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Delay-Doppler Channel Estimation using Arbitrarily Modulated Data Transmissions
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The pith
Arbitrarily modulated data transmissions can replace dedicated pilots for accurate delay-Doppler channel estimation without sending them in every coherence interval.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
The paper establishes that data symbols modulated with arbitrary waveforms contain sufficient excitation and structure to support accurate delay-Doppler channel estimation, removing the requirement to transmit dedicated pilot frames in every coherence time interval.
What carries the argument
Data-based delay-Doppler estimation that treats arbitrarily modulated transmissions as the probing signal for tracking channel parameters.
Load-bearing premise
Arbitrarily modulated data transmissions contain sufficient excitation and structure to enable accurate delay-Doppler channel estimation without dedicated pilots in every coherence interval.
What would settle it
A simulation or over-the-air test on a practical doubly-selective channel model in which the data-based estimator produces errors large enough that the overall effective data rate falls below the rate achieved by conventional pilot-based estimation.
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Conventional delay-Doppler (DD) communication and sensing systems require transmitting pilot frames at every channel coherence time interval in order to keep track of channel variations at the cost of spectral efficiency. In this paper, we propose an approach to utilize data transmissions modulated using arbitrary waveforms for DD channel estimation without requiring pilot transmissions in every coherence time interval. Numerical evaluation over practical doubly-selective channel models demonstrate $\sim 1.8 \times$ improvement in spectral efficiency with our proposed data-based approach over conventional pilot-based approaches across various 6G modulation schemes.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper proposes using arbitrarily modulated data transmissions for delay-Doppler channel estimation without dedicated pilots in every coherence interval. It claims that numerical evaluations over practical doubly-selective channel models demonstrate approximately 1.8 times improvement in spectral efficiency relative to conventional pilot-based approaches, and that this holds across various 6G modulation schemes.
Significance. If the data-aided approach achieves pilot-comparable estimation accuracy without the associated overhead, the result would be significant for spectral-efficiency gains in high-mobility 6G delay-Doppler systems.
major comments (2)
- [Abstract] Abstract: the claim of a ∼1.8× spectral-efficiency gain is asserted on the basis of numerical evaluation, yet the abstract supplies no description of the estimation algorithm, data-exclusion rules, error metrics, or baseline implementations, preventing any assessment of whether the reported numbers support the central claim.
- [Abstract] Abstract: the weakest assumption—that arbitrarily modulated data transmissions contain sufficient excitation and structure to enable accurate delay-Doppler estimation at pilot-level accuracy without dedicated pilots every coherence interval—is stated without supporting analysis, derivation, or discussion of convergence/error-floor behavior under realistic modulation, SNR, and Doppler conditions.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the constructive comments on our manuscript. We address each major comment below and will revise the abstract accordingly to improve clarity and support for the central claims.
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the claim of a ∼1.8× spectral-efficiency gain is asserted on the basis of numerical evaluation, yet the abstract supplies no description of the estimation algorithm, data-exclusion rules, error metrics, or baseline implementations, preventing any assessment of whether the reported numbers support the central claim.
Authors: We agree that the abstract's brevity omits these specifics. In the revised version, we will expand the abstract to briefly outline the data-aided delay-Doppler estimation algorithm, mention the data-exclusion rules employed to mitigate interference from unknown symbols, specify the normalized mean squared error (NMSE) metric used for accuracy assessment, and clarify that the baseline is conventional pilot-based estimation with dedicated pilots transmitted in every coherence interval. The full algorithmic details, exclusion criteria, and simulation setups are provided in Sections III and IV of the manuscript, where the ∼1.8× spectral efficiency improvement is quantified over practical doubly-selective channels. revision: yes
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the weakest assumption—that arbitrarily modulated data transmissions contain sufficient excitation and structure to enable accurate delay-Doppler estimation at pilot-level accuracy without dedicated pilots every coherence interval—is stated without supporting analysis, derivation, or discussion of convergence/error-floor behavior under realistic modulation, SNR, and Doppler conditions.
Authors: The manuscript body contains the supporting analysis, including the derivation of the data-aided estimator and numerical results demonstrating pilot-comparable accuracy across 6G modulations (e.g., OFDM, OTFS variants), with explicit evaluation of NMSE convergence and error floors versus SNR and maximum Doppler spread. However, we acknowledge that the abstract does not reference these aspects. We will revise the abstract to include a concise statement noting that the approach achieves the reported accuracy under the evaluated conditions without dedicated pilots in every interval, and we will ensure the main text highlights the observed error-floor behavior. If desired, we can add a short paragraph on the excitation properties of arbitrary data waveforms. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity: empirical simulation of data-aided estimator is self-contained
full rationale
The paper proposes a method to perform delay-Doppler channel estimation from arbitrarily modulated data transmissions and validates the resulting spectral-efficiency gain through numerical evaluation over doubly-selective channel models. No equations or steps in the derivation chain reduce by construction to fitted parameters, self-definitions, or self-citation load-bearing premises; the 1.8× improvement is reported as an observed outcome of the simulations rather than a tautological prediction. The approach is therefore self-contained against external benchmarks.
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