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Maistros: A Greek Large Language Model Adapted Through Knowledge Distillation From Large Reasoning Models

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Pith's one-line read An 8B Greek LLM distilled from large reasoning models outperforms other open models on Greek QA benchmarks.

desk verdict This paper gives a usable 8B Greek LLM and a new QA dataset via LRM distillation, but the SOTA claim needs explicit data quality metrics to hold up. read the letter →

arxiv 2605.01870 v1 submitted 2026-05-03 cs.CL

Nikolaos Giarelis , Charalampos Mastrokostas , Nikos Karacapilidis This is my paper · ORCID
classification cs.CL
keywords GreekLLMknowledgedistillationlargereasoningmodelsCulturaQAquestionansweringmultilingualNLPopen-weightsmodel
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The reading

The paper demonstrates that a compact 8-billion-parameter model for Modern Greek can be built by distilling reasoning capabilities from much larger models and then fine-tuning on a purpose-built dataset. The authors introduce CulturaQA, a set of Greek question-answer pairs first generated by large reasoning models and then refined by human curators. Using this data, they produce Maistros 8B and show it leads in accuracy across multiple Greek question-answering tests while also releasing a lightweight evaluation framework. Readers should care because the approach offers a practical route to capable models for languages that lack large native datasets, without requiring the compute budget of training from scratch.

What carries the argument

Knowledge distillation from large reasoning models into an 8B base model, using the CulturaQA dataset of LRM-generated and human-curated Greek question-answer pairs for fine-tuning.

What would settle it

If Maistros 8B scores below other open-weights Greek or multilingual models on the nine held-out Greek QA datasets, or if an ablated version trained only on the uncured LRM-generated portion matches its results, the central claim would be refuted.

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Core claim

Maistros 8B is a state-of-the-art open-weights Greek LLM obtained by knowledge distillation from large reasoning models followed by fine-tuning on CulturaQA, a high-quality LRM-generated and human-curated Greek QA dataset. Evaluation across nine human-curated Greek QA datasets shows Maistros 8B surpassing nine other LLMs, including both general and Greek-specific models.

Load-bearing premise

The CulturaQA dataset, created by large reasoning models and then curated by humans, supplies data of sufficient quality and cultural representativeness for distillation to yield better Greek QA performance than existing models.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Maistros 8B sets a new reference performance level for open Greek LLMs on question answering.
  • CulturaQA provides a reusable training and evaluation resource for future Greek language models.
  • The memory-efficient evaluation framework can be reused for other languages and QA tasks.
  • Targeted distillation allows smaller models to acquire reasoning strengths for specific languages without full-scale pretraining.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same dataset-generation and distillation pipeline could be applied to other low-resource languages by swapping the target language in the LRM prompts.
  • Prioritizing human curation after LRM generation may prove more effective than simply scaling data volume for multilingual adaptation.
  • Future experiments could test whether adding chain-of-thought supervision during distillation further boosts performance on multi-step Greek reasoning tasks.
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Referee Report

2 major / 1 minor

Summary. The paper introduces CulturaQA, a new high-quality Greek QA dataset generated using large reasoning models (LRMs) and refined through human curation; a memory-efficient framework for LLM evaluation on QA tasks; and Maistros 8B, an 8B-parameter open-weights Greek LLM obtained via knowledge distillation from LRMs followed by fine-tuning on CulturaQA. It claims Maistros 8B achieves state-of-the-art results on Greek QA and reports a broad evaluation of nine LLMs across nine human-curated Greek QA datasets.

Significance. If the performance claims and dataset quality are substantiated with quantitative evidence, the work would provide a useful open-weights model and training resource for Modern Greek, helping close the gap for under-resourced languages. The distillation pipeline and evaluation framework could serve as a template for similar adaptations in other languages. The significance is currently limited by the absence of supporting metrics.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: the central claim that Maistros 8B is state-of-the-art is stated without any quantitative metrics, baseline comparisons, or error analysis, which is load-bearing for the primary contribution and cannot be assessed from the given description.
  2. [Abstract] Contributions (i): CulturaQA is described as high-quality LRM-generated and human-curated data sufficient to enable superior distillation performance, yet no validation statistics (e.g., inter-annotator agreement, LRM hallucination rates before/after curation, lexical diversity, or comparison to existing Greek QA corpora) are referenced, leaving open the possibility that any gains are attributable to unverified data quality rather than the method.
minor comments (1)
  1. [Abstract] The abstract lists evaluation of nine LLMs on nine datasets but does not name them; adding this information would improve clarity even if details appear later.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their constructive and detailed feedback. We address each major comment below and describe the revisions we will implement to improve the clarity and substantiation of our claims.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the central claim that Maistros 8B is state-of-the-art is stated without any quantitative metrics, baseline comparisons, or error analysis, which is load-bearing for the primary contribution and cannot be assessed from the given description.

    Authors: We agree that the abstract, in its current concise form, does not include specific quantitative metrics or direct references to baseline comparisons and error analysis. The full manuscript contains these details in the evaluation section, reporting results across nine Greek QA datasets with comparisons to nine other LLMs. We will revise the abstract to incorporate key performance figures (e.g., accuracy improvements on CulturaQA and other benchmarks) and a brief mention of the comparative evaluation to make the state-of-the-art claim immediately verifiable from the abstract alone. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Abstract] Contributions (i): CulturaQA is described as high-quality LRM-generated and human-curated data sufficient to enable superior distillation performance, yet no validation statistics (e.g., inter-annotator agreement, LRM hallucination rates before/after curation, lexical diversity, or comparison to existing Greek QA corpora) are referenced, leaving open the possibility that any gains are attributable to unverified data quality rather than the method.

    Authors: The abstract summarizes the contribution at a high level. The full paper provides the requested validation statistics in the CulturaQA construction section, including inter-annotator agreement, pre/post-curation hallucination rates from the LRMs, lexical diversity metrics, and direct comparisons against prior Greek QA corpora. To address the concern directly in the abstract, we will add a brief clause referencing these supporting statistics so that the data-quality claims are substantiated without requiring the reader to consult the body text. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: standard empirical pipeline with no self-referential derivations

full rationale

The paper describes a conventional empirical workflow: LRM-generated and human-curated CulturaQA dataset creation, followed by knowledge distillation and fine-tuning to produce Maistros 8B, then evaluation of nine LLMs on nine Greek QA datasets. No equations, parameters, or derivations appear in the abstract or described contributions that reduce performance claims to fitted inputs, self-definitions, or self-citation chains. No uniqueness theorems, ansatzes, or renamings of known results are invoked. The central claim rests on dataset construction and benchmarking rather than any load-bearing loop back to the paper's own inputs by construction. Absence of quantitative data-quality metrics is a potential evidence gap but does not constitute circularity under the defined patterns.

Assumptions & free parameters 0 free parameters · 1 assumptions · 1 invented entities

The central claim rests on the effectiveness of knowledge distillation for Greek and the quality of the newly created CulturaQA dataset; no explicit free parameters or invented physical entities are stated in the abstract.

assumptions (1)
  • domain assumption Knowledge distillation from large reasoning models transfers useful reasoning capabilities to smaller models for a low-resource language.
    Invoked implicitly when claiming Maistros reaches SOTA via distillation on CulturaQA.
invented entities (1)
  • CulturaQA dataset
    purpose: High-quality training and evaluation resource for Greek QA
    Newly generated and curated in this work; no independent evidence outside the paper is provided.

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  title        = {Pith review of: Maistros: A Greek Large Language Model Adapted Through Knowledge Distillation From Large Reasoning Models},
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Large Language Models (LLMs) have substantially advanced the field of Natural Language Processing (NLP), achieving state-of-the-art performance across a wide range of tasks. These improvements have been attributed, in part, to their emerging reasoning capabilities, which are enabled by large-scale training and increased model capacity. However, existing LLMs can generate erroneous responses when addressing complex queries that fall outside their training distribution, due to limited internal knowledge or the need for multi-step reasoning. To address these limitations, recent work has introduced large reasoning models (LRMs), which incorporate explicit internal reasoning processes to improve response accuracy. Additionally, state-of-the-art LRMs often comprise hundreds of billions of parameters and require several seconds per inference, even on advanced multi-GPU systems. These characteristics limit their practicality for deployment in conventional computing environments. Meanwhile, NLP research on multilingual LLMs continues to prioritize high-resource languages. However, these models exhibit limited performance in under-resourced languages, primarily due to insufficient language- and culture-specific training data. In this paper, we focus on Modern Greek, for which only a limited number of question answering (QA) datasets have been proposed, most of which are intended for model evaluation. To address this research gap in Greek QA, we make the following contributions: (i) CulturaQA, a high-quality LRM-generated and human-curated dataset, for Greek LLM training and evaluation; (ii) a memory-efficient LLM evaluation framework adaptable to diverse languages and QA tasks; (iii) Maistros 8B, a state-of-the-art open-weights Greek LLM developed via knowledge distillation and fine-tuning on CulturaQA; and (iv) a comprehensive evaluation of nine LLMs across nine human-curated Greek QA datasets.

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Figure 1
Figure 1. CulturaQA’s sample distribution per category. The y-axis measures the number of samples; the percentage of samples is written in each bar. To create CulturaQA, we manually curated a list of 180 Greek keyphrases (for the exact phrases, see the code repository) that were grouped into eleven categories. These categories are “πολιτισμός” (“civilization”), “ταξίδια” (“travelling”), "πολιτική" (“politics”), “οικονομία” (“… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. The overall approach for training Maistros 8B. generating it again. We experimented with various training hyperparameters (see view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Training and Evaluation loss over steps are trained on step 375 (epoch 3) where the lowest validation and training losses are achieved. This is visualized in view at source ↗

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