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Erd\H{o}s-P\'osa property of rooted tree minors
T0 review · 0 major / 5 minor · reviewed 2026-08-01 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read Rooted tree minors satisfy a linear Erdős–Pósa property
desk verdict Linear Erdős-Pósa for rooted tree minors is real and the proof holds up; the main dependency is a standard pathwidth black box, not the result itself. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The engine is the family C_t(G,S): C_0 consists of single vertices of S, and each larger level joins three vertex-disjoint members of C_{t-1} by three paths in one of two configurations. Lemma 5 proves every member of C_t contains an S-rooted model of every t-vertex tree, so packing or hitting C_t is equivalent to the root-minor problem. Two supporting results carry the linear constant: a rooted Erdős–Pósa statement for the basic trees K3 and K1,3 (Lemma 9), and a pathwidth lemma that guarantees C_t is nonempty once pw(G,S) is large, using an excluded-rooted-forest pathwidth bound. The recursion in t then yields the linear function h(t).
What would settle it
Compute pw(G,S) for small graphs with no S-rooted model of a 4-vertex path: the theorem says every such instance has pw(G,S) ≤ 6, so a single example with pathwidth 7 or more disproves the black-box theorem on which the proof rests. For the theorem itself, exhaustive search over small graphs for t=2,3 and k=2,3 can test the claimed dichotomy with the paper's explicit g(t) values.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The central discovery is that adding rootedness does not spoil the linear Erdős–Pósa behaviour of tree minors: for every t there is a number g(t) such that, in every graph G with a distinguished set S, the family of S-rooted models of T is either large enough to pack k disjoint copies or small enough to be destroyed by g(t)k vertices. The bound on the hitting-set size is best possible as a function of k. The proof constructs a nested family C_t(G,S) of subgraphs that force rooted models of all t-vertex trees and shows recursively that either k disjoint members can be found or a hitting set of size h(t)k exists. A separate argument converts this into the theorem, and then into the forest gene
Load-bearing premise
The load-bearing premise is the previously proved excluded-forest pathwidth theorem — if a graph has no S-rooted model of a forest F then pw(G,S) ≤ 2|V(F)|−2 — which is invoked without proof; should it fail, the main proof loses its engine.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- For every fixed tree T, the rooted Erdős–Pósa function is linear in k, so the qualitative behaviour matches the unrooted tree-minor theorem.
- The classical S-path theorem (T=K2) follows as a special case, giving an alternative route to Gallai's packing–covering theorem for S-paths.
- The earlier quadratic bound for rooted tree minors is superseded by a linear one.
- The partially rooted forest version supplies the same linear guarantee when only some branch sets need roots, interpolating between rooted and unrooted models.
- For paths the bound is improved to (ℓ²−1)(k−1) and for stars to 21ℓ(k−1), both independent of the general fast-growing g(t).
Reading between the lines
- Because the proof's engine treats pathwidth as the obstruction, the C_t hierarchy may yield a practical approximation algorithm for rooted pathwidth: one could try to find k disjoint members or an approximate hitting set without computing an optimal decomposition.
- The unrooted case S=V(G) gets a proof distinct from the two earlier linear proofs; this new machinery might be adapted to recover the optimal unrooted bound t(k−1) without the earlier separation-based arguments.
- The conjecture that |V(F)|(k−1) suffices for every forest and root-requirement pair is the natural next test; the path and star results are consistency checks but do not reach the general bound.
- Since the proof leans on a single externally supplied pathwidth theorem, replacing that black box by a self-contained proof — or finding a counterexample — would either strengthen the paper's independence or reveal a limitation. This is an editorial observation, not a paper claim.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper proves Theorem 1: for every t-vertex tree T there is a function g(t) such that for every graph G, every S⊆V(G), and every k, either G contains k vertex-disjoint S-rooted models of T, or there is a set X of at most g(t)k vertices hitting all S-rooted models of T. This improves the earlier O(k^2) bound of Hodor, La, Micek, and Rambaud and generalizes Gallai's S-path theorem. The main device is a hierarchy C_t(G,S) of subgraphs; Theorem 11 gives a linear packing/covering statement for C_t by induction on t. The proof uses two external results from [9]: the rooted pathwidth bound of Theorem 3 and the bounded-treewidth hitting lemma of Lemma 4. The paper also derives Theorem 2 for forests with partially rooted models and gives improved bounds for paths (quadratic) and stars (linear).
Significance. If correct, this is a substantial advance: rooted tree minors inherit the linear Erdős–Pósa behavior known for unrooted tree minors, and the proof is genuinely different from the two earlier unrooted proofs [5,7]. The auxiliary packing/covering lemma for rooted K3 and rooted K1,3 (Lemma 9) and the (F,R)-model generalization are useful in their own right. The induction in Theorem 11 is intricate but internally coherent, and the explicit recurrence for h(t) is a strength. The main caveat is the black-box use of Theorem 3 from [9]; it is a standard excluded-minor/pathwidth theorem and not circular with the target result, but the proof would collapse if that theorem failed. I found no internal flaw threatening the central claim.
minor comments (5)
- [Section 2, Lemma 5(b)] In Case (C2), the text says 'the union of M1, M2 with the new branch set B'. The subgraph M1 is never defined; the intended sentence appears to be 'the union of M2 and M3 with the new branch set B'. Please correct this typo.
- [Section 3, Lemma 6] The proof ends with 'A straightforward induction on t then shows that C_t(G,S)≠∅'. Since Lemma 6 is used in Lemma 7 and again in the proof of Theorem 1, this step is load-bearing. Please spell out the induction, in particular how an S-rooted model of the complete ternary tree of height t yields an element of C_t(G,S), and how the two cases (C1)/(C2) in the definition of C_t arise. I believe the statement is true, but the one-line proof is too terse.
- [Section 3, Claim 15] As written, the family H={G[V(P_a)∪V(Q)] : Q∈Q_j, a∈[i(j),i(j+1)-1]} does not have the asserted pairwise-intersection property: two members corresponding to different paths Q are vertex-disjoint because the Q_j paths are pairwise disjoint. The intended family appears to be {G[V(Q)∪⋃_{a∈[i(j),i(j+1)-1]}V(P_a)] : Q∈Q_j}. Please correct the display and the sentence 'these subgraphs pairwise intersect'.
- [Section 4, proof of Theorem 2] The line 'there is a set X1⊆V(G−Z0)' should read 'X1⊆V(G−X0)'.
- [Throughout] There are several small typos: 'at least one the following' before Theorem 11, 'G−Xhas notS-rooted ofK_{1,ℓ}' in Theorem 24, and 'Erdős-Pósa proper ty' in the header. A careful proofreading pass would be worthwhile.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: the main induction is genuinely self-contained; the cited results from [9] are structural pathwidth/treewidth lemmas that do not assume the target Erdős–Pósa bound.
full rationale
The proof of Theorem 1 proceeds through Theorem 11, an induction on t about the recursively defined classes C_t(G,S). Every ingredient in that induction is either proved in the paper (Lemma 5, Lemma 8, Lemma 9, Lemma 19, Claim 14, etc.) or is a standard black box: Theorem 3 from [9] says that a graph with no S-rooted model of a forest F has pw(G,S) ≤ 2|V(F)|−2, and Lemma 4 from [9] is a bounded-treewidth packing/covering statement. Neither of these is the linear Erdős–Pósa bound being proved; Theorem 3 has no k parameter and no separator-size conclusion, and Lemma 4 only applies under a treewidth bound tw(G,S)<w. Although [9] shares an author with this paper, the assumptions of these cited results do not include the target result, so under the review rules they are real evidence rather than circularity. Lemma 6 merely converts the external pathwidth bound into existence of a C_t member; Lemma 5 is proved in full; Lemma 9 is an explicit proof of the rooted K3/K1,3 base case. No fitted parameters are renamed as predictions, no uniqueness theorem is imported, and no step is equal by construction to its input. Therefore the derivation chain is self-contained (modulo independent published lemmas), and there is no circular step.
Assumptions & free parameters
assumptions (5)
- domain assumption Hodor et al. Theorem 7: if G has no S-rooted model of forest F then pw(G,S) ≤ 2|V(F)|−2
- domain assumption Corollary of Hodor et al. Lemma 23: if tw(G,S)<w and G has no k vertex-disjoint S-rooted models of a connected H, then a set of at most w(k−1) vertices hits every such model
- domain assumption Diestel's path-width lemma: large pathwidth yields a separation with a rooted tree model on one side
- standard math Menger's theorem
- standard math Helly property of intervals
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Pith. "Pith review of Erd\H{o}s-P\'osa property of rooted tree minors." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/OCDHPIVL
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abstract
Fiorini, Joret, and Wood (2013) showed that tree minors satisfy the so-called Erd\H{o}s-P\'osa property with a linear bound: For every tree $T$ there exists a constant $c \geq 1$ such that, for every graph $G$ and integer $k\geq 0$, either $G$ contains $k$ vertex-disjoint subgraphs each containing a $T$-minor, or $G$ has a set $X$ of at most $c k$ vertices such that $G-X$ has no $T$-minor. In this paper, we prove that the same result remains true if, given a subset $S$ of vertices of $G$, one only considers $T$-minors of $G$ that are rooted in $S$. Here, a $T$-minor is rooted in $S$ if there is a minor-model of $T$ where each branch set contains a vertex from $S$. This result can be seen as a generalization of the classical $S$-Path Theorem of Gallai, which corresponds to the case $T=K_2$. The upper bound on the size of $X$ is best possible up to the value of the constant $c$, and improves on an earlier $O(k^2)$ bound due to Hodor, La, Micek, and Rambaud (2026).
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