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arxiv: 2512.04457 · v2 · pith:PO5O4JZZnew · submitted 2025-12-04 · 💻 cs.CL

RapidUn: Influence-Driven Parameter Reweighting for Efficient Large Language Model Unlearning

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keywords LLM unlearninginfluence estimationparameter reweightingmachine unlearninglarge language modelsforget setadaptive updates
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RapidUn enables efficient LLM unlearning by reweighting parameters according to per-sample influence estimates.

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The paper presents RapidUn as a new framework for removing the influence of specific data from large language models. It uses a fast module to estimate how much each sample affects the model parameters and then translates these estimates into weights that adaptively control the unlearning updates. This targeted approach aims to forget unwanted information or behaviors while keeping the rest of the model's knowledge intact. Experiments on Mistral-7B and Llama-3-8B demonstrate substantial speedups over retraining and better results than previous unlearning techniques across different forgetting scenarios.

Core claim

RapidUn is an influence-driven and parameter-efficient unlearning framework. It first estimates per-sample influence through a fast estimation module, then maps these scores into adaptive update weights that guide selective parameter updates -- forgetting harmful behavior while retaining general knowledge.

What carries the argument

The fast influence estimation module and its mapping to adaptive update weights, which directs selective updates to parameters based on each sample's computed influence.

If this is right

  • Up to 100 times higher efficiency compared to full retraining for unlearning tasks.
  • Consistent outperformance over Fisher, GA, and LoReUn methods on both in-distribution and out-of-distribution forgetting.
  • Applicability to models such as Mistral-7B and Llama-3-8B with datasets like Dolly-15k and Alpaca-57k.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If the influence estimates are reliable, this method could generalize to unlearning in other AI domains like vision models.
  • The adaptive weights might offer a way to interpret which parameters are most affected by specific data points.
  • Future work could test the method on even larger models or more complex forget sets to validate scalability.

Load-bearing premise

The fast influence estimation accurately reflects the true effect of each sample on the model parameters and behavior.

What would settle it

Running the unlearning with the influence scores replaced by random values and observing if performance degrades to match or fall below baseline methods would test the necessity of the influence-driven weighting.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2512.04457 by Guoshenghui Zhao, Huawei Lin, Weijie Zhao.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: Influence-blind vs. Influence-guided un￾learning. (a) Existing approximate methods apply nearly uniform ascent on forget data, often under￾forgetting or harming clean behavior. (b) RapidUn uses the RapidIn influence estimator to derive bounded per-sample weights that steer LoRA updates, enabling targeted forgetting while preserving utility. Arrow thick￾ness encodes update strength (thicker arrows indicate … view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: Overview of the RapidUn framework. Given a fine-tuned model θ, a small forget set Df , and a retain set Dr, RapidUn (1) estimates sample influences via RapidIn, (2) maps influences to per-sample weights, and (3) performs LoRA-based weighted ascent/descent to remove undesirable behavior while preserving utility. and Dunwanted ⊂ Dtrain the portion whose influence we wish to erase. We are given a small forget… view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: Training dynamics with four methods. Per￾plexity (PPL) vs. training steps on three evaluation splits for RapidUn, GA, Fisher, and LoReUn. RapidUn achieves the lowest PPL on clean and forget-clean (bet￾ter retention and recovery) and the highest PPL on forget-poison (stronger suppression). LoReUn is the closest runner-up; GA is intermediate; Fisher converges more slowly and forgets less. Variant Clean PPL (… view at source ↗
Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Aggregate comparison across Llama-3-8B (a) and Mistral-7B (b) on Dolly-15k. Combined radar plots showing normalized performance of all evaluated methods, including approximate unlearning approaches and non-unlearning baselines, on Clean PPL, Seen ASR, and OOD ASR. model yields consistent results ( [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_4.png] view at source ↗
read the original abstract

Removing specific data influence from large language models (LLMs) remains challenging, as retraining is costly and existing approximate unlearning methods are often unstable. The challenge is exacerbated when the forget set is small or imbalanced. We introduce RapidUn, an influence-driven and parameter-efficient unlearning framework. It first estimates per-sample influence through a fast estimation module, then maps these scores into adaptive update weights that guide selective parameter updates -- forgetting harmful behavior while retaining general knowledge. On Mistral-7B and Llama-3-8B across Dolly-15k and Alpaca-57k, RapidUn achieves up to 100 times higher efficiency than full retraining and consistently outperforms Fisher, GA, and LoReUn on both in-distribution and out-of-distribution forgetting. These results establish influence-guided parameter reweighting as a scalable and interpretable paradigm for LLM unlearning.

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Referee Report

2 major / 1 minor

Summary. The paper proposes RapidUn, an influence-driven parameter reweighting framework for efficient LLM unlearning. It estimates per-sample influence scores via a fast estimation module and maps them to adaptive update weights to guide selective parameter updates, aiming to forget specific data while retaining general capabilities. Experiments on Mistral-7B and Llama-3-8B with Dolly-15k and Alpaca-57k report up to 100x efficiency gains over full retraining and consistent outperformance versus Fisher, GA, and LoReUn on both in-distribution forgetting and out-of-distribution retention.

Significance. If the fast influence module reliably approximates true per-sample effects, the method could advance practical unlearning for large models by avoiding costly retraining while providing an interpretable reweighting mechanism. The reported efficiency and cross-model results on standard benchmarks indicate potential for scalable applications, though this hinges on unvalidated assumptions about the estimation accuracy.

major comments (2)
  1. [§3] §3 (Fast Influence Estimation Module): The central mapping from estimated scores to adaptive update weights assumes the fast module accurately proxies true influence on model parameters and behavior, but no correlation, ablation, or comparison to exact baselines (full gradients, leave-one-out retraining, or Hessian-based ground truth) is reported for Mistral-7B or Llama-3-8B on the forget sets.
  2. [§4] §4 (Experiments): Claims of consistent outperformance and 100x efficiency lack reported error bars, statistical significance tests, details on random seeds, number of runs, or controls for small/imbalanced forget sets, making it difficult to confirm the results are robust rather than sensitive to particular splits or initializations.
minor comments (1)
  1. [§3.1] The description of how influence scores are normalized or thresholded before mapping to weights could include a small concrete example for clarity.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

2 responses · 1 unresolved

We appreciate the referee's detailed feedback on our manuscript. We have carefully considered the major comments regarding the validation of our fast influence estimation module and the statistical robustness of our experimental results. Below, we provide point-by-point responses and indicate the revisions we plan to make in the next version of the paper.

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  1. Referee: [§3] §3 (Fast Influence Estimation Module): The central mapping from estimated scores to adaptive update weights assumes the fast module accurately proxies true influence on model parameters and behavior, but no correlation, ablation, or comparison to exact baselines (full gradients, leave-one-out retraining, or Hessian-based ground truth) is reported for Mistral-7B or Llama-3-8B on the forget sets.

    Authors: We thank the referee for highlighting this important point. Computing exact influence measures such as full gradients or Hessian-based methods for 7B and 8B parameter models on datasets like Dolly-15k is computationally prohibitive, often requiring orders of magnitude more resources than the unlearning process itself. Our fast estimation module builds on established approximations from influence function literature to enable practical application. To address this, we will revise Section 3 to include a more detailed explanation of the module's design rationale, its assumptions, and limitations. This constitutes a partial revision as full-scale exact validations remain infeasible. revision: partial

  2. Referee: [§4] §4 (Experiments): Claims of consistent outperformance and 100x efficiency lack reported error bars, statistical significance tests, details on random seeds, number of runs, or controls for small/imbalanced forget sets, making it difficult to confirm the results are robust rather than sensitive to particular splits or initializations.

    Authors: We agree that additional statistical reporting would strengthen the presentation of our results. The experiments were conducted using a fixed random seed for reproducibility across the reported runs, but we acknowledge the value of multiple runs and error bars. In the revised manuscript, we will update Section 4 to report results averaged over multiple random seeds (e.g., 3-5 runs) with standard deviations as error bars where computational resources permit. We will also specify the seeds used, include statistical significance tests (such as paired t-tests) comparing RapidUn to baselines, and add discussion on handling small or imbalanced forget sets, including any controls like balanced sampling or subset-specific metrics. This will be incorporated as a full revision. revision: yes

standing simulated objections not resolved
  • We cannot provide direct comparisons to exact baselines like Hessian-based ground truth or leave-one-out retraining for the full-scale Mistral-7B and Llama-3-8B models due to prohibitive computational costs.

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity in derivation chain

full rationale

The paper presents RapidUn as an empirical unlearning framework that estimates per-sample influence via a fast module and maps scores to adaptive weights for selective updates. Claims of efficiency (up to 100x vs retraining) and outperformance vs Fisher/GA/LoReUn are supported by direct comparisons on Mistral-7B and Llama-3-8B using Dolly-15k and Alpaca-57k. No steps reduce outputs to inputs by construction, no fitted parameters are relabeled as predictions, and no load-bearing self-citations or uniqueness theorems are invoked. The central method remains independent of its own results and relies on external benchmarks.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

With only the abstract available, the ledger is limited; the method assumes influence functions can be approximated efficiently and that these approximations guide effective forgetting without side effects on retained knowledge.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Per-sample influence can be estimated rapidly without full Hessian or retraining computations
    Central to the fast estimation module described in the abstract.

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