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arxiv: 2308.00025 · v4 · submitted 2023-07-31 · ✦ hep-ph · hep-ex

On the positivity of MSbar parton distributions

Alessandro Candido , Stefano Forte , Tommaso Giani , Felix Hekhorn This is my paper

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keywords parton distribution functionsMSbar schemepositivityperturbative QCDPDF evolutionhigh-energy physics
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Parton distribution functions in the MSbar scheme are non-negative in the perturbative region.

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The paper revisits and clarifies an earlier argument that parton distribution functions defined in the MSbar scheme remain non-negative at scales high enough for perturbation theory to hold. Recent calculations have established that these functions can become negative at sufficiently low scales, prompting a restriction of the original positivity proof to its valid domain. The authors provide quantitative clarifications to the derivation and estimate the scale above which positivity is guaranteed to hold. This matters for the consistent use of PDFs in predicting scattering cross sections at colliders, where they enter as weights in perturbative expansions.

Core claim

Parton distribution functions in the MSbar scheme are non-negative in the perturbative region. The domain of validity of the original positivity argument is restricted to this region, with quantitative aspects of the derivation holding after clarification, and an estimate is given for the scale above which positivity holds.

What carries the argument

The positivity argument for MSbar PDFs, with its domain restricted to the perturbative region.

If this is right

  • MSbar PDFs can be treated as non-negative weights in perturbative cross-section calculations at high enough scales.
  • The estimated scale sets a practical lower limit for reliable use of perturbative QCD with these distributions.
  • Global PDF fits can incorporate positivity constraints above this scale without contradiction.
  • Negativity observed in calculations must be confined to non-perturbative scales.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • This scale estimate could guide the choice of starting scale in PDF evolution codes to avoid unphysical regions.
  • If the estimate proves robust, it may allow simpler positivity-preserving parametrizations in global analyses at collider energies.
  • The clarification separates perturbative behavior from non-perturbative modeling, potentially affecting how low-scale data are incorporated in fits.

Load-bearing premise

The original positivity argument remains valid once its domain of validity is restricted to the perturbative region, with the quantitative aspects of the derivation holding after the clarifications provided.

What would settle it

A explicit computation of an MSbar PDF that turns negative at a scale well above the estimated threshold provided in the paper.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2308.00025 by Alessandro Candido, Felix Hekhorn, Stefano Forte, Tommaso Giani.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: The NLO cumulants Cij (x) Eq. (50). The gluon-gluon, gluon-quark, quark-gluon and quark-quark entries are shown from left to right and from top to bottom. We can now discuss the positivity region quantitatively. First, we note that the region in which monotonic decrease of physical observables sets in can be very conservatively estimated to be Q2 ≳ 5 GeV2 . Indeed, as already observed, deep-inelastic struc… view at source ↗
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We revisit our argument that shows that parton distribution Functions (PDFs) in the MSbar{ scheme are non-negative in the perturbative region, with the main goals of elucidating its domain of validity and clarifying its theoretical underpinnings. We specifically discuss recent results proving that PDFs can turn negative at sufficiently low scale, we clarify quantitatively various aspects of our derivation of positivity in the perturbative region, and we provide an estimate for the scale above which PDF positivity holds.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript revisits the authors' prior argument establishing non-negativity of MSbar parton distribution functions (PDFs) in the perturbative region. It addresses recent demonstrations that PDFs can become negative at sufficiently low scales, supplies quantitative clarifications to the derivation, restricts the domain of validity accordingly, and provides an estimate of the scale above which positivity is expected to hold.

Significance. If the clarified argument holds, the result supplies a theoretically grounded domain restriction and practical scale estimate that can inform the treatment of PDFs in global fits and perturbative phenomenology. The work directly engages recent negativity results rather than dismissing them, and the emphasis on the perturbative region removes an overclaim that would otherwise conflict with low-scale findings. No machine-checked proofs or parameter-free derivations are present, but the domain restriction itself is a falsifiable improvement over the unrestricted prior claim.

major comments (1)
  1. [Introduction and main derivation section] The central positivity claim continues to rest on the validity of the authors' earlier argument (referenced as 'our argument'). While the manuscript states that it clarifies the domain restriction to the perturbative region, a self-contained recap of the key logical steps (including any assumptions about the perturbative expansion) would allow readers to verify that the restriction does not alter the original derivation in a way that reduces it to a fitted parameter.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] The abstract mentions 'an estimate for the scale' but does not quote the numerical value or the functional form; including this in the abstract would improve accessibility.
  2. [Throughout] Notation for the MSbar scheme and the perturbative region should be defined at first use rather than assumed from prior literature.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their constructive review and recommendation of minor revision. The manuscript aims to clarify the domain of validity of our earlier positivity argument while engaging with recent negativity results at low scales. We address the major comment below.

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  1. Referee: [Introduction and main derivation section] The central positivity claim continues to rest on the validity of the authors' earlier argument (referenced as 'our argument'). While the manuscript states that it clarifies the domain restriction to the perturbative region, a self-contained recap of the key logical steps (including any assumptions about the perturbative expansion) would allow readers to verify that the restriction does not alter the original derivation in a way that reduces it to a fitted parameter.

    Authors: We agree that a self-contained recap of the key logical steps would enhance the manuscript's accessibility and allow readers to directly verify the consistency of the domain restriction. The restriction to the perturbative region follows from the validity of the perturbative expansion itself (specifically, the scale at which higher-order terms remain controlled), rather than from any fitted parameter. In the revised version, we will insert a concise recap of the original argument's main steps and assumptions in the introduction, including the role of the perturbative expansion, to make this explicit without altering the derivation. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; derivation self-contained

full rationale

The paper revisits and clarifies the domain of validity of an existing positivity argument for MSbar PDFs, restricting it to the perturbative region and supplying a quantitative scale estimate. No load-bearing step reduces by construction to a fitted input, self-definition, or unverified self-citation chain; the central claim is presented through direct clarification of the derivation within this work, which remains externally falsifiable via the stated perturbative assumptions and recent negativity results at low scales. Self-citation of prior work by the same authors is present but not load-bearing for the new quantitative clarifications.

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