Coherence dynamics in Simon's quantum algorithm
Pith reviewed 2026-05-10 07:48 UTC · model grok-4.3
The pith
Coherence in Simon's quantum algorithm increases with the dimension N and is produced overall for N greater than 4.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
The coherences of the first register and the second register both rely on the dimension N of the state spaces of the n-qubit systems and increase with the increase of N. The oracle operator O does not change the coherence. In overall the coherence is in production when N>4 and in depletion when N<4.
What carries the argument
Coherence measures via Tsallis relative alpha-entropy and l1,p norm applied to the two registers during the unitary steps of Simon's algorithm.
If this is right
- Coherence of both registers increases as the state-space dimension N grows.
- The oracle operator leaves the coherence of the state unchanged at every step.
- The full algorithm produces a net gain in coherence when N exceeds 4.
- The full algorithm produces a net loss in coherence when N is less than 4.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The size-dependent production or depletion of coherence may influence how well the algorithm distinguishes periods for small versus large systems.
- The transition at N=4 offers a concrete point for numerical checks on small quantum simulators.
- Similar tracking of coherence could be applied to other period-finding or hidden-subgroup algorithms to see if the same N threshold appears.
Load-bearing premise
The chosen mathematical definitions accurately capture the quantum coherence that matters for the algorithm, and Simon's algorithm is implemented in its standard n-qubit circuit form.
What would settle it
Compute the two coherence measures on the state after each gate in Simon's algorithm for n=1 (N=2) and for n=3 (N=8), then check whether the net change from start to finish is negative for N=2 and positive for N=8.
read the original abstract
Quantum coherence plays a pivotal role in quantum algorithms. We study the coherence dynamics of the evolved states in Simon's quantum algorithm based on Tsallis relative $\alpha$ entropy and $l_{1,p}$ norm. We prove that the coherences of the first register and the second register both rely on the dimension $N$ of the state spaces of the $n$ qubit systems, and increase with the increase of $N$. We show that the oracle operator $O$ does not change the coherence. Moreover, we study the coherence dynamics in the Simon's quantum algorithm and prove that in overall the coherence is in production when $N>4$ and in depletion when $N<4$.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript analyzes coherence dynamics in Simon's quantum algorithm using the Tsallis relative α-entropy and the l_{1,p} norm of coherence. It claims to prove that coherence in both the first and second registers depends on the dimension N=2^n of the n-qubit systems and increases with N, that the oracle operator O leaves coherence invariant, and that overall coherence undergoes production for N>4 and depletion for N<4.
Significance. If the derivations hold, the work offers a quantitative resource-theoretic view of coherence evolution through the standard steps of Simon's algorithm. The reported oracle invariance and the N-dependent production/depletion threshold could illuminate how coherence scales with system size in query algorithms. Agreement between two distinct coherence measures would strengthen the robustness of the conclusions.
major comments (2)
- [Coherence dynamics section (around the proofs of N-dependence and threshold)] The abstract and main claims assert explicit proofs of N-dependence, oracle invariance, and the production/depletion threshold at N=4, yet the manuscript does not display the explicit state vectors after each gate, the intermediate coherence expressions, or the algebraic steps that yield these results. Without these derivations (including any error analysis or closed-form expressions for the coherence change ΔC(N)), the central claims cannot be verified.
- [Section on overall coherence dynamics] The switch from depletion to production at exactly N=4 is presented as a proven result, but it is unclear whether this threshold follows analytically from the sign of ΔC or is identified numerically/post-hoc. The manuscript should derive the condition under which the net coherence change changes sign as a function of N for both measures.
minor comments (2)
- [Definitions of coherence measures] Clarify the range of the parameter α in the Tsallis relative entropy and confirm that the reported N-dependence holds for the chosen α (or is independent of it).
- [Results for registers] Specify the precise definition of the l_{1,p} norm used and whether p is fixed or varied; include a brief comparison of the numerical values obtained from both measures at each algorithm step.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the careful reading and constructive comments on our manuscript. We address each major comment below and have revised the manuscript to improve the explicitness of the derivations.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: [Coherence dynamics section (around the proofs of N-dependence and threshold)] The abstract and main claims assert explicit proofs of N-dependence, oracle invariance, and the production/depletion threshold at N=4, yet the manuscript does not display the explicit state vectors after each gate, the intermediate coherence expressions, or the algebraic steps that yield these results. Without these derivations (including any error analysis or closed-form expressions for the coherence change ΔC(N)), the central claims cannot be verified.
Authors: We agree that the intermediate derivations were not presented with sufficient detail. In the revised manuscript we now include the explicit state vectors after each gate, the intermediate expressions for both the Tsallis relative α-entropy and the l_{1,p} norm of coherence, the full algebraic steps establishing N-dependence and oracle invariance, and the closed-form expression for ΔC(N) together with a brief discussion of numerical precision. revision: yes
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Referee: [Section on overall coherence dynamics] The switch from depletion to production at exactly N=4 is presented as a proven result, but it is unclear whether this threshold follows analytically from the sign of ΔC or is identified numerically/post-hoc. The manuscript should derive the condition under which the net coherence change changes sign as a function of N for both measures.
Authors: The threshold is obtained analytically. We derive the net change ΔC(N) in closed form for both measures, then solve ΔC(N)=0 to obtain the transition point N=4. The sign of ΔC(N) is positive for N>4 (production) and negative for N<4 (depletion). This analytic condition, rather than a numerical observation, is now stated explicitly in the revised section. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity; derivations are direct applications of chosen measures
full rationale
The paper defines coherence via Tsallis relative α-entropy and l_{1,p} norm, then computes these quantities explicitly on the initial, post-oracle, and final states of the standard Simon circuit for n qubits (dimension N=2^n). The N-dependence, oracle invariance, and net production/depletion threshold at N=4 emerge as algebraic consequences of those definitions applied to the known superposition and measurement steps; no equation reduces to a fitted parameter, self-referential definition, or load-bearing self-citation. The central claims remain independent of the inputs once the two coherence quantifiers and the circuit are fixed.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (2)
- domain assumption Standard n-qubit Hilbert space and unitary evolution for Simon's algorithm
- domain assumption Tsallis relative α entropy and l_{1,p} norm are valid and complete quantifiers of quantum coherence
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