On growth rates of infinite and finite sumsets
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The pith
For any growth rate H tending to infinity there exists a set A of lower density 1 such that every infinite B + C inside A satisfies min(|B ∩ [N]|, |C ∩ [N]|) < H(N) for infinitely many N.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
For every function H:ℕ→ℕ tending to infinity there exists A⊆ℕ with lower density 1 such that if B,C⊆ℕ are infinite and B+C⊆A then min(|B∩[N]|,|C∩[N]|)<H(N) for infinitely many N. Moreover, for every δ∈(0,1) and all sufficiently large N, every A⊆{1,…,N} with |A|/N≥δ contains B,C with B+C⊆A and |B|,|C|≳log N; the same holds for k-fold sums.
What carries the argument
A lower-density-1 set A constructed so that it intersects every sufficiently large sumset B+C only when at least one of B or C remains smaller than the prescribed H(N) on infinitely many scales.
If this is right
- No uniform growth rate exists that works for all infinite sumsets inside every positive-density set.
- The finite result supplies summands of logarithmic size inside every dense subset of an interval.
- The finite result extends directly to k-fold sumsets inside the same dense subsets.
- The infinite result gives a negative answer to the question posed by Kra, Moreira, Richter and Robertson.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The construction may adapt to other notions of largeness such as upper density or Banach density.
- The finite logarithmic bound suggests that stronger quantitative versions of the infinite result might be possible if one replaces lower density by a weaker notion.
- The same technique could be used to control growth rates of restricted sumsets or difference sets.
Load-bearing premise
Such a set A of lower density 1 can be built for every given growth function H that tends to infinity.
What would settle it
An explicit function H tending to infinity together with a proof that no lower-density-1 set A forces every infinite sumset inside it to violate H(N) infinitely often.
read the original abstract
We study growth rates of infinite and finite sumset patterns in sets of positive density. In the infinite setting, we show that no such rate exists, answering a question of Kra, Moreira, Ritcher, and Robertson. Namely, for any proposed growth rate $\mathcal{H}: \mathbb{N} \to \mathbb{N}$ tending to infinity, we construct a set $A$ of lower density $1$ such that whenever $B,C \subseteq \mathbb{N}$ are infinite and $B+C \subseteq A$ we have the minimum of $|B\cap [N]|$ and $|C \cap [N]|$ is less than $\mathcal{H}(N)$ for infinitely many $N$. In the finitary setting, we prove that for all $\delta \in (0,1)$, for all sufficiently large $N$, for all subsets $A$ of $\{1,\dots,N\}$ of proportion $\delta$, one can always find sumset patterns $B+C\subseteq A$ with $|B|$ and $|C|$ of order $\log N$, partially resolving a conjecture of Kra, Moreira, Richter, and Robertson. Moreover, we generalize our second result to the case of the $k$-fold sum $B_1 + B_2 + \ldots + B_k \subseteq A$.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript claims that for any H:ℕ→ℕ tending to infinity there exists A⊆ℕ with lower density 1 such that every pair of infinite B,C with B+C⊆A satisfies min(|B∩[N]|,|C∩[N]|)<H(N) for infinitely many N; this answers a question of Kra–Moreira–Richter–Robertson. In the finitary regime it asserts that for every δ∈(0,1) and all sufficiently large N, every A⊆[N] with |A|≥δN contains B,C with B+C⊆A and both |B|,|C|≫log N, partially resolving the same authors’ conjecture; the result is extended to k-fold sums B1+⋯+Bk⊆A.
Significance. The infinite result supplies an explicit density-1 construction that forces arbitrarily slow summand growth, furnishing a strong negative answer to the existence of uniform rates. The finitary logarithmic bound is a concrete quantitative statement, and the k-fold generalization broadens its scope. The explicit, inductive nature of the constructions is a clear strength of the work.
minor comments (3)
- [Theorem 1.3] The dependence of the implicit constants in the finitary theorem on δ is not made explicit; adding a sentence quantifying this dependence would improve precision.
- [Section 2] The inductive construction in the infinite case is described in prose; a short pseudocode block or numbered steps would aid readability without lengthening the argument.
- [Proof of Theorem 1.1] A few citations to standard density lemmas (e.g., the fact that the removed set has density zero) are missing; inserting them would make the density calculation fully self-contained.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their positive summary, significance assessment, and recommendation of minor revision. No specific major comments were provided in the report.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity identified
full rationale
The paper's central results are existence theorems proved via explicit constructions (inductive or diagonal removal of a density-zero set to enforce the slow-growth condition on all potential fast-growing pairs B, C) and separate finitary counting arguments. No step reduces a claimed prediction or uniqueness result to a fitted parameter, self-citation chain, or definitional renaming; the argument is self-contained against external benchmarks and does not invoke load-bearing prior results by the same authors.
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