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arxiv: 2602.01103 · v2 · submitted 2026-02-01 · 💻 cs.AI

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Probing RLVR training instability through the lens of objective-level hacking

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classification 💻 cs.AI
keywords RLVRtraining instabilityMixture-of-Expertsobjective-level hackingtraining-inference discrepancycredit misalignmentreinforcement learning
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The pith

Objective-level hacking from token-level credit misalignment drives abnormal training-inference discrepancy growth in MoE RLVR training.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper introduces a framework that explains instabilities during prolonged reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards, particularly in Mixture-of-Experts models. It identifies objective-level hacking as distinct from reward hacking and traces it to token-level credit misalignment that injects spurious signals into the optimization objective. Experiments on a 30B MoE model formalize how this misalignment produces the widely observed abnormal growth in the gap between training and inference performance. A sympathetic reader would care because this account supplies a causal mechanism for a phenomenon that otherwise blocks sustained gains in reasoning capability.

Core claim

We introduce a principled framework for understanding RLVR instability through the lens of objective-level hacking, which emerges from token-level credit misalignment and is manifested as system-level spurious signals in the optimization objective. Grounded in this framework together with extensive experiments on a 30B MoE model, we trace the origin and formalize the mechanism behind the abnormal growth of the training-inference discrepancy, a phenomenon widely associated with instability but previously lacking a mechanistic explanation.

What carries the argument

The objective-level hacking framework, which links token-level credit misalignment to spurious signals that appear at the system level in the RLVR objective.

If this is right

  • Stable RLVR algorithms can be designed by targeting mitigation of token-level credit misalignment to prevent discrepancy growth.
  • MoE models can sustain continuous reasoning improvements during RLVR without the instabilities previously observed.
  • The training-inference discrepancy can be explained as a direct consequence of objective-level spurious signals rather than treated as an unexplained pathology.
  • Algorithm design guidance follows from identifying the causal chain from misalignment through spurious signals to instability.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same token-credit mechanism may operate in non-MoE architectures where credit assignment is distributed across components.
  • New credit-assignment or loss-shaping techniques could be developed to align token-level and objective-level signals more closely.
  • Monitoring growth in the training-inference discrepancy could serve as an early diagnostic for the onset of objective-level hacking.

Load-bearing premise

Objective-level hacking driven by token-level credit misalignment is the primary driver of the observed instabilities rather than reward hacking or unexamined architectural effects.

What would settle it

An experiment that modifies the RLVR objective to explicitly correct token-level credit misalignment and then checks whether the training-inference discrepancy still grows abnormally would settle the claim.

read the original abstract

Prolonged reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards (RLVR) has been shown to drive continuous improvements in the reasoning capabilities of large language models, but the training is often prone to instabilities, especially in Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) architectures. Training instability severely undermines model capability improvement, yet its underlying causes and mechanisms remain poorly understood. In this work, we introduce a principled framework for understanding RLVR instability through the lens of objective-level hacking. Unlike reward hacking, which arises from exploitable verifiers, objective-level hacking emerges from token-level credit misalignment and is manifested as system-level spurious signals in the optimization objective. Grounded in our framework, together with extensive experiments on a 30B MoE model, we trace the origin and formalize the mechanism behind a key pathological training dynamic in MoE models: the abnormal growth of the training-inference discrepancy, a phenomenon widely associated with instability but previously lacking a mechanistic explanation. These findings provide a concrete and causal account of the training dynamics underlying instabilities in MoE models, offering guidance for the design of stable RLVR algorithms.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 1 minor

Summary. The manuscript introduces a framework for understanding instabilities in reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards (RLVR) applied to Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) models. It attributes these instabilities to objective-level hacking arising from token-level credit misalignment, which produces system-level spurious signals in the optimization objective. Grounded in this framework and experiments on a 30B MoE model, the authors trace and formalize the mechanism behind the abnormal growth of the training-inference discrepancy, distinguishing it from reward hacking and offering guidance for stable RLVR algorithm design.

Significance. If the framework and causal account are substantiated, the work could provide a valuable mechanistic explanation for a widely observed but poorly understood instability in large-scale MoE RLVR training, potentially guiding more robust algorithm design. The distinction between objective-level hacking and reward hacking is a potentially useful conceptual contribution, though its significance is currently limited by the absence of detailed formalizations, derivations, or robustness checks in the reported experiments.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: The central claim that objective-level hacking from token-level credit misalignment is the primary driver of training-inference discrepancy growth requires experimental isolation from MoE routing dynamics and reward hacking. The 30B MoE experiments do not report controls that hold routing entropy or verifier exploitability fixed while varying only credit assignment, leaving the causality of the proposed mechanism unestablished.
  2. [Abstract] Abstract: The framework is described as principled and the mechanism as formalized, yet no equations, definitions of objective-level hacking, or derivations are provided to allow evaluation of whether the account is parameter-free, internally consistent, or reducible to self-referential signals.
minor comments (1)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: The contrast between objective-level hacking and reward hacking is stated but not defined with sufficient precision; a formal definition section would clarify the distinction for readers.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

2 responses · 0 unresolved

We thank the referee for their constructive comments, which help clarify the evidential basis for our claims. We respond point-by-point to the major comments below.

read point-by-point responses
  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: The central claim that objective-level hacking from token-level credit misalignment is the primary driver of training-inference discrepancy growth requires experimental isolation from MoE routing dynamics and reward hacking. The 30B MoE experiments do not report controls that hold routing entropy or verifier exploitability fixed while varying only credit assignment, leaving the causality of the proposed mechanism unestablished.

    Authors: We agree that the reported 30B experiments are observational rather than featuring explicit ablations that hold routing entropy and verifier exploitability fixed. The causal account is derived from the framework by tracing how token-level credit misalignment produces spurious objective signals that accumulate into training-inference discrepancy growth, with supporting correlations observed across training checkpoints. To address the concern, we will add a dedicated paragraph in the discussion section explicitly stating the inferential limits of the current experiments and outlining the design of future controlled studies that could isolate credit assignment. revision: partial

  2. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: The framework is described as principled and the mechanism as formalized, yet no equations, definitions of objective-level hacking, or derivations are provided to allow evaluation of whether the account is parameter-free, internally consistent, or reducible to self-referential signals.

    Authors: Section 3 of the manuscript defines objective-level hacking as the emergence of system-level spurious gradients from token-level credit misalignment and provides the corresponding objective function together with the discrepancy metric. A short derivation shows how the misalignment term produces a self-reinforcing component in the policy gradient that is independent of verifier exploitability. We will revise the abstract and the opening of Section 3 to foreground these definitions and equations so that readers can immediately assess internal consistency and parameter independence. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity; framework is observational and experimentally grounded

full rationale

The paper introduces a principled framework for RLVR instability via objective-level hacking and traces the training-inference discrepancy growth in MoE models through extensive experiments on a 30B model. No equations, fitted parameters, or self-citations are presented that reduce any claimed prediction or mechanism to the inputs by construction. The central account relies on empirical observations of credit misalignment effects rather than self-definitional loops, ansatz smuggling, or load-bearing self-citations. The derivation chain remains self-contained against external benchmarks.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 1 invented entities

Only abstract available; ledger populated from stated concepts. No explicit free parameters or invented physical entities described.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Token-level credit misalignment produces system-level spurious signals in the RL objective
    Core premise of the objective-level hacking framework invoked to explain instability.
invented entities (1)
  • objective-level hacking no independent evidence
    purpose: Mechanistic explanation for RLVR instability distinct from reward hacking
    New term and concept introduced to account for observed training dynamics.

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