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Berry-phase-based Topological Charge in Quasicrystals and their Observable Features in Photonic System

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Pith's one-line read Quasicrystals support Berry-phase topological charges of C=4 that periodic crystals forbid, with observable fourfold winding of electromagnetic fields in photonic realizations.

desk verdict The paper classifies Berry-phase charges in quasicrystals via group theory and shows a C=4 example, but the direct transfer of periodic-crystal tools needs explicit justification. read the letter →

arxiv 2606.11777 v1 pith:GXNPZHQD submitted 2026-06-10 cond-mat.mes-hall

Ziyi Chen , Jinyu Zou , Jinhua Gao , Gang xu This is my paper
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keywords topologicalchargeBerryphasequasicrystalsphotonicsystemsgrouprepresentationtheoryeffectiveHamiltonianC8vsymmetryband
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The paper derives all allowed Berry-phase topological charges for two-dimensional quasicrystals by applying group representation theory to their symmetries and constructing the corresponding low-energy effective Hamiltonians. This produces a universal framework that includes charges inaccessible in periodic systems, such as C=4 in the C8v quasicrystal. In photonic quasicrystals the framework predicts that photon momentum circling the charge center produces a C-fold winding of the electromagnetic field pattern, which serves as a direct experimental signature. The work thereby extends topological band theory from periodic to quasiperiodic matter.

What carries the argument

Group representation theory applied to quasiperiodic point-group symmetries, which determines the allowed values of the Berry-phase topological charge C and the form of the associated low-energy effective Hamiltonians.

What would settle it

If experiments on a photonic C8v quasicrystal show that the electromagnetic field distribution does not wind four times when photon momentum is circled around the predicted charge location, the existence of the C=4 charge would be ruled out.

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Core claim

By deriving all the allowed topological charges according to group representation theory and the corresponding low-energy effective Hamiltonians, we establish a universal framework for Berry-phase-based topological charges in two-dimensional quasicrystals. Taking the C8v quasicrystal as an example, we demonstrate and characterize a higher topological charge of C=4, which is inaccessible in conventional periodic systems. Applying our framework to photonic quasicrystals, we uncover that the circling of photon momentum around the charge gives a C times winding of the electromagnetic field distribution pattern.

Load-bearing premise

The standard tools of group representation theory and low-energy effective Hamiltonians developed for periodic crystals transfer directly to quasicrystals without additional quasiperiodic-specific corrections or breakdowns in the effective description.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Topological charges higher than those permitted by periodic crystal symmetries become available once quasiperiodic order is allowed.
  • The electromagnetic-field winding pattern around a charge provides a direct, momentum-space observable for measuring the charge value in photonic systems.
  • The same representation-theory classification applies to any two-dimensional quasicrystal whose point group is known, yielding a complete list of allowed charges and Hamiltonians.
  • Periodic and quasiperiodic topological band theories are connected through the common language of Berry-phase charges and their effective models.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The framework could be used to design quasiperiodic photonic structures that realize higher-order topological responses not achievable in crystals.
  • Similar representation-theory methods may classify Berry-phase charges in three-dimensional quasicrystals or in other wave systems such as acoustics.
  • The predicted winding signature offers a route to experimental verification that could be adapted to electronic or mechanical quasicrystal platforms.
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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript claims to establish a universal framework for Berry-phase-based topological charges in two-dimensional quasicrystals by applying group representation theory to derive all allowed charges and their corresponding low-energy effective Hamiltonians. Using the C8v quasicrystal as an example, it demonstrates a higher topological charge C=4 inaccessible in periodic crystals, and shows that in photonic realizations the circling of photon momentum around the charge produces a C-fold winding of the electromagnetic field pattern, offering a direct experimental probe. The work positions this as bridging periodic and quasiperiodic topological band theories.

Significance. If the central derivation holds, the result would extend the classification of Berry-phase topological charges beyond periodic lattices, enabling charges such as C=4 that are forbidden by point-group constraints in crystals. The photonic observable provides a concrete, falsifiable signature. The explicit use of representation theory to enumerate charges and Hamiltonians is a methodological strength that could be reusable across other quasiperiodic symmetries.

major comments (2)
  1. [Framework derivation (group representation theory and low-energy Hamiltonians)] The manuscript assumes without explicit justification that the standard periodic-crystal machinery (point-group irreps, k·p expansions, and Bloch-state Berry curvature) transfers directly to quasicrystals. Because quasicrystals lack translational symmetry and a conventional Brillouin zone, the definition of the Berry phase and the topological charge C must be re-derived or shown to remain unmodified; this assumption is load-bearing for both the universality claim and the C=4 result.
  2. [C8v quasicrystal demonstration and C=4 characterization] In the C8v example, the paper must supply the explicit low-energy Hamiltonian (presumably obtained from the C8v irreps) and the subsequent calculation of the Berry phase or winding number that yields C=4. Without this step-by-step evaluation, it is impossible to verify that the charge is indeed Berry-phase based rather than an artifact of the effective-model construction.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract and introduction] Notation for the topological charge is introduced as both 'topological charge of C=4' and 'Berry-phase-based topological charges'; a single consistent symbol and definition should be used from the outset.
  2. [Photonic application section] The photonic observable is described as 'C times winding of the electromagnetic field distribution pattern'; a precise definition of the winding (e.g., phase winding of a particular field component around a closed momentum loop) would improve reproducibility.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the careful reading and constructive comments. We address the two major comments point by point below, providing the strongest honest defense based on the manuscript content while indicating revisions where appropriate.

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  1. Referee: [Framework derivation (group representation theory and low-energy Hamiltonians)] The manuscript assumes without explicit justification that the standard periodic-crystal machinery (point-group irreps, k·p expansions, and Bloch-state Berry curvature) transfers directly to quasicrystals. Because quasicrystals lack translational symmetry and a conventional Brillouin zone, the definition of the Berry phase and the topological charge C must be re-derived or shown to remain unmodified; this assumption is load-bearing for both the universality claim and the C=4 result.

    Authors: The topological charge is defined locally via the Berry phase acquired by eigenstates of the effective Hamiltonian upon transport around a small closed loop in momentum space that encloses the degeneracy point. This local construction relies only on the point-group symmetry (here C_{8v}) that governs the allowed degeneracies and the form of the k·p expansion near that point; it does not require global translational periodicity or a conventional Brillouin zone. Representation theory therefore directly constrains the allowed charges and Hamiltonians in the same way as in crystals. We will add a dedicated paragraph in the revised manuscript that explicitly states this local definition and why the standard Berry-phase integral remains unmodified. revision: partial

  2. Referee: [C8v quasicrystal demonstration and C=4 characterization] In the C8v example, the paper must supply the explicit low-energy Hamiltonian (presumably obtained from the C8v irreps) and the subsequent calculation of the Berry phase or winding number that yields C=4. Without this step-by-step evaluation, it is impossible to verify that the charge is indeed Berry-phase based rather than an artifact of the effective-model construction.

    Authors: Equation (5) gives the explicit 4-band low-energy Hamiltonian obtained from the C_{8v} irreps. The Berry phase is evaluated by integrating the Berry connection along a small circular path encircling the degeneracy; the resulting phase is 8π, corresponding to topological charge C=4. To address the request for step-by-step verification we will expand the relevant section to include the explicit matrix form of the Hamiltonian, the basis functions from the irreps, and the analytic or numerical evaluation of the winding number. revision: yes

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No circularity: derivation applies external group theory without self-referential reduction.

full rationale

The paper's central step is deriving allowed topological charges and effective Hamiltonians from group representation theory for C8v quasicrystals, then characterizing C=4 and its photonic observable. No equations or text reduce a claimed prediction to a fitted input by construction, no self-citation is invoked as a uniqueness theorem or load-bearing premise, and no ansatz is smuggled via prior author work. The framework is presented as a direct transfer of standard representation theory and k·p methods, which are external to the paper; any question of whether those methods require quasiperiodic corrections is a correctness issue, not a circularity reduction.

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  • domain assumption Group representation theory applies directly to quasicrystals to enumerate allowed topological charges
    Invoked to derive all allowed charges and low-energy Hamiltonians

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abstract

Topological charges based on Berry phase play the fundamental role in the topological physics. However, such topological charges remain unexplored in quasicrystals, impeding the systematic understanding of topological states in such quasiperiodic systems. In this work, by deriving all the allowed topological charges according to group representation theory and the corresponding low-energy effective Hamiltonians, we establish a universal framework for Berry-phase-based topological charges in two-dimensional quasicrystals. Taking the $C_{8v}$ quasicrystal as an example, we demonstrate and characterize a higher topological charge of $C=4$, which is inaccessible in conventional periodic systems. Applying our framework to photonic quasicrystals, we uncover that the circling of photon momentum around the charge gives a $C$ times winding of the electromagnetic field distribution pattern. Such observable feature provides a direct experimental method to probe the topological charges. Our work paves the way for exploring topological charges in quasiperiodic matter, and fundamentally bridges periodic and quasiperiodic topological band theories.

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Figure 1. FIG. 1. (a) Moir´e quasicrystalline potential. (b) Corresponding distribution of reciprocal-lattice points. (c) Band structure [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. FIG. 2. (a) Photonic band structure of the quasicrystal along [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. FIG. 3. Observation of the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_3.png] view at source ↗

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