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Electrolyzers Bidding in Electricity Markets under Green Hydrogen Regulations and Uncertainty

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Pith's one-line read An electrolyzer that bids on wind-production scenarios instead of a point forecast earns about 95% of the profit it would earn with perfect information, against 91% for the point forecast — and the gain comes with more unmatched, gray…

desk verdict A clean, useful derivation of an uncertainty-aware DA bid curve for electrolyzers under hourly matching, whose headline numbers rest on an untested no-real-time-recourse assumption. read the letter →

arxiv 2507.20702 v1 pith:7X6N22QP submitted 2025-07-28 math.OC

Andrea Gloppen Johnsen , Lesia Mitridati , Jalal Kazempour , Line Roald This is my paper · ORCID
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keywords electrolyzergreenhydrogentemporalmatchingday-aheadelectricitymarketbiddingunderuncertaintynewsvendorproblemKarush-Kuhn-Tuckerconditionswindforecast
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The reading

Green-hydrogen subsidies in the EU and US require that an electrolyzer's consumption be matched hour by hour to renewable generation, but renewable output is only known after the fact. This paper argues that an electrolyzer bidding in the day-ahead market should therefore price each bid quantity by the probability that realized wind exceeds it, giving the stepwise curve $\text{price}(q)=\eta(\pi_{\mathrm{gray}}+\pi_{\mathrm{green}}(1-F(q)))$. In a year-long Danish case study, the scenario-based curve earns 95% of the profit a clairvoyant electrolyzer would earn, versus 91% for a curve built on the point wind forecast — a gain of roughly 4%. The catch is that the uncertainty-aware curve does not improve temporal matching: consumption that exceeds realized wind rises by 25% relative to the clairvoyant case, against 8% for the point forecast. The paper therefore concludes that renewable uncertainty can distort the incentive effect of hourly-matching regulation, a consequence that system-level emission studies working with perfect information would miss.

What carries the argument

The load-bearing object is the stepwise price-quantity bid curve derived from the KKT conditions of a linear program, eq. (14), which maximizes the electrolyzer's expected profit over scenarios of the matching renewable output for a given day-ahead price $\lambda^{\mathrm{DA}}$. The KKT stationarity and complementary-slackness conditions carve the bid curve into horizontal price segments (ranges of quantities optimal at a fixed price) and vertical quantity segments (ranges of prices for which a fixed quantity is optimal), reproducing the discrete decreasing-step format that day-ahead markets accept from consumers. The curve's defining formula is $\text{price}(q)=\eta(\pi_{\mathrm{gray}}+\pi_{\mathrm{green}}(1-\hat{F}_S(q)))$, with $\hat{F}_S$ the empirical CDF of the wind scenarios: each bid step's height is the gray hydrogen value plus the green subsidy weighted by the probability that realized wind exceeds the step's quantity. The scenarios themselves come from a K-nearest-neighbours resampling of historical forecast errors ($K=50$ past hours with similar forecasts, $N=10$ scenarios including the point forecast), and the same derivation collapses to the two-step point-forecast and perfect-information curves when the scenario set is a single value.

What would settle it

Regroup the DK1 2024 hours by the absolute day-ahead wind forecast error and compute the per-hour profit gap between the scenario-based and point-forecast curves; the paper's mechanism predicts the gap grows with forecast-error magnitude. Alternatively, solve the two-stage version of LP (14) with an intraday adjustment stage after the wind realization is known: if the scenario curve's roughly 4% profit advantage persists once real-time flexibility is available, the single-stage commitment is not the driver of the gain.

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Core claim

The paper's central claim is that renewable-generation uncertainty propagates into the value of hydrogen whenever a time-matching subsidy is awarded ex post, and that the profit-maximizing day-ahead bid curve of a grid-connected electrolyzer is the stepwise curve obtained from the Karush-Kuhn-Tucker conditions of a scenario-based linear program. The program (eq. 14) maximizes expected profit $\sum_s \rho_s \gamma_s - \lambda^{\mathrm{DA}} p^{\mathrm{DA}}$ over wind scenarios, with the hydrogen value $\gamma_s$ in each scenario capped by the green piece $\eta(\pi_{\mathrm{gray}}+\pi_{\mathrm{green}})p^{\mathrm{DA}}$ and the gray piece $\eta\pi_{\mathrm{gray}}p^{\mathrm{DA}}+\eta\pi_{\mathrm{green}}P^{\mathrm{RES}}_s$. The resulting bid price at quantity $q$ is $\eta(\pi_{\mathrm{gray}}+\pi_{\mathrm{green}}(1-\hat{F}_S(q)))$, where $\hat{F}_S$ is the empirical distribution of the sampled wind scenarios: the subsidy premium is paid only in the fraction of scenarios where the realized wind exceeds the bid quantity, a newsvendor-style critical-fractile rule. In the DK1 2024 case study, the scenario curve reaches 95% of the perfect-information profit against 91% for the point-forecast curve, while gray (non-matching) consumption increases by 25% relative to perfect information, versus 8% for the point forecast. On those numbers the paper concludes that uncertainty-aware bidding profits the electrolyzer but does not improve ex-post temporal matching, and that the increase in unmatched consumption may work against the emission goal of hourly-matching regulation.

Load-bearing premise

The day-ahead consumption decision is final: the electrolyzer cannot adjust its load in real time to match realized wind output, so subsidy eligibility is set by comparing the day-ahead quantity with the realized wind.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • An electrolyzer can submit the derived bid curve directly to a day-ahead market as a decreasing stepwise price-quantity curve, satisfying the convexity format of standard market-clearing algorithms.
  • Bidding on wind scenarios rather than the point forecast recovers roughly half of the 9% profit gap to perfect information (91% to 95%) while requiring no information beyond historical forecast errors.
  • The profit gain concentrates in hours with high day-ahead prices and large forecast errors, where the point-forecast curve produces about twice as many negative-profit hours.
  • Uncertainty-aware bidding increases gray consumption, load exceeding realized wind, from 8% to 25% above the perfect-information level, so the uncertainty-aware curve does not improve temporal matching and may weaken the emission-mitigation intent of hourly matching.
  • The advantage of the scenario curve shrinks as the gray hydrogen price rises or the green subsidy falls, so the distortion is largest precisely where the subsidy incentive is strongest.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Read as a newsvendor policy, the bid curve's markup over gray value is exactly the subsidy times the probability that wind exceeds the bid quantity; the gray-consumption increase is therefore structural, not an artifact of the specific scenarios — an electrolyzer facing ex-post eligibility is rationally willing to over-consume whenever the subsidy probability is high.
  • The roughly 4% advantage is an upper bound on the value of the single-stage commitment assumption: if the electrolyzer could adjust consumption in an intraday market after the wind realization, or use hydrogen storage to shift matched energy, the gap between scenario and point-forecast curves would shrink.
  • Because the case study uses aggregated DK1 onshore wind, whose spatial smoothing lowers forecast error, individual-farm temporal matching — the actual regulatory unit — should show larger profit gains and larger gray-consumption distortions than reported here.
  • A regulatory extension the paper leaves implicit: tying subsidy eligibility to day-ahead quantities as if they were final gives bidders an incentive to bid above the forecast; eligibility rules that allow intraday corrections or penalize persistent over-consumption would restore the temporal-matching incentive.
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Summary. The paper studies optimal day-ahead bidding for a grid-connected electrolyzer that must satisfy hourly temporal matching with a renewable source to receive a green-hydrogen subsidy. The authors formulate a linear program maximizing expected profit over wind-production scenarios, derive the optimal stepwise bid curve from its KKT conditions, and obtain a closed-form bid price equal to eta times (pi_gray plus pi_green times the probability that realized wind exceeds the bid quantity). A DK1 2024 case study compares three bid curves: point forecast, scenario based, and perfect information. The scenario curve reaches about 95% of the perfect-information profit versus 91% for the point-forecast curve, but it increases 'gray' consumption, defined as day-ahead cleared consumption exceeding realized wind, by about 25% relative to the perfect-information case and by more than the point-forecast curve. The paper concludes that uncertainty-aware bidding can improve profit while potentially distorting the temporal-matching incentive.

Significance. If the modeling assumptions hold, the paper makes a useful policy-relevant contribution: it provides a transparent, KKT-derived bid curve that is simple enough to be applied in practice, and it identifies a plausible conflict between profit-maximizing behavior under uncertainty and the temporal-matching objective of green-hydrogen regulation. The derivation in Appendix B is coherent, the scenario-generation method is causal and described in enough detail to be reproducible, and the case study uses public data with sensitivity analyses on the number of scenarios and on hydrogen prices. The authors also acknowledge the price-taker limitation and provide a separate price-impact check. The main open question is whether the day-ahead quantity can be treated as final consumption, which is the assumption underlying the headline profit and temporal-matching results.

major comments (2)
  1. [Section 2.4, Eq. (6), and Appendix B.2.1, LP (14)] The central profit comparison and the gray-consumption statistic treat the day-ahead cleared quantity q_curve* as the electrolyzer's actual consumption. If the electrolyzer can adjust its consumption in real time after observing the wind realization, as Section 1.5 itself acknowledges may be possible, then the subsidy-eligible volume and the value of hydrogen depend on realized consumption rather than on the day-ahead quantity pDA. In that case the roughly 4% profit advantage of the scenario curve and the 25% increase in gray consumption could shrink or disappear. This is a load-bearing assumption, so it should be stated explicitly as a modeling assumption; the paper should either add a real-time recourse sensitivity analysis or temper the policy conclusion in Section 3 accordingly.
  2. [Section 2.5.3, Fig. 12] The price-impact analysis is carried out only for the perfect-information bid curve, not for the point-forecast and scenario curves. Because the authors use this section to address the price-taker limitation of the main profit comparison, testing only one of the three curves leaves open the possibility that endogenous price responses would change the relative ranking that supports the headline 95% versus 91% result. At minimum, the text should state clearly that the price-impact analysis is not a comparison of the three bidding strategies.
minor comments (5)
  1. [Section 1.5] There is an incomplete sentence: 'enforcing that the electrolyzer never consumes more (or less) than the Common in all reviewed literature is that they base their conclusions...' The sentence appears to be missing a clause and should be repaired.
  2. [Appendix A] The forecast-error definition e_j = (Ptilde_RES_j - Phat_RES_j)/Phat_RES_j has a division-by-zero problem when Phat_RES_j = 0; the text should state how such cases are handled or excluded.
  3. [Appendix B.2.2] In the paragraph following the KKT conditions, the phrase 'at least one of the dual variables µgreen_s, µgreen_s' should read 'µgreen_s, µgray_s'; the current text repeats the same variable.
  4. [Appendix B.4.2] In case b, the text writes '0 < P_DA < P0', but P0 should be P^h; the same section later uses the notation inconsistently.
  5. [Appendix B.4.3] Equation (23d) contains a double negative: 'λDA - - ηπgray' should be 'λDA - ηπgray'.

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity: the bid-curve derivation is self-contained, the scenario distribution is estimated from past data, and the profit comparison is an out-of-sample evaluation.

full rationale

The derivation chain is self-contained. The bid curve is obtained from the KKT conditions of the linear program (14) in Appendix B.2.2, and the resulting price-quantity segments (24)-(31) follow algebraically from stationarity and complementary slackness; no parameter is fitted to the reported profit or temporal-matching outcomes. The scenario distribution is estimated from historical forecast errors using a rolling K-nearest-neighbor procedure (Appendix A) that uses only data preceding each hour, so the 2024 profit comparison is an out-of-sample evaluation rather than an in-sample fit. The profit metric uses the same hydrogen-value function gamma_s as the optimization, but that is the model's definition of profit under the stated temporal-matching rule, not a circular reuse of the predicted outcome. The roughly 4% profit improvement and 25% gray-consumption increase are empirical results of clearing the derived curves against historical DK1 prices and realized wind. The main caveat is that the model assumes day-ahead consumption is final (LP (14) has pDA as the only decision variable; Section 1.5 notes real-time flexibility could allow deviation), which affects external validity and the robustness of the policy conclusion, but this is an assumption about market flexibility, not a circular derivation. No load-bearing self-citations or imported uniqueness theorems appear; references to prior literature are contextual. Overall circularity score is therefore 0.

Assumptions & free parameters 7 free parameters · 5 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The central bid-curve derivation introduces no new physical entities. It rests on standard optimization theory and on domain assumptions about regulation and market behavior. The case study parameters are inputs, not fitted to the profit result, though the scenario distribution is estimated from historical data. The circularity burden is low.

free parameters (7)
  • Electrolyzer efficiency η = 18 kgH2/MWh
    Assumed constant conversion efficiency; used in the hydrogen value functions (eq. 1-2). Not fitted, but a case study assumption.
  • Gray hydrogen price πgray = 2 EUR/kg
    Assumed market price of gray hydrogen; sensitivity analyzed in Section 2.5.2.
  • Green hydrogen subsidy πgreen = 4 EUR/kg
    Assumed subsidy for renewable hydrogen; sensitivity analyzed in Section 2.5.2.
  • Electrolyzer capacity P_h = 50 MW
    Assumed capacity; price impact analysis considers 10, 50, 100 MW.
  • RES capacity = 66 MW
    Chosen as 1.32 times electrolyzer capacity; optimal sizing not addressed (Table 2).
  • Number of scenarios N = 10
    Base case; sensitivity analysis over N in Fig. 9.
  • Nearest neighbors K = 50
    Size of historical error sample pool; assumed in Appendix A.
assumptions (5)
  • domain assumption The hydrogen value function is the lower envelope of two linear pieces, with the gray piece's intercept set by the realized renewable output (eq. 8).
    Models the regulation that only consumption up to the realized renewable production gets the green subsidy (eq. 7-8 and Fig. 13).
  • domain assumption The electrolyzer is a price taker in the day-ahead market.
    The bid curve is evaluated against historical prices without modeling price formation, except in a sensitivity analysis in Section 2.5.3.
  • domain assumption The electrolyzer cannot adjust consumption after the day-ahead market.
    The LP (eq. 14) has pDA as the only decision variable; no recourse or balancing market is modeled.
  • domain assumption Historical forecast errors in the K-nearest-neighbor set are representative of the current hour's uncertainty.
    Scenario generation (Appendix A) samples past per-unit errors conditioned on similar forecasts; if the error distribution shifts, the bid curve is miscalibrated.
  • standard math Convex optimization and KKT conditions are valid for the linear program.
    Used throughout Appendix B to derive the bid curve.

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  title        = {Pith review of: Electrolyzers Bidding in Electricity Markets under Green Hydrogen Regulations and Uncertainty},
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Hydrogen produced through electrolysis offers a pathway to decarbonize hard-to-abate sectors by replacing gray hydrogen derived from natural gas reforming when produced using renewable power. However, grid-connected electrolyzers may inadvertently increase power-system emissions, resulting in hydrogen whose life-cycle intensity is similar to or higher than that of gray hydrogen. To address the high cost barrier of electrolytic hydrogen, both the E.U. and U.S. have introduced subsidy schemes conditional on low associated emissions. One key requirement is temporal matching, under which a subsidy applies only to the hydrogen volume that, ex-post, can be shown to match renewable generation over each one-hour interval. This requirement exposes the electrolyzer to uncertainty in the subsidy-eligible volume and thus the value of the produced hydrogen. This paper develops an uncertainty-aware day-ahead bid curve for a grid-connected electrolyzer. We formulate a linear program that maximizes expected profit across scenarios of renewable production and derive the bid curve from its Karush-Kuhn-Tucker conditions. A case study demonstrates that incorporating renewable uncertainty into the bid curve increases electrolyzer profit by approximately 4%, although it does not improve ex-post temporal matching. This finding highlights a potential distortion in the incentive effects of temporal-matching regulations when uncertainty is taken into account.

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Figure 1. Price-duration curve of the considered case [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Comparison between the continuous CDF, the empirical CDF and 1 - the empirical CDF for wind [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Illustration of the three general electrolyzer day-ahead bid curves. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_4.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Total (left) and distribution of (right) [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_5.png]
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Figure 7. Figure 7: Profit and schedule of each curve, day-ahead price and wind production (realized and forecasted) [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_7.png]
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Figure 8. Figure 8: Cumulative sum of the electrolyzers over-consumption compared to the realized wind production, [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p009_8.png]
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Figure 9. Figure 9: Profits as a percentage of the perfect information case with variations of sampling approach. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p010_9.png]
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Figure 10. Figure 10: Profit sensitivity towards the gray and green hydrogen prices. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p010_10.png]
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Figure 11. Figure 11: Green hydrogen sensitivity towards the gray and green hydrogen prices [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p011_11.png]
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Figure 12. Figure 12: The impact of various electrolyzer capacities on the cleared electricity price in Denmark, bidding [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p011_12.png]
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Figure 13. Figure 13: The piece-wise linear hydrogen value curve. The binding pieces are marked by full lines, and the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p016_13.png]
Figure 14
Figure 14. Figure 14: Value of hydrogen for a given P RES s [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p017_14.png]
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Figure 15. Figure 15: Optimal electrolyzer bid curve under two (increasing) scenarios of [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p018_15.png]
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Figure 16. Figure 16: Step-wise price–quantity bid curve. B.5 Derivation of the optimal bid curve To summarize, the conditions on the price-quantity pairs (λ DA, p DA) derived above describe the segments of the electrolyzer’s optimal bid curve. In particular, the following ranges of day-ah…

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