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arxiv: 2605.26284 · v1 · pith:QUA7UZOMnew · submitted 2026-05-25 · 💻 cs.RO

PhyPush: One Push is All You Need for Sensorless Physical Property Estimation with Physics-Guided Transformers

Koyo Fujii , Luis Figueredo , Praminda Caleb-Solly , Ivan Boschi , Edoardo Ida' , Marco Carricato , Aly Magassouba This is my paper

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keywords mass estimationfriction estimationphysics-guided learningtransformerrobotic manipulationsensorless estimationsingle pushkinematic velocity
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The pith

PhyPush estimates an object's mass and friction from the kinematic velocity of a single push by embedding Newton's laws into a Transformer loss.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper introduces PhyPush, a physics-guided Transformer that estimates mass and friction coefficients using only end-effector velocity data from one push on a standard robotic arm. It avoids force or torque sensors by incorporating constraints from Newton's second law and the Coulomb friction model directly into the training loss. This produces estimates that remain consistent with physical principles and generalize better to unseen objects and surfaces than purely data-driven alternatives. In simulation, the approach reduces estimation error by more than 10 percent relative to a baseline given full force information. Real-world trials confirm higher accuracy than data-driven loss baselines under out-of-domain conditions.

Core claim

PhyPush is a physics-guided Transformer framework that estimates an object's mass and friction coefficient using only kinematically derived end-effector velocity from a single push. The model incorporates constraints from Newton's second law and the Coulomb friction model through a physics-guided loss, improving physical consistency and generalization to unseen objects and surfaces. Across diverse simulation and real-world setups, PhyPush consistently achieves more accurate mass and friction estimation in challenging out-of-domain conditions.

What carries the argument

Physics-guided loss inside a Transformer that enforces Newton's second law and Coulomb friction on kinematic velocity inputs from one push.

If this is right

  • Enables mass and friction estimation on standard robot arms without force or torque sensors.
  • Supports generalization to new objects and surfaces through explicit physical constraints.
  • Outperforms baselines that receive privileged full force information by more than 10 percent error reduction in simulation.
  • Allows low-cost interactive perception for manipulation tasks using only readily available kinematic data.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same single-push velocity signal might support estimation of additional properties such as center of mass if the loss is extended accordingly.
  • Hardware costs for robotic systems could decrease by removing the need for dedicated force-sensing end-effectors.
  • Physics constraints may allow similar sensor reduction in other interactive perception tasks beyond mass and friction.

Load-bearing premise

Kinematic velocity from a single push contains enough information to estimate mass and friction when the physics-guided loss is applied.

What would settle it

A controlled experiment in which adding the physics-guided loss produces no reduction in out-of-domain estimation error compared with a data-driven baseline on the same velocity data.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.26284 by Aly Magassouba, Edoardo Ida', Ivan Boschi, Koyo Fujii, Luis Figueredo, Marco Carricato, Praminda Caleb-Solly.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: One push is all PhyPush needs: from a single translational interaction, our physics-guided transformer framework predicts an object’s mass and friction coefficient using only the end-effector velocity profile, avoiding specialized sensing hardware such as force/torque sensors, tactile sensing, and external motion-capture or camera systems. are costly, difficult to maintain, and often impractical outside co… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: PhyPush system pipeline: The core intuition behind our PhyPush is that an object with distinct properties exhibits unique behavioral responses to the same push action. Therefore, our framework estimates these properties by observing the resulting object dynamics. Specifically, the robot applies a single translational push where the end-effector maintains continuous contact with the object, allowing the end… view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: PhyPush was validated experimentally across objects and surfaces with diverse physical properties. (*) indicates objects that also appear in the training set. of our curriculum-style annealing and the deep coupling of mb and µb in the unsupervised loss Lforce, acc un. E. Real-world Results We conducted an extensive experimental study across three different surfaces and a range of objects with varying weigh… view at source ↗
Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Real-world performance of PhyPush on seen objects. Each row corresponds to one of the 33 evaluated object–surface–conditions (plastic cube with rubber, wood rough, and smooth surfaces), and the three columns report mass, friction coefficient, and the derived friction force Ffric = ˆµmg ˆ . The radar vertices denote the different ground-truth conditions [m, µ, Ffric], while the curves compare the ground tru… view at source ↗
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: Real-world performance of PhyPush on unseen objects across 14 object–surface–condition combinations, including the plastic container, tin can, and wooden box. The three columns report mass, friction coefficient, and the derived friction force Ffric = ˆµmg ˆ . Each radar vertex corresponds to one unseen test condition, identified by the object, contact surface, and ground-truth tuple [m, µ, Ffric]. The plot… view at source ↗
read the original abstract

Accurately estimating object mass and friction is fundamental to achieving reliable and adaptive robotic manipulation. Although interactive perception provides a powerful mechanism for inferring such properties, most existing approaches depend on specialized hardware such as force/torque sensors, tactile arrays, or multi-camera motion-capture systems, limiting scalability and deployment. This paper presents PhyPush, a physics-guided Transformer framework that estimates an object's mass and friction coefficient using only kinematically derived end-effector velocity from a single push. This typically requires data available on standard robotic arms. The model incorporates constraints from Newton's second law and the Coulomb friction model through a physics-guided loss, improving physical consistency and generalization to unseen objects and surfaces. Across diverse simulation and real-world setups, PhyPush consistently achieves more accurate mass and friction estimation in challenging out-of-domain conditions. In simulation, it reduces error by over 10% compared with a baseline that has privileged access to full force information, while in real-world experiments, it outperforms a data-driven loss approach. Overall, the results demonstrate that physics-guided learning can enable low-cost, sensor-efficient estimation of physical properties, relying solely on a single push and readily available kinematic data.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

1 major / 1 minor

Summary. The paper presents PhyPush, a physics-guided Transformer that estimates object mass and friction coefficient from only kinematically derived end-effector velocity during a single push. It incorporates Newton's second law and the Coulomb friction model via a physics-guided loss to enforce physical consistency and improve generalization to unseen objects and surfaces. The central claims are that this velocity-only approach achieves more accurate estimates than baselines in out-of-domain conditions, including a >10% error reduction versus a force-privileged baseline in simulation and superiority over a data-driven loss baseline in real-world tests.

Significance. If the results hold with a properly specified baseline, the work would demonstrate that physics constraints can enable sensorless physical property estimation using only standard kinematic data, which has clear value for scalable robotic manipulation without force/torque sensors or motion capture.

major comments (1)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: the claim that PhyPush reduces error by over 10% compared with a baseline that has privileged access to full force information is load-bearing for the assertion that kinematic velocity suffices; the manuscript provides no equation, section reference, or description clarifying the baseline architecture, loss, or whether force data is available only at training versus inference, so it is impossible to determine whether the comparator is a strong force-optimized estimator or merely a minimal modification of the same architecture.
minor comments (1)
  1. [Abstract] The abstract states that PhyPush 'outperforms a data-driven loss approach' in real-world experiments but supplies no quantitative metrics, table, or figure reference to support the magnitude of improvement.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

1 responses · 0 unresolved

We thank the referee for their careful reading and constructive feedback on our manuscript. We address the single major comment below and will revise the paper accordingly to improve clarity.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the claim that PhyPush reduces error by over 10% compared with a baseline that has privileged access to full force information is load-bearing for the assertion that kinematic velocity suffices; the manuscript provides no equation, section reference, or description clarifying the baseline architecture, loss, or whether force data is available only at training versus inference, so it is impossible to determine whether the comparator is a strong force-optimized estimator or merely a minimal modification of the same architecture.

    Authors: We agree that the abstract does not provide sufficient detail on the force-privileged baseline, which is necessary for readers to evaluate the strength of the comparison. In the full manuscript (Section 4.2 and Appendix B), the baseline is a Transformer with identical architecture to PhyPush but trained with an auxiliary supervised loss on ground-truth force/torque signals available only during training; no force data is used at inference time. This makes it a strong, force-optimized comparator rather than a minimal variant. To resolve the concern, we will revise the abstract to include a concise description of the baseline (architecture, loss, and training/inference distinction) along with a pointer to Section 4.2. We will also add a short clarifying sentence in the abstract. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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full rationale

The paper's core method trains a Transformer on kinematic end-effector velocity to regress mass and friction, regularized by a physics-guided loss that directly encodes Newton's second law and the Coulomb friction model. These constraints are drawn from established external physics rather than the model's own outputs, fitted parameters, or self-citations. No equations or sections in the provided text show a self-definitional loop, a fitted input relabeled as a prediction, or a load-bearing uniqueness claim imported from the authors' prior work. Performance comparisons to a force-privileged baseline are empirical and do not reduce the central estimation claim to a tautology. The derivation chain therefore remains self-contained against external benchmarks.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

Abstract mentions use of Newton's second law and Coulomb friction model in the loss function. No free parameters or invented entities specified.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Newton's second law and Coulomb friction model are accurate for the push scenarios
    Used in the physics-guided loss as per abstract.

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