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Training Deep Learning Models with Norm-Constrained LMOs

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In this work, we study optimization methods that leverage the linear minimization oracle (LMO) over a norm-ball. We propose a new stochastic family of algorithms that uses the LMO to adapt to the geometry of the problem and, perhaps surprisingly, show that they can be applied to unconstrained problems. The resulting update rule unifies several existing optimization methods under a single framework. Furthermore, we propose an explicit choice of norm for deep architectures, which, as a side benefit, leads to the transferability of hyperparameters across model sizes. Experimentally, we demonstrate significant speedups on nanoGPT training using our algorithm, Scion, without any reliance on Adam. The proposed method is memory-efficient, requiring only one set of model weights and one set of gradients, which can be stored in half-precision. The code is available at https://github.com/LIONS-EPFL/scion .

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Why Muon Outperforms Adam: A Curvature Perspective

cs.LG · 2026-06-03 · conditional · novelty 7.0

Muon outperforms Adam by reducing curvature penalty via lower Normalized Directional Sharpness, as shown via Taylor approximation on LLM training and proven on stylized quadratic problems with heterogeneous curvature.

Boosted Stochastic Frank-Wolfe for Constrained Nonconvex Optimization

math.OC · 2026-05-24 · unverdicted · novelty 7.0

A new step size rule lets boosted stochastic Frank-Wolfe match ordinary stochastic Frank-Wolfe rates on nonconvex and quasar-convex problems and deliver faster empirical convergence on sparse logistic regression and quantum tomography.

On the Convergence of Muon and Beyond

cs.LG · 2025-09-19 · unverdicted · novelty 7.0

Muon-MVR2 attains the optimal anytime convergence rate of ~O(T^{-1/3}) in stochastic non-convex settings under horizon-free schedules.

Demystifying Manifold Constraints in LLM Pre-training

cs.LG · 2026-05-06 · unverdicted · novelty 6.0

Manifold constraints via the new MACRO optimizer independently bound activation scales and enforce rotational equilibrium in LLM pre-training, subsuming RMS normalization and decoupled weight decay while delivering competitive performance with convergence guarantees.

SUDA-Muon: Structural Design Principles and Boundaries for Fully Decentralized Muon

math.OC · 2026-04-27 · unverdicted · novelty 6.0

SUDA-Muon modularizes decentralized Muon via the SUDA template, proving a topology-separated convergence rate of O((1+σ/√N)K^{-1/4}) in nuclear-norm geometry while establishing that tracking-before-polarization is required to avoid non-stationary fixed points and that local-polarize-then-average is

On the Convergence Analysis of Muon

stat.ML · 2025-05-29 · conditional · novelty 6.0

Muon's convergence rate depends on an average Hessian curvature along its update directions, which can be much smaller than the worst-case Lipschitz constant when Hessians are low-rank.

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