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Fine projection complex and subsurface homeomorphisms with positive stable commutator length

Yongsheng Jia , Yusen Long This is my paper

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Some surface homeomorphisms preserving essential subsurfaces have positive stable commutator length in Homeo_0(S_g).

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The paper constructs a family of unbounded quasi-trees for a closed oriented surface of genus at least 2 on which the group of orientation-preserving homeomorphisms acts by isometries in a cobounded way. This action is applied to show that homeomorphisms preserving a non-sporadic essential subsurface or an essential subsurface homeomorphic to a once-bordered torus can have positive stable commutator length. The authors also introduce a version of the projection complex that does not require the usual finiteness condition on the underlying data.

Core claim

By building a family of unbounded quasi-trees for S_g that admits a cobounded isometric action by Homeo_0(S_g), the authors prove that surface homeomorphisms preserving a non-sporadic essential subsurface or an essential subsurface homeomorphic to a once-bordered torus can have positive stable commutator length in Homeo_0(S_g). They further supply a projection complex construction that avoids the finiteness condition.

What carries the argument

The family of unbounded quasi-trees admitting a cobounded isometric action by Homeo_0(S_g), obtained via a fine projection complex without the finiteness condition.

If this is right

  • Homeomorphisms preserving non-sporadic essential subsurfaces can have positive stable commutator length.
  • Homeomorphisms preserving essential subsurfaces homeomorphic to a once-bordered torus can have positive stable commutator length.
  • The projection complex construction applies without requiring a finiteness condition.
  • The quasi-tree action provides a uniform way to produce elements of positive stable commutator length inside Homeo_0(S_g).

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same quasi-tree construction could be tested on homeomorphisms that preserve other classes of subsurfaces to see whether positive scl appears more widely.
  • If the cobounded action holds, it supplies a concrete geometric model for detecting scl positivity that might be compared against other length functions on the homeomorphism group.
  • The finiteness-free projection complex may allow direct application to infinite-type surfaces or other settings where the standard finiteness assumption fails.

Load-bearing premise

The family of unbounded quasi-trees exists and admits a cobounded isometric action by Homeo_0(S_g).

What would settle it

An explicit computation or example showing that every homeomorphism preserving a non-sporadic essential subsurface or a once-bordered torus subsurface has stable commutator length exactly zero.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: d π X1 (X2, X3) can be arbitrarily large. Theorem 3.13 (Fine Behrstock’s inequality). There exists M > 0 such that the following holds. Let X1, X2, X3 be three non-sporadic essential subsurfaces of S pairwise intersecting each 16 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p016_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: An example of the isotopies operated in Theorem 3.13. By this means, we obtain a pair of subsurfaces with strictly one less non-essential intersection. Now by proceeding this operation for X2 and X3 for finite steps, we can find two subsurfaces Y ⊂ X2 and Z ⊂ X3 such that they have no non-essential intersection. By Proposition 3.5, we can conclude that Y and X2 are velcrot, so are Z and X3. Again, by trian… view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: Isotoping subsurface boundaries to boundaries of neighbourhoods of dual [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p018_3.png] view at source ↗
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Drawing inspiration from [BBF15], we construct a family of unbounded quasi-trees for a connected closed oriented surface $S_g$ of genus $g\geq 2$, upon which the group $\mathrm{Homeo}_0(S_g)$ acts coboundedly by isometries. As an application, we show that some surface homeomorphisms preserving a non-sporadic essential subsurface or an essential subsurface homeomorphic to a once-bordered torus can have positive stable commutator length in $\mathrm{Homeo}_0(S_g)$. Moreover, we provide a version of projection complex that does not require the finiteness condition.

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Summary. The manuscript constructs a family of unbounded quasi-trees for a closed oriented surface S_g (g ≥ 2) on which Homeo_0(S_g) acts coboundedly by isometries, using a projection complex that dispenses with the usual finiteness condition and draws inspiration from BBF15. As an application, it establishes that certain homeomorphisms preserving a non-sporadic essential subsurface or an essential subsurface homeomorphic to a once-bordered torus have positive stable commutator length in Homeo_0(S_g).

Significance. If the central construction holds, the result supplies new examples of elements with positive scl inside Homeo_0(S_g) and supplies a technically more flexible projection-complex framework that removes a restrictive hypothesis; both contributions are of interest to researchers working on stable commutator length and quasi-trees in surface homeomorphism groups.

minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] The abstract and introduction should include a brief sentence recalling the definition of a non-sporadic subsurface (or a pointer to the precise reference) so that readers outside the immediate subfield can follow the statement of the main theorem without external lookup.
  2. [Section 3 or 4] In the construction of the projection complex (likely §3 or §4), the verification that the resulting spaces are quasi-trees should be cross-referenced explicitly to the relevant axioms or distance formula, even if the argument is modeled on BBF15.

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We thank the referee for the positive summary, the assessment of significance, and the recommendation of minor revision. No specific major comments appear in the report.

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full rationale

The paper constructs a finiteness-free projection complex and a family of unbounded quasi-trees with cobounded Homeo_0(S_g) action, drawing inspiration from [BBF15] (distinct authors). It then applies this to exhibit positive stable commutator length for certain subsurface-preserving homeomorphisms. No equations, fitted parameters, or self-citations are shown that reduce any central claim to its own inputs by construction; the construction is presented as independent of the target scl result and externally inspired. This is the normal case of a self-contained argument.

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