5533 Å) and three Ru I lines (4080, 4584, 4757 Å) in high-resolution, high-signal-to-noise disc-star spectra, yielding abundances for 209 and 162 stars respectively with an average error of 0.14 dex. The theoretical machinery is a suite of Galactic chemical evolution (GCE) simulations, including a two-zone open-source model, that fold in stellar yields from AGB stars, massive stars, supernovae, and r-process events. The comparison works by plotting $\mathrm{[Mo/Fe]}$ and $\mathrm{[Ru/Fe]}$ against $\mathrm{[Fe/H]}$ and overlaying model evolution tracks, which exposes the systematic underproduction. The paper also uses the isotopic decomposition of Mo and Ru (p-only, s-only, and r-only isotopes) as a diagnostic for which processes would need to be added, notably LEPP, the lighter-element primary process, and the i-process, an intermediate neutron-capture process.
What would settle it
Compute non-LTE corrections for the Mo I 5506/5533 Å and Ru I 4080/4584/4757 Å lines across the stellar parameter range of the sample ($-1.0 < \mathrm{[Fe/H]} < +0.3$, $T_{\mathrm{eff}} \sim 4600$–$6200$ K) using updated atomic data, and re-derive the disc abundances; if the corrected $\mathrm{[Mo/Fe]}$ and $\mathrm{[Ru/Fe]}$ values at the metal-poor end shift up by more than about 0.2 dex, the model underproduction claimed here could be a measurement artifact rather than a missing nucleosynthesis source.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The paper's central claim is that the canonical stellar sources of heavy elements—AGB stars making the main s-process, massive stars making the weak s-process, neutron-star mergers or magneto-rotational supernovae making the r-process, and explosive p-process sites—do not produce enough molybdenum and ruthenium to match what is observed in Galactic disc stars. Even the most Mo-rich and Ru-rich GCE simulations, including those that add a LEPP component or vary the timing of r-process enrichment, remain below the data at essentially all metallicities in the disc. The paper further shows that Mo and Ru do not correlate tightly with each other in disc stars, while Ru scatters more against Ba and Eu, suggesting that Ru is substantially produced by an extra source that is probably not an s-process source because Mo and Ru receive similar s-process contributions. The conclusion is that the origin of Mo and Ru remains open, and that new stellar sites or processes must be added to chemical evolution calculations.
Load-bearing premise
The load-bearing assumption is that the Mo I and Ru I lines are formed under local thermodynamic equilibrium (LTE), so that the missing non-LTE corrections are small and cancel when the abundances are measured relative to the Sun; if those corrections grow with metallicity, the reported underproduction could shrink or disappear.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- Current GCE simulations need an additional source of Mo and Ru beyond main and weak s-process, standard r-process, and p-process to match disc observations.
- The decoupling of Ru from Mo, Ba, and Eu implies that the extra Ru source must produce ruthenium without proportionally enriching molybdenum, which rules out a simple scaled s-process enhancement.
- At $\mathrm{[Fe/H]} < -0.2$, the timing of r-process enrichment (short delay versus a $t^{-1}$ delay distribution) changes predicted Mo and Ru levels, so these elements become new constraints on the delay times of neutron-star mergers.
- The large scatter in $\mathrm{[Mo/Eu]}$ and $\mathrm{[Mo/Fe]}$ at low metallicity supports enrichment by rare, stochastic events rather than by numerous ordinary supernovae, motivating inhomogeneous GCE studies.
- Mo and Ru abundances in disc stars can serve as a test bed for proposed sites such as the i-process in post-AGB stars or rare stellar events, because each makes a distinct isotopic signature.
Reading between the lines
- A natural extension not explored in the paper is to apply non-LTE corrections to the same lines; if those corrections are metallicity-dependent, the slope of $\mathrm{[Mo/Fe]}$ versus $\mathrm{[Fe/H]}$ would change and might erase part of the claimed shortfall.
- The paper's logic implies that isotopic abundance patterns in meteorites or presolar grains (for example anomalies in $^{95}$Mo or $^{97}$Mo) could discriminate between an i-process and a LEPP origin for the missing Mo, since each process leaves a different isotope fingerprint.
- The same LTE spectral-synthesis approach is commonly used for the neighbouring first-peak elements Sr, Y, and Zr; if non-LTE effects matter for Mo I and Ru I, they may also bias those elements, so the missing-source puzzle could extend across the whole first peak.
- A testable extension would be to measure Mo and Ru in dwarf galaxies with similar metallicity spread; because their star-formation histories differ from the disc, they would separate contributions from prompt massive-star and delayed merger r-process sources.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper presents new LTE abundances of molybdenum and ruthenium for 209 and 162 F-, G-, and K-type stars in the Galactic disc, derived from two Mo I and three Ru I lines. The authors report [Mo/Fe] and [Ru/Fe] trends over -1.0 < [Fe/H] < +0.3, compare these with literature data for halo stars, and juxtapose the combined dataset with published Galactic chemical evolution models (Prantzos et al. 2018, Travaglio et al. 2004, and OMEGA+ models). Their central claim, stated in Section 5, is that existing GCE models with standard s-process, r-process, and p-process sources underproduce Mo and Ru in the Galactic disc, implying additional nucleosynthesis contributions such as LEPP, the i-process, or rare stellar events.
Significance. If the abundance scale is secure, this is a valuable observational contribution: it provides the first extended disc sample for Mo and Ru, cross-checks stellar parameters against nine literature studies, gives per-star and systematic errors, and compares with several independent GCE model sets without fitting any model parameters to the new data. The conclusion that standard nucleosynthesis sources underproduce Mo and Ru is a falsifiable constraint on r-process sites, LEPP, and the i-process. The main caveat, discussed below, is that the absolute zero-point of the [Mo/Fe] and [Ru/Fe] measurements is not independently validated, and this zero-point enters directly into the claimed discrepancy.
major comments (3)
- [Section 3, Section 4, Table 3, Figs. 7-8] The central underproduction claim depends on the absolute zero-point of [Mo/Fe] and [Ru/Fe]. The abundances are derived using log gf values from the VALD database and normalized to the external solar abundances of Asplund et al. (2009), but the Sun is not analyzed with the same lines and gf values in this paper. A uniform error of 0.1-0.2 dex in the adopted gf therefore does not cancel in the solar-relative normalization and shifts all stellar [Mo/Fe] and [Ru/Fe] values directly. The reported discrepancies are about 0.1 dex for Mo and 0.2-0.4 dex for Ru (bottom panels of Figs. 7 and 8), so a zero-point offset of this size could substantially reduce or remove the discrepancy, especially for Mo. The error budget in Table 3 includes atmospheric-parameter and fitting errors but omits gf uncertainty. Please add a solar analysis using the same lines and gf values, or an equivalent independent calibration, and propagate the resulting zero-point uncertainty into the GCE comparison.
- [Section 4 and Section 5] The paper states that no NLTE calculations for Mo or Ru are currently available and argues that NLTE corrections should be negligible and 'leveled using our analysis relative to the Sun.' Because the paper does not actually analyze the Sun, the leveling argument is not demonstrated from the presented data. Neutral-species NLTE effects can be metallicity- and temperature-dependent, and if they vary by ~0.1 dex across the sample, the shape of the [X/Fe] trends and the magnitude of the underproduction could change. I request either a quantitative estimate of possible NLTE corrections for these lines or a clear statement, with supporting line-formation arguments, of why the corrections should be constant across the sample. This is important because the conclusion in Section 5 explicitly relies on the LTE-based discrepancy.
- [Section 3.1, Table 3] The systematic error budget is estimated from only two stars, HD154345 and HD82106, which have similar parameters (Teff around 5500 K and 4800 K, both near solar metallicity). The sample spans Teff from about 4400 to 6200 K and [Fe/H] down to about -1.0, and line-formation sensitivity can vary across this range. A two-star estimate may not capture the systematic uncertainty for the cooler or more metal-poor stars. This does not invalidate the main claim, but the stated 'average error of 0.14 dex' should be presented as a lower bound, or the error analysis should be extended to a wider parameter range.
minor comments (5)
- [Section 4, Table 4] The text says that for HD 22879 'our upper limit for [Ru/Fe] is consistent' with Hansen et al. (2014), but Table 4 lists ours as >0.51, which is a lower limit, not an upper limit. Please correct the wording or the symbol.
- [Table A2 and Section 2] Table A2 shows individual atmospheric-parameter differences as large as Delta(Teff) = -380 K and Delta([Fe/H]) = -0.39 for HD 224930 when compared with Takeda (2007). The general statement of 'good agreement' should be qualified or these outliers discussed, since they are larger than the nominal parameter uncertainties.
- [Figure 7 caption] The caption describes the OMEGA+ curves as 'marked with black dot, dashed and solid line'; the wording is ambiguous. Please specify which line style corresponds to the short-delay-time and delay-time-distribution setups as in the legend.
- [Abstract and Section 3.1] The abstract states an average error of 0.14 dex, while Section 3.1 reports a range of 0.12 to 0.16 dex for Ru and Mo. Please define the abstract value as the average of the quoted range or give per-element average errors.
- [Section 3] The adopted line list for the five Mo I and Ru I lines is not tabulated. For reproducibility, please provide the wavelengths, excitation potentials, and log gf values for the lines used, along with the line-list source version.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity found: the observational abundances are new data, and the GCE comparison relies on external models, with the authors' own OMEGA+ runs corroborated by independent simulations.
full rationale
The paper's central claim is that existing GCE simulations underproduce Mo and Ru relative to new stellar observations. The derivation chain is observational: LTE spectral synthesis with VALD oscillator strengths and the Asplund et al. (2009) solar reference is used to obtain [Mo/Fe] and [Ru/Fe], and these are then compared with published GCE predictions. No parameter is fitted to the observed Mo/Ru data and then renamed a prediction; the nucleosynthesis yields and GCE codes are external inputs. The OMEGA+ models are co-authored by some of the present authors, but the same underproduction conclusion is also shown for the independent Prantzos et al. (2018) and Travaglio et al. (2004) models, so the central result is not forced by self-citation. The paper's own caveats about LTE and the absence of NLTE corrections, and the fact that the error budget omits oscillator-strength zero-point uncertainties, are legitimate accuracy concerns, but they are not circularity: an assumed systematic offset in the absolute abundance scale would weaken the comparison, not make the model output equivalent to the input. The Mo/Ru abundance correlations and scatter analyses are also independent observational characterizations rather than derivations from the models. Therefore no circular step can be exhibited from the paper's equations or references.
Assumptions & free parameters
assumptions (4)
- domain assumption LTE line formation and negligible NLTE corrections for the Mo I and Ru I lines used
- domain assumption Adopted solar abundances log A(Mo)=1.88 and log A(Ru)=1.75 from Asplund et al. (2009)
- domain assumption Stellar atmospheric parameters from earlier papers by the same group are accurate within stated errors
- domain assumption GCE yields from Cristallo et al. (2015), Ritter et al. (2018c), and Iwamoto et al. (1999) are representative of the true nucleosynthesis sources
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Pith. "Pith review of Enrichment of the Galactic disc with neutron-capture elements: Mo and Ru." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/NDB3DBTM
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abstract
We present new observational data for the heavy elements molybdenum (Mo, Z = 42) and ruthenium (Ru, Z = 44) in F-, G-, and K-stars belonging to different substructures of the Milky Way. The range of metallicity covered is --1.0 $<$ [Fe/H] $<$ +0.3. The spectra of Galactic disc stars have a high resolution of 42,000 and 75,000 and signal-to-noise ratio better than 100. Mo and Ru abundances were derived by comparing the observed and synthetic spectra in the region of Mo I lines at 5506, 5533 \AA~ for 209 stars and Ru I lines at 4080, 4584, 4757 \AA~ for 162 stars using the LTE approach. For all the stars, the Mo and Ru abundance determinations are obtained for the first time with an average error of 0.14 dex. This is the first extended sample of stellar observations for Mo and Ru in the Milky Way disc, and together with earlier observations in halo stars it is pivotal in providing a complete picture of the evolution of Mo and Ru across cosmic timescales. The Mo and Ru abundances were compared with those of the neutron-capture elements (Sr, Y, Zr, Ba, Sm, Eu). The complex nucleosynthesis history of Mo and Ru is compared with different Galactic Chemical Evolution (GCE) simulations. In general, present theoretical GCE simulations show underproduction of Mo and Ru at all metallicities compared to observations. This highlights a significant contribution of nucleosynthesis processes not yet considered in our simulations. A number of possible scenarios are discussed.
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