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Runtime-Orchestrated Second-Order Optimization for Scalable LLM Training

Junhao Zhang, Wes Armour, Yishun Lu, Zeyu Yang

Asteria enables practical second-order LLM training by managing optimizer state and background tasks at the runtime level.

arxiv:2605.16184 v1 · 2026-05-15 · cs.DC · cs.LG

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Our results suggest that second-order LLM training can be made practical not by simplifying the optimizer alone, but by rethinking how optimizer state, background computation, and distributed synchronization are managed at the runtime level.

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The bounded-staleness protocol and asynchronous shadow-state preparation preserve optimizer effectiveness without introducing unacceptable latency or convergence degradation; this is invoked in the description of the distributed training protocol and the training-hook mechanism.

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Asteria is a runtime system that enables second-order optimization for LLMs by dynamically distributing optimizer state across GPU, CPU, and NVMe while using asynchronous inverse-root computations and bounded-staleness synchronization.

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[1] Decoupled weight decay regularization
[2] Decoupled Weight Decay Regularization · doi:10.48550/arxiv.1711.05101
[3] Shampoo: Preconditioned stochastic tensor optimization 2018 · arXiv:1802.09568
[4] SOAP: Improving and Stabilizing Shampoo using Adam 2025 · doi:10.48550/arxiv.2409.11321
[5] Towards Learning Boulder Excavation with Hydraulic Excavators 2026 · doi:10.48550/arxiv.2

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arxiv: 2605.16184 · arxiv_version: 2605.16184v1 · doi: 10.48550/arxiv.2605.16184 · pith_short_12: ZSYKFRMHFDPX · pith_short_16: ZSYKFRMHFDPX3NF7 · pith_short_8: ZSYKFRMH
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