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arxiv: 2209.15111 · v3 · submitted 2022-09-29 · 💻 cs.AI

Quantifying Harm

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keywords harm quantificationsocietal harmexpected harmaggregationdecision theoryprecision medicineuncertaintycausal reasoning
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The naive approach of summing expected individual harms can lead to counterintuitive or inappropriate measures of societal harm.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper develops a quantitative definition of harm, beginning with a deterministic setting for a single individual. It then incorporates uncertainty about the context and extends the notion to societal harm by aggregating across multiple individuals. The authors show that the straightforward method of computing expected harm for each person and then adding those values across people can produce results that conflict with intuitive judgments about overall harm. They examine alternative aggregation approaches drawn from decision theory to address these issues. The work connects these ideas to ongoing debates about measuring harm in precision medicine.

Core claim

The paper defines a quantitative notion of harm in a deterministic context for a single individual, extends the definition to handle uncertainty, and demonstrates that the obvious aggregation method of taking expected harm per individual and summing over individuals can lead to counterintuitive or inappropriate answers for societal harm, while discussing alternatives from the decision-theory literature and linking the results to precision medicine.

What carries the argument

The quantitative harm measure, first defined for deterministic single-individual cases and then extended via aggregation functions to handle uncertainty and multiple individuals.

If this is right

  • Choosing the least harmful intervention requires selecting an aggregation method that avoids the counterintuitive results of simple summation.
  • Societal harm calculations benefit from considering decision-theoretic alternatives rather than defaulting to expected-harm summation.
  • In precision medicine, the choice of harm aggregation affects which treatments are identified as least harmful overall.
  • Handling uncertainty in harm assessment calls for methods beyond direct expectation before aggregation.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The identified aggregation problems may require incorporating risk attitudes or distributional concerns when defining societal harm.
  • Testing the alternatives in specific medical case studies could reveal whether they better match prevailing ethical intuitions about total harm.
  • The framework could be applied to algorithmic decision systems to ensure their harm calculations align with non-naive aggregation principles.

Load-bearing premise

That a single quantitative measure of harm exists that remains meaningful when aggregated across individuals and uncertainty without requiring additional normative commitments beyond the definition itself.

What would settle it

A concrete multi-individual scenario with outcome uncertainty in which the ranking of interventions by summed expected harm differs from the ranking produced by at least one decision-theoretic alternative, and where independent ethical judgment aligns with the alternative ranking.

read the original abstract

In earlier work we defined a qualitative notion of harm: either harm is caused, or it is not. For practical applications, we often need to quantify harm; for example, we may want to choose the least harmful of a set of possible interventions. In this work, which is an expanded version of an earlier conference paper, we develop a quantitative notion of harm. We first present a quantitative definition of harm in a deterministic context involving a single individual, then we consider the issues involved in dealing with uncertainty regarding the context and going from a notion of harm for a single individual to a notion of "societal harm", which involves aggregating the harm to individuals. We show that the "obvious" way of doing this (just taking the expected harm for an individual and then summing the expected harm over all individuals) can lead to counterintuitive or inappropriate answers, and discuss alternatives, drawing on work from the decision-theory literature. Finally, we connect our work to a recent debate over harm within the context of precision medicine.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper extends the authors' prior qualitative definition of harm to a quantitative version. It first presents a quantitative definition for harm in a deterministic single-individual context, then examines extensions to uncertainty and aggregation across individuals to define societal harm. The central observation is that the naive approach of taking expected harm per individual and summing across individuals can produce counterintuitive or inappropriate results; alternatives are discussed drawing on decision-theory literature. The work concludes by relating the framework to ongoing debates in precision medicine.

Significance. If the quantitative definition and the identified aggregation issues hold, the paper could contribute a more careful framework for harm assessment in AI ethics, policy, and medical decision-making by underscoring the normative choices involved in aggregation under uncertainty. Credit is given for explicitly engaging decision-theoretic alternatives rather than stopping at the critique of summation. As a primarily definitional and conceptual exercise without new empirical tests, formal theorems, or falsifiable predictions, its significance rests on whether the distinctions prove useful in downstream applications.

minor comments (3)
  1. [Societal harm / aggregation section] The aggregation discussion would benefit from one or two fully worked numerical examples (with explicit utilities or probabilities) showing precisely where summation diverges from the proposed alternatives.
  2. [Precision medicine connection] The final section connecting to precision medicine would be strengthened by citing one or two specific papers or positions in that debate and indicating exactly which aspect of the quantitative harm measure bears on them.
  3. [Introduction / quantitative definition section] Clarify in the introduction or §2 how the new quantitative definition relates formally to the authors' earlier qualitative definition (e.g., whether the quantitative version is a conservative extension or introduces new parameters).

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their review and for recommending minor revision. We appreciate the acknowledgment that the paper engages decision-theoretic alternatives and recognize the note that significance will depend on downstream usefulness.

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity

full rationale

The paper begins from the authors' prior qualitative definition of harm (explicitly cited as earlier work) and extends it by introducing new quantitative definitions for deterministic single-agent cases, then addresses uncertainty and aggregation by drawing on external decision-theory literature. No load-bearing step reduces a claimed prediction or theorem to a fitted parameter, self-referential equation, or unverified self-citation chain; the quantitative notions are presented as definitional extensions rather than derived outputs that loop back to inputs by construction. The work remains conceptual and self-contained against external benchmarks.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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Paper is definitional and extends authors' prior qualitative framework; relies on standard counterfactual notions of harm and decision-theoretic aggregation principles without introducing new fitted parameters or invented entities in the abstract.

axioms (2)
  • domain assumption Harm is defined relative to a counterfactual baseline of what would have occurred otherwise.
    Invoked when moving from qualitative to quantitative harm for a single individual.
  • domain assumption Aggregation of individual harms requires normative choices drawn from decision theory rather than pure summation.
    Central to the critique of the obvious aggregation method.

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