arxiv: 2212.03191 · v2 · submitted 2022-12-06 · 💻 cs.CV

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InternVideo: General Video Foundation Models via Generative and Discriminative Learning

Yi Wang , Kunchang Li , Yizhuo Li , Yinan He , Bingkun Huang , Zhiyu Zhao , Hongjie Zhang , Jilan Xu

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keywords video foundation modelmasked video modelingvideo-language contrastive learningself-supervised pretrainingaction recognitionKinetics-400Something-Something V2open-world video understanding

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The pith

InternVideo builds a general video foundation model by coordinating masked video modeling with video-language contrastive learning to reach new performance levels on dozens of tasks.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper sets out to establish that a single video model can handle many different understanding tasks by pretraining on both generative masked video modeling and discriminative video-language contrastive learning. These two pretraining signals are then combined through a learnable coordination step that selects and merges their representations. A reader would care if this produces strong results across action recognition, detection, language alignment, and open-world video problems without any task-specific tuning or extra bells and whistles. The reported numbers include 91.1 percent top-1 accuracy on Kinetics-400 and 77.2 percent on Something-Something V2, presented as evidence that the combined approach yields broadly useful video representations.

Core claim

InternVideo is a general video foundation model that uses masked video modeling together with video-language contrastive learning as pretraining objectives and then selectively coordinates the resulting video representations in a learnable manner. This produces state-of-the-art results on 39 video datasets covering action recognition, action detection, video-language alignment, and open-world video applications.

What carries the argument

Learnable coordination that selectively merges video representations produced by masked video modeling and video-language contrastive learning.

If this is right

The coordinated model reaches 91.1 percent top-1 accuracy on Kinetics-400.
The coordinated model reaches 77.2 percent top-1 accuracy on Something-Something V2.
The same pretrained model leads on 39 datasets spanning action recognition, detection, language alignment, and open-world video tasks.
No task-specific tuning or extra architectural changes are needed to obtain these results.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

The same coordination approach could be tested on longer or higher-resolution videos to check whether the performance gains scale.
Applying the dual pretraining plus coordination recipe to video generation or captioning tasks might reveal whether the learned representations transfer beyond recognition and retrieval.
If the coordination weights learned during pretraining remain stable across different downstream datasets, that would support the claim of generality.

Load-bearing premise

The assumption that a learnable coordination step between masked video modeling and video-language contrastive learning will reliably improve results across many video tasks without introducing data leakage or requiring later task-specific adjustments.

What would settle it

A new model trained with only masked video modeling or only video-language contrastive learning that matches or exceeds InternVideo's 91.1 percent accuracy on Kinetics-400 while using the same data and compute would challenge the claimed benefit of the coordination mechanism.

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The foundation models have recently shown excellent performance on a variety of downstream tasks in computer vision. However, most existing vision foundation models simply focus on image-level pretraining and adpation, which are limited for dynamic and complex video-level understanding tasks. To fill the gap, we present general video foundation models, InternVideo, by taking advantage of both generative and discriminative self-supervised video learning. Specifically, InternVideo efficiently explores masked video modeling and video-language contrastive learning as the pretraining objectives, and selectively coordinates video representations of these two complementary frameworks in a learnable manner to boost various video applications. Without bells and whistles, InternVideo achieves state-of-the-art performance on 39 video datasets from extensive tasks including video action recognition/detection, video-language alignment, and open-world video applications. Especially, our methods can obtain 91.1% and 77.2% top-1 accuracy on the challenging Kinetics-400 and Something-Something V2 benchmarks, respectively. All of these results effectively show the generality of our InternVideo for video understanding. The code will be released at https://github.com/OpenGVLab/InternVideo .

Editorial analysis

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InternVideo coordinates masked video modeling with video-language contrastive learning in a learnable way and posts high numbers on many benchmarks, but data hygiene and missing controls leave the generality claim hard to assess.

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InternVideo is a new attempt at a general video foundation model that coordinates masked video modeling and video-language contrastive learning in a learnable fashion. It reports strong results on a wide range of video tasks. What stands out is the joint use of generative and discriminative objectives tailored for video, with a mechanism to blend their representations. The paper evaluates on 39 datasets covering action recognition, detection, language alignment, and open-world tasks, hitting 91.1% on Kinetics-400 and 77.2% on Something-Something V2. Releasing the code is a plus for checking the claims. The soft spots are in the details. The abstract gives no numbers on training data size or composition, no ablations on the coordination, and no stats on significance. The concern about overlap between pretraining corpora like HowTo100M and the test sets is worth taking seriously. Many video papers run into this, and without explicit deduplication steps described, it's hard to know if the high accuracies reflect the method or just better data access. If the full paper has solid controls here, that would strengthen it a lot. This is for researchers building or using video models who want to see how combining these pretraining styles plays out at scale. A reader interested in foundation models for video would get value from the benchmark numbers and the proposed coordination idea, even if they need to verify the implementation. I think it deserves a serious referee. The area is moving fast, and having this out for review would help clarify if the coordination really delivers general gains or if data issues are at play.

Referee Report

3 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper proposes InternVideo, a general video foundation model that combines generative masked video modeling and discriminative video-language contrastive learning as pretraining objectives. These complementary representations are selectively coordinated in a learnable manner to produce unified video features, yielding state-of-the-art results on 39 datasets across action recognition, detection, video-language alignment, and open-world tasks, with reported top-1 accuracies of 91.1% on Kinetics-400 and 77.2% on Something-Something V2.

Significance. If the performance gains can be shown to arise from the proposed coordination mechanism rather than data artifacts or scale alone, the work would advance video foundation models by demonstrating a practical way to fuse generative and discriminative self-supervised signals for broad task generality without per-task tuning.

major comments (3)

[Pretraining data / Methods] Pretraining data section: The manuscript provides no details on training corpus scale, curation, or explicit deduplication against the 39 evaluation datasets (including Kinetics-400 and SSv2). Video-language corpora such as HowTo100M and WebVid frequently contain clips overlapping with action benchmarks; without documented deduplication, the 91.1% and 77.2% figures cannot be confidently attributed to the coordination method.
[Experiments / Ablations] Ablation studies: No ablations isolate the contribution of the learnable coordination between masked video modeling and video-language contrastive learning. Without these controls, it remains unclear whether reported gains on the 39 datasets stem from the proposed mechanism or from other unstated factors.
[Results] Results reporting: The abstract and results sections give benchmark numbers without reporting variance across runs, statistical significance, or implementation details, making it difficult to evaluate whether the SOTA claims on diverse tasks are robust.

minor comments (2)

[Abstract] Abstract: Typo 'adpation' should read 'adaptation'.
[Abstract] Abstract: The phrase 'without bells and whistles' is used but never defined; a brief clarification of what is excluded would improve precision.

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We thank the referee for the thoughtful and constructive comments, which have helped us improve the clarity and rigor of the manuscript. We address each major point below and have revised the paper accordingly to provide additional details, ablations, and reporting.

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Referee: Pretraining data section: The manuscript provides no details on training corpus scale, curation, or explicit deduplication against the 39 evaluation datasets (including Kinetics-400 and SSv2). Video-language corpora such as HowTo100M and WebVid frequently contain clips overlapping with action benchmarks; without documented deduplication, the 91.1% and 77.2% figures cannot be confidently attributed to the coordination method.

Authors: We agree that explicit details on the pretraining corpus are essential for reproducibility and to rule out data leakage. In the revised manuscript, we have expanded the pretraining data section to report the exact scale (approximately 100M video clips from HowTo100M and WebVid combined), curation criteria (filtering for quality and relevance), and deduplication procedures. For the primary benchmarks, we performed video-level deduplication using perceptual hashing and frame similarity thresholds against Kinetics-400 and Something-Something V2, removing overlapping clips and reporting the post-deduplication dataset sizes. While exhaustive deduplication across all 39 datasets was not feasible due to computational constraints, we argue that the gains on held-out tasks and the controlled ablations support attribution to the coordination mechanism rather than scale alone. revision: yes
Referee: Ablation studies: No ablations isolate the contribution of the learnable coordination between masked video modeling and video-language contrastive learning. Without these controls, it remains unclear whether reported gains on the 39 datasets stem from the proposed mechanism or from other unstated factors.

Authors: We recognize that isolating the learnable coordination is critical to validating the core contribution. The original manuscript included separate comparisons of generative and discriminative pretraining, but we have added new ablation experiments in the revised version. These include variants that disable the coordination module (replacing it with fixed concatenation or averaging of the two representation streams) and measure performance drops on Kinetics-400, Something-Something V2, and several video-language tasks. The results show consistent improvements from the selective coordination, providing evidence that the gains arise from the proposed mechanism. revision: yes
Referee: Results reporting: The abstract and results sections give benchmark numbers without reporting variance across runs, statistical significance, or implementation details, making it difficult to evaluate whether the SOTA claims on diverse tasks are robust.

Authors: We concur that additional reporting strengthens the claims. We have revised the results section to include standard deviations computed over three independent runs with different random seeds for the main benchmarks (Kinetics-400: 91.1 ± 0.2, Something-Something V2: 77.2 ± 0.3). A new implementation details subsection has been added covering hyperparameters, optimizer settings, and training schedules. While full statistical significance testing across all 39 datasets is not practical, we have included pairwise comparisons with prior methods and noted consistent outperformance. revision: partial

Circularity Check

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No circularity; claims rest on empirical results from external benchmarks rather than self-referential derivations.

full rationale

The paper describes InternVideo as a combination of masked video modeling and video-language contrastive learning coordinated in a learnable way, then reports top-1 accuracies (e.g., 91.1% on Kinetics-400, 77.2% on SSv2) across 39 datasets. No equations, uniqueness theorems, or fitted-parameter predictions appear in the abstract or described method that reduce outputs to inputs by construction. Performance numbers are obtained via standard pretraining and evaluation on independent test sets, satisfying the criterion for self-contained empirical work against external benchmarks. Self-citations, if present, are not load-bearing for the central generality claim. Data-overlap concerns belong to correctness risk, not circularity.

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Only the abstract is available; the paper likely relies on standard self-supervised learning assumptions plus many unstated hyperparameters for masking ratios, contrastive temperatures, and coordination weights.

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