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arxiv: 2511.06077 · v3 · pith:EQWLRQYMnew · submitted 2025-11-08 · 💻 cs.LG · cs.IR

Make It Long, Keep It Fast: End-to-End 10K Long User Behavior Sequence Modeling for Billion-Scale Douyin Recommendation

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keywords long sequence modelingcross attentionuser behavior sequencesrecommendation systemslength extrapolationindustrial deploymentscaling lawsproduction latency
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Stacked target-to-history cross attention and request-level batching let recommendation systems model 10K-length user histories end-to-end at production scale.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper sets out to prove that extremely long user behavior sequences can be incorporated into large-scale recommendation models without violating latency or cost constraints. It replaces quadratic self-attention over histories with linear stacked cross-attention from each target item to the history, shares user encoding across multiple targets via request-level batching, and trains on shorter windows to generalize to longer ones at inference. These changes produce monotonic gains in offline and online metrics that follow scaling-law patterns. A sympathetic reader cares because the approach shows a concrete route to richer, history-aware recommendations in real-time industrial systems.

Core claim

The system replaces history self-attention with Stacked Target-to-History Cross Attention to achieve linear complexity in sequence length, introduces Request Level Batching to aggregate targets for the same user and share encoding costs, and applies length-extrapolative training so that models trained on shorter sequences can be deployed on 10K-length histories. These techniques together enable end-to-end training and inference at the 10K regime while preserving the original learning objective and production latency requirements.

What carries the argument

Stacked Target-to-History Cross Attention (STCA), which performs repeated cross-attention layers from the target item representation to the full user history sequence, turning quadratic self-attention into linear complexity while preserving interaction modeling.

If this is right

  • Recommendation quality improves monotonically and predictably as history length scales from hundreds to 10K items.
  • Gains mirror the scaling laws seen in large language models when both sequence length and model capacity are increased.
  • End-to-end training over long sequences becomes feasible without quadratic compute or memory blow-up.
  • Production systems can adopt the same architecture at full traffic while meeting strict latency targets.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The linear scaling may allow sequence lengths to grow further in future deployments as hardware improves.
  • Similar cross-attention and batching patterns could transfer to other domains that rely on long user or session histories.
  • Dynamic history truncation at inference time could be tuned per user without retraining.

Load-bearing premise

Training on shorter sequence windows produces a model that generalizes without loss to much longer histories at inference time.

What would settle it

Measure offline and online metrics after training exclusively on sequences shorter than 2K and then running inference on full 10K histories; if accuracy drops or latency exceeds the budget relative to a shorter-history baseline, the extrapolation claim fails.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2511.06077 by Beichuan Zhang, Bo Sun, Feng Zhang, Hangyu Wang, Jia-Qi Yang, Jinan Ni, Lin Guan, Qiwei Chen, Xiaowen Li, Xiao Yang, Xuanyuan Luo, Yi Cheng, Yuhang Qi, Zhifang Fan, Zhishan Zhao.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: Scaling with sequence length and model capacity. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p002_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: Overview of our long-history ranking stack. (A) Stacked Target Cross Attention: single-query cross attention from the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: Compute–quality scaling of STCA vs Trans [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_3.png] view at source ↗
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Short-video recommenders such as Douyin must exploit extremely long user behavior histories without breaking latency or cost budgets. We present an end-to-end industrial recommender system that scales long-sequence recommendation modeling to 10K-length histories in production. First, we introduce Stacked Target-to-History Cross Attention (STCA), which replaces history self-attention with stacked cross-attention from the target to the history, reducing complexity from quadratic to linear in sequence length and enabling efficient end-to-end training over long user behavior sequences. Second, we propose Request Level Batching (RLB), a user-centric batching scheme that aggregates multiple targets for the same user/request to share the user-side encoding, substantially lowering sequence-related storage, communication, and compute without changing the learning objective. Third, we design a length-extrapolative training strategy -- train on shorter windows, infer on much longer ones -- so the model generalizes to 10K-scale histories without additional training cost. Across offline and online experiments, we observe predictable, monotonic gains as we scale history length and model capacity, mirroring the scaling law behavior observed in large language models. Deployed at full traffic on Douyin, our system delivers significant improvements on key engagement metrics while meeting production latency, demonstrating a practical path to scaling end-to-end ultra-long sequence recommendation to the 10K regime.

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper claims to scale end-to-end user behavior sequence modeling to 10K-length histories in a billion-scale short-video recommender (Douyin). It introduces Stacked Target-to-History Cross Attention (STCA) to replace quadratic self-attention with linear stacked cross-attention from target to history, Request Level Batching (RLB) to share user encodings across multiple targets per request, and a length-extrapolative training strategy that trains on shorter windows and infers on 10K histories. Offline and online experiments report monotonic gains with increased history length and model capacity; the system is deployed at full traffic with significant engagement metric improvements while satisfying production latency constraints.

Significance. If the empirical results and deployment claims hold under scrutiny, the work provides a concrete, production-validated path for linear-complexity long-sequence modeling in industrial recommenders. The combination of architectural simplification (STCA), batching efficiency (RLB), and training-time extrapolation offers a practical template that could influence scaling strategies beyond the current 1K–2K regime common in the field, especially where latency budgets preclude full self-attention.

major comments (2)
  1. [§3.3] §3.3 (length-extrapolative training): The claim that training on shorter windows generalizes to 10K inference without degradation or extra cost is central to the scaling narrative, yet the manuscript provides no ablation isolating attention score distributions, positional signal fidelity, or ranking calibration at 10K versus the training length. Without such diagnostics, it remains unclear whether observed gains stem from true extrapolation or from simply exposing more history at test time under a fixed training distribution.
  2. [§4.1–4.2] §4.1–4.2 (offline experiments): The reported monotonic gains and scaling-law behavior are presented without error bars, statistical significance tests, or ablation tables that isolate STCA, RLB, and the extrapolation strategy. This makes it difficult to assess robustness of the central claim that the system delivers predictable improvements at 10K scale.
minor comments (2)
  1. [§3.1] Notation for STCA stacking depth and cross-attention heads is introduced without an explicit equation or diagram showing how the stacked layers compose; a small illustrative figure would improve clarity.
  2. [§3.2] The description of Request Level Batching would benefit from a concrete example of storage/communication savings for a typical user with multiple targets per request.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the constructive and detailed feedback. We address each major comment below, clarifying our approach and committing to revisions where the manuscript can be strengthened.

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  1. Referee: [§3.3] §3.3 (length-extrapolative training): The claim that training on shorter windows generalizes to 10K inference without degradation or extra cost is central to the scaling narrative, yet the manuscript provides no ablation isolating attention score distributions, positional signal fidelity, or ranking calibration at 10K versus the training length. Without such diagnostics, it remains unclear whether observed gains stem from true extrapolation or from simply exposing more history at test time under a fixed training distribution.

    Authors: We agree that explicit diagnostics on attention score distributions, positional signal fidelity, and ranking calibration at extended lengths would provide stronger support for the extrapolation claim. The original manuscript emphasizes the observed monotonic gains and production results but does not include these specific ablations. In the revised version we will add an analysis (in §3.3 or an appendix) comparing attention distributions and ranking metrics (e.g., NDCG and calibration error) for models trained on shorter windows and evaluated at 10K, to better separate the contribution of extrapolation from the benefit of additional history. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [§4.1–4.2] §4.1–4.2 (offline experiments): The reported monotonic gains and scaling-law behavior are presented without error bars, statistical significance tests, or ablation tables that isolate STCA, RLB, and the extrapolation strategy. This makes it difficult to assess robustness of the central claim that the system delivers predictable improvements at 10K scale.

    Authors: We acknowledge that the absence of error bars, formal significance tests, and component-wise ablation tables limits the ability to evaluate robustness. The current presentation focuses on the overall scaling trends and deployment outcomes. In the revised manuscript we will augment §4.1 and §4.2 with error bars on the scaling plots, report statistical significance for the key improvements, and include a consolidated ablation table that isolates the individual and joint contributions of STCA, RLB, and length-extrapolative training. revision: yes

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full rationale

The paper introduces STCA (stacked target-to-history cross-attention for linear complexity), RLB (request-level batching), and a length-extrapolative training strategy (train short, infer long). These are architectural and procedural proposals whose benefits are reported from offline experiments, online A/B tests, and production deployment on Douyin. No equations, self-citations, or fitted parameters are shown to reduce the claimed scaling gains or generalization to the inputs by construction. The length-extrapolation claim rests on observed monotonic improvements rather than a tautological redefinition or self-referential theorem.

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Only the abstract is available, so no explicit free parameters, axioms, or invented entities can be extracted. The work appears to rely on standard transformer attention variants and industrial engineering assumptions rather than new theoretical postulates.

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