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Noether charge, black hole volume, and complexity

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In this paper, we study the physical significance of the thermodynamic volumes of AdS black holes using the Noether charge formalism of Iyer and Wald. After applying this formalism to study the extended thermodynamics of a few examples, we discuss how the extended thermodynamics interacts with the recent complexity = action proposal of Brown et al. (CA-duality). We, in particular, discover that their proposal for the late time rate of change of complexity has a nice decomposition in terms of thermodynamic quantities reminiscent of the Smarr relation. This decomposition strongly suggests a geometric, and via CA-duality holographic, interpretation for the thermodynamic volume of an AdS black hole. We go on to discuss the role of thermodynamics in complexity = action for a number of black hole solutions, and then point out the possibility of an alternate proposal, which we dub "complexity = volume 2.0". In this alternate proposal, the complexity would be thought of as the spacetime volume of the Wheeler-DeWitt patch. Finally, we provide evidence that, in certain cases, our proposal for complexity is consistent with the Lloyd bound whereas CA-duality is not.

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Toward Krylov-based holography in double-scaled SYK

hep-th · 2025-10-26 · unverdicted · novelty 6.0

Establishes a threefold duality linking Krylov complexity growth rate to wormhole velocity and proper momentum in DSSYK holography, with higher moments capturing replica wormholes and Krylov entropy equaling parent-geometry von Neumann entropy after tracing baby universes.

The Role of the Volume in Black Hole Thermodynamics

gr-qc · 2026-06-29 · conditional · novelty 5.0

Conserved charges built from a Kerr-Schild background show the first law requires the Killing vector and AdS background to be held fixed, explaining why the rotating-frame energy F fails while E works, and why the geometric volume appears in the β Smarr relation.

Holographic complexity of de-Sitter black holes

hep-th · 2026-06-02 · unverdicted · novelty 5.0

In SdS black hole holography, CV and CV2.0 complexities grow linearly while CA growth vanishes due to finite action, with matching rates between static patch and dS/CFT schemes.

Holographic pressure and volume for black holes

hep-th · 2026-02-04 · unverdicted · novelty 5.0

Introduces a holographic pressure and volume for static spherically symmetric black holes via quasi-local thermodynamics, showing large black holes become extensive in the large-system limit while small ones do not.

A Timelike Quantum Focusing Conjecture

hep-th · 2026-04-29 · unverdicted · novelty 5.0

A timelike quantum focusing conjecture implies a complexity-based quantum strong energy condition and a complexity bound analogous to the covariant entropy bound for suitable codimension-0 field theory complexity measures.

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  • Explicit and covariant formula for thermodynamic volume in extended black hole thermodynamics gr-qc · 2025-12-01 · unverdicted · none · ref 20 · internal anchor

    An explicit covariant formula for thermodynamic volume is derived that universally decomposes into explicit Lagrangian coupling dependence plus dynamical field response contributions.

  • Cosmological Entanglement Entropy from the von Neumann Algebra of Double-Scaled SYK & Its Connection with Krylov Complexity hep-th · 2025-11-05 · unverdicted · none · ref 105 · internal anchor

    Algebraic entanglement entropy from type II1 algebras in double-scaled SYK is matched via triple-scaling limits to Ryu-Takayanagi areas in (A)dS2, reproducing Bekenstein-Hawking and Gibbons-Hawking formulas for specific regions while depending on Krylov complexity of the Hartle-Hawking state.

  • Toward Krylov-based holography in double-scaled SYK hep-th · 2025-10-26 · unverdicted · none · ref 17 · internal anchor

    Establishes a threefold duality linking Krylov complexity growth rate to wormhole velocity and proper momentum in DSSYK holography, with higher moments capturing replica wormholes and Krylov entropy equaling parent-geometry von Neumann entropy after tracing baby universes.

  • The Role of the Volume in Black Hole Thermodynamics gr-qc · 2026-06-29 · conditional · none · ref 33 · internal anchor

    Conserved charges built from a Kerr-Schild background show the first law requires the Killing vector and AdS background to be held fixed, explaining why the rotating-frame energy F fails while E works, and why the geometric volume appears in the β Smarr relation.

  • Holographic complexity of de-Sitter black holes hep-th · 2026-06-02 · unverdicted · none · ref 65 · internal anchor

    In SdS black hole holography, CV and CV2.0 complexities grow linearly while CA growth vanishes due to finite action, with matching rates between static patch and dS/CFT schemes.

  • Stringy Effects on Holographic Complexity: The Complete Volume in Dynamical Spacetimes hep-th · 2026-04-17 · unverdicted · none · ref 21 · 2 links · internal anchor

    Gauss-Bonnet corrections to the complete volume proposal introduce a competition effect in static black holes while preserving momentum-governed growth rates and logarithmic scrambling times in dynamical Vaidya geometries.

  • Holographic pressure and volume for black holes hep-th · 2026-02-04 · unverdicted · none · ref 44 · internal anchor

    Introduces a holographic pressure and volume for static spherically symmetric black holes via quasi-local thermodynamics, showing large black holes become extensive in the large-system limit while small ones do not.

  • Holographic complexity of the Klebanov-Strassler background hep-th · 2023-11-30 · unverdicted · none · ref 14 · internal anchor

    Studies holographic complexity in the Klebanov-Strassler background, reporting common scaling with confinement scale across functionals and more complex UV divergences than in AdS.

  • A Timelike Quantum Focusing Conjecture hep-th · 2026-04-29 · unverdicted · none · ref 21

    A timelike quantum focusing conjecture implies a complexity-based quantum strong energy condition and a complexity bound analogous to the covariant entropy bound for suitable codimension-0 field theory complexity measures.