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Eclipsing white dwarf from the Zwicky Transient Facility: II. Seven eclipsing double white dwarfs
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Pith's one-line read The paper discovers seven eclipsing double white dwarfs in ZTF data and reports the first measurement of non-zero eccentricity in a compact double white dwarf, based on 10-12 second delays of the secondary eclipse in two ~3-hour binaries.
desk verdict Seven new eclipsing double white dwarfs, a credible first eccentricity detection, and one embarrassing typo in Eq. (1). read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The load-bearing observable is the secondary-eclipse timing offset $\Delta t_2$. In a circular orbit the secondary eclipse sits at phase 0.5; a small offset is related to eccentricity by $\Delta t_e \approx (P/\pi)e\cos\omega$, and the relativistic light-travel-time (Rømer) delay $\Delta t_{LT} = (P K_1/\pi c)(1-q^{-1})$ must be subtracted first. The paper measures $\Delta t_2$ from high-speed, GPS-timed light curves and models the full binary, including eclipse shapes, archival photometry, Gaia parallax, and radial velocities, with the ellc code. For the two eccentric candidates the measured offsets are $12.7^{+1.2}_{-1.1}$ seconds and $10.5^{+0.8}_{-0.7}$ seconds. The same machinery yields a predicted precession rate from the formula of Gimenez (1985), turning the offset into a testable decade-scale prediction.
What would settle it
Repeated high-speed eclipse timing of ZTF J0238+0933 and ZTF J1758+7642 over the next decade: if the eccentricity interpretation is right, relativistic apsidal precession should make $\Delta t_2$ change by roughly $1.4$ seconds in ten years, oscillating on a period of approximately 460 years. A delay that stays constant at the one-second level, or drifts instead of oscillating, would rule out eccentricity as the cause and point to a third body or another offset.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
On the paper's own terms, the discovery is that two of the seven newly characterised eclipsing double white dwarfs, ZTF J0238+0933 and ZTF J1758+7642, have secondary eclipses arriving about 10 to 12 seconds later than phase 0.5. After subtracting the computed Rømer delay, which is small because the mass ratios are near unity, the paper interprets the residual offset as a small orbital eccentricity with $e\cos\omega \approx 2\times10^{-3}$. Because the longitude of periastron $\omega$ is not constrained, this is a lower limit on $e$ rather than a full eccentricity measurement. The paper states that this is the first time a non-zero eccentricity has been measured in a compact double white dwarf binary, and proposes that these systems emerged from the common envelope with this small eccentricity and have not yet been circularised by gravitational-wave emission. It further predicts that relativistic apsidal precession, at roughly $0.7$ degrees per year, will change the secondary-eclipse delay by about $1.4$ seconds within ten years.
Load-bearing premise
The load-bearing premise is that the 10 to 12 second late arrival of the secondary eclipse comes entirely from the orbit being slightly non-circular, once the small light-travel-time effect is removed; a third body or another timing shift would break this, and only the combination $e\cos\omega$ is actually measured.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- The two roughly 3-hour binaries retain $e\cos\omega \approx 2\times10^{-3}$, while the shorter-period systems are consistent with zero eccentricity, supporting the paper's conclusion that common-envelope ejection can leave a small eccentricity that gravitational waves have not yet erased in longer-period binaries.
- Relativistic apsidal precession at about $0.7$ degrees per year should change the secondary-eclipse delay by roughly $1.4$ seconds within ten years, allowing $e$ and $\omega$ to be disentangled from future timing measurements.
- The shortest-period system, ZTF J0720+6439, should show about $0.6$ seconds of eclipse arrival time change in ten years from gravitational-wave angular momentum loss, and ZTF J1110+7445 may be detectable by the space-based gravitational-wave detector LISA with a signal-to-noise ratio near 4 after ten years.
- All seven binaries are spiraling inward and are predicted to make contact in 36 million to 1.2 billion years, with the carbon-oxygen/helium-core system expected to merge into an R Coronae Borealis-like star and eventually a carbon-oxygen white dwarf.
- The seven new systems more than double the number of known eclipsing double white dwarfs with orbital periods longer than one hour, providing a cleaner sample for population studies of these binaries.
Reading between the lines
- Beyond the paper: if small eccentricities routinely survive common-envelope ejection, population-synthesis models of double white dwarfs should include non-zero initial eccentricities, which would affect predicted gravitational-wave phasing and the distribution of merger times.
- Beyond the paper: because only $e\cos\omega$ is measured and the true eccentricity could be larger if periastron lies near $90$ degrees, a decade of timing will settle this: apsidal precession should make $\Delta t_2$ oscillate on a period of roughly 460 years.
- Beyond the paper: a wide-orbit third body could mimic or modify the timing offset through light-travel-time variations, and although the spectra and spectral energy distribution show no sign of such a companion, continued timing of both primary and secondary eclipses will distinguish a constant precession signal from a periodic outer-orbit wobble.
- Beyond the paper: if this detection holds, searches of longer-period eclipsing double white dwarfs should find more eccentric systems, since timing sensitivity to $e\cos\omega$ improves as the orbital period grows.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. Van Roestel et al. present the discovery and characterisation of seven eclipsing double white dwarfs found in a systematic ZTF search, with orbital periods from 45 minutes to 3.3 hours. For each system they combine ZTF and CHIMERA light curves, archival multi-wavelength photometry, Gaia parallaxes, and radial velocities from LRIS/ESI in an MCMC joint model. They identify six double helium-core systems and one CO-helium system, derive merger timescales, and report the first measurement of a non-zero eccentricity in a compact double white dwarf binary: two systems (ZTF J0238+0933 and ZTF J1758+7642) show secondary-eclipse delays of about 10–12 s, attributed to e cos(omega) ≈ 1.5–1.8 × 10^-3. The paper also predicts that gravitational-wave orbital decay and relativistic apsidal precession will produce measurable eclipse-timing changes within a decade.
Significance. If the eccentricity detection holds, it is an important constraint on common-envelope evolution, as it suggests that post-common-envelope binaries can retain small eccentricities instead of being fully circularised. The full sample of seven well-characterised eclipsing double white dwarfs is also valuable for population studies and for planning LISA verification binaries. The analysis is thorough: it uses global fits to multiple datasets, MCMC parameter estimation, and explicit comparison with theoretical mass-radius relations and gravitational-wave predictions. However, the manuscript as written contains several internal quantitative inconsistencies in the formulas that support the headline numbers, and these must be resolved before the reported values can be used as published.
major comments (3)
- [Section 3.2.1, Eq. (1) and Table 3] The printed conversion between the secondary-eclipse time offset and eccentricity is inconsistent with the tabulated values by a factor of two. For ZTF J0238+0933, using the table values Δt_2 = 12.7 s and Δt_LT = −0.8 s gives Δt_e = 13.5 s, and with P = 11 822 s, Eq. (1) yields e cos(omega) = π Δt_e / P = 3.6 × 10^-3, whereas Table 3 lists 1.75 × 10^-3. The same discrepancy appears for ZTF J1758+7642 (3.3 × 10^-3 from Eq. (1) versus 1.55 × 10^-3 in Table 3). The tabulated values match the standard first-order result Δt_e ≈ (2P/π) e cos(omega) rather than Eq. (1). Please correct Eq. (1) or the table, and state explicitly which formula was used in the light-curve fits, in the abstract, and in the discussion of §5.2.
- [Section 3.2.1, Eq. (3) and Table 3] The gravitational-wave period-derivative formula is missing the standard (2π)^{8/3} prefactor. With the chirp mass defined as M_c = (M1 M2)^{3/5} / (M1 + M2)^{1/5}, the correct expression is P_dot = −(96/5) (2π)^{8/3} (G M_c)^{5/3} / (c^5 P^{5/3}); the printed formula has only 2π, so all P_dot values in Table 3 are too small by a factor (2π)^{5/3} ≈ 21. For example, ZTF J0720+6439 should have P_dot ≈ 7 × 10^-13 s/s rather than the tabulated 3.4 × 10^-14 s/s. Consequently the predicted cumulative eclipse-time shift in Section 6 is understated by the same factor (about 13 s, not 0.6 s, in 10 years). Please recompute the affected values and predictions.
- [Section 5.2, Eq. (4) and following sentence] The stated apsidal precession rate of approximately 0.7 deg/yr does not follow from Eq. (4). Substituting the Table 3 masses and periods for ZTF J0238+0933 (M_tot = 0.65 M_sun, P = 0.13683 d) into Eq. (4) gives 1.54 × 10^-3 deg/cycle, which, at 2670 cycles/yr, corresponds to 4.1 deg/yr; ZTF J1758+7642 gives about 3.7 deg/yr. The factor-of-six discrepancy should be resolved, since Section 6 uses this rate to predict a measurable change in Δt_2 over a decade.
minor comments (4)
- [Section 6 vs Section 7] The total number of known eclipsing double white dwarfs is stated as 23 in Section 6 and as 26 in Section 7; please harmonise these numbers.
- [Section 5.2] The sentence 'we can only determine a lower limit to the eccentricity (Eq. 2)' should reference Eq. (1), which gives the eccentricity-dependent time offset, not Eq. (2), which is the Rømer delay.
- [Abstract and Section 5.2] The phrase 'small eccentricity of ≈ 2 × 10^-3' would be more precise as 'e cos(omega) ≈ 2 × 10^-3, implying a lower limit on e'; as written, it could be read as a direct measurement of e.
- [Section 3.2.1] The two-step procedure of first ignoring the Rømer delay in the fit and then correcting for it using the fitted masses is mildly circular, although the small size of the correction (≲1.3 s) relative to the 10–12 s offsets makes a significant bias unlikely; it would be helpful to state the size of the correction explicitly for each system.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: the eccentricity measurement is a forward-model inference from eclipse-timing data, and the Rømer correction and self-citations do not reduce the result to its inputs.
full rationale
The paper's central claim, e cos ω ≈ 2e-3 for ZTF J0238+0933 and ZTF J1758+7642, is derived from measured secondary-eclipse time offsets (Δt2 = 12.7 s and 10.5 s) using a Keplerian timing relation; e and ω are free parameters in the ellc light-curve fit, not values imposed by the model. The Rømer correction (Section 3.2.1, Eq. 2) uses fitted K1 and q from the same global fit, but the correction is small (−0.8 s and −1.3 s) compared with the offsets, and the paper explicitly states that it corrects for this delay and recalculates the eccentricity, so the result is not statistically forced. The self-citations (e.g., Van Roestel et al. 2025, in prep; Burdge et al. 2020) provide discovery context and comparison samples; they are not load-bearing for the eccentricity derivation, which rests on external, independently published formalism (Winn 2010; Kaplan 2010; Gimenez 1985; ellc). The predictions of gravitational-wave period decay and relativistic apsidal precession are forecasts from fitted parameters with stated assumptions and do not feed back into the fit. In Section 5.2, the paper explicitly notes the limitation that only e cos ω is constrained and that a tertiary body could induce eccentricity via Kozai-Lidov oscillations, with no sign of a third object in spectra or SED; this is an honest caveat, not a circular step. One internal consistency issue is noted but is not circularity: Section 3.2.1, Eq. (1) prints Δt_e ≈ (P/π)e cosω, while the tabulated e cosω values match the standard first-order result Δt_e ≈ (2P/π)e cosω, indicating a factor-of-two typo in the printed formula that should be corrected for reproducibility.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (7)
- eccentricity e*cos(omega) =
1.75e-3 and 1.55e-3 for the two systems
- masses M1, M2 =
0.21 to 0.62 solar masses depending on system
- radii R1, R2 =
0.012 to 0.028 solar radii
- temperatures T1, T2 =
4200 K to 19010 K
- inclination i =
87.6 to 89.72 degrees
- distance D =
271 to 921 pc
- reddening E_gr =
0.053 to 0.117 mag
assumptions (5)
- domain assumption The binary star model with spherical stars, no tidal distortion, and fixed limb-darkening parameters is adequate for these white dwarf binaries.
- domain assumption The mass-radius relation for white dwarfs provides valid priors for the radii.
- domain assumption The pre-calculated white dwarf model atmosphere magnitudes (Holberg and Bergeron, Blouin et al., Bedard et al.) are accurate for these stars.
- standard math The Romer delay formula (Kaplan 2010) correctly describes the light travel time delay in these binaries.
- domain assumption The eccentricity induced time offset formula, Delta_t_e = (P/pi) e cos(omega), is the only significant source of secondary eclipse timing offset besides the Romer delay.
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abstract
In a systematic search for eclipsing white dwarfs using Zwicky transient facility (ZTF) data, we found seven eclipsing double white dwarfs with orbital periods ranging from 45 minutes to 3 hours. We collected high-speed light curves, archival multi-wavelength data, and optical spectra for all systems and determined the binary parameters for each of them. We show that six of the systems are low-mass, double helium-core white dwarf binaries, with the last one a carbon-oxygen -- helium core white dwarf binary. These binaries slowly spiral inwards due to gravitational wave energy losses and are expected to merge within 36Myr--1.2Gyr, and we predict that the shortest orbital period binary will show a measurable eclipse arrival time delay within a decade. The two longest systems show a delay in the arrival time of the secondary eclipse, which we attribute to a small eccentricity of $\approx 2\times10^{-3}$. This is the first time that a non-zero eccentricity is measured in a compact double white dwarf binary. We suggest that these systems emerged from the common envelope with this small eccentricity, and because of the relatively long orbital period, gravitational wave emission has not yet circularised the binaries. Finally, we predict that relativistic apsidal precession will result in a change in the delay of the secondary eclipse that is measurable within a decade.
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