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arxiv: 1906.08930 · v1 · pith:CEKONS7Mnew · submitted 2019-06-21 · ✦ hep-ex · hep-ph

BESIII Exotics

G. Mezzadri (on behalf of the BESIII collaboration) This is my paper

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keywords XYZ statesY(4660)baryoniumcharmonium exoticsRossi-Veneziano modelinitial state radiationBESIII energy scan
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BESIII will scan beam energies up to 4.7 GeV to directly measure the Y(4660) resonance and test its baryonium interpretation.

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The paper reviews the family of XYZ exotic states observed above open-heavy meson thresholds in the charmonium sector. BESIII accesses vector states directly through energy scans at the BEPCII collider. Data on the Y(4660) currently come only from initial-state radiation at Belle and BaBar, where the relative branching ratio into pi pi psi(2S) versus Lambda_c anti-Lambda_c final states suggests a baryonium structure as expected in the Rossi-Veneziano model. The planned collider upgrade to 4.7 GeV will enable direct cross-section measurements around the resonance peak to check this prediction.

Core claim

The relative branching ratio of the Y(4660) points toward a baryonium interpretation as expected in the Rossi-Veneziano model; BESIII can directly measure the cross sections around the expected peak position and verify this prediction.

What carries the argument

The Y(4660) resonance and its relative branching ratios into pi pi psi(2S) and Lambda_c anti-Lambda_c, interpreted through the Rossi-Veneziano baryonium model.

If this is right

  • Direct production of vector XYZ states removes possible distortions from the initial-state radiation mechanism.
  • Verification of the predicted peak position would support the baryonium assignment for Y(4660).
  • Confirmation would strengthen the case for applying the Rossi-Veneziano model to other states above open-flavor thresholds.
  • The higher-energy data set will also enable searches for additional XYZ candidates in the same mass region.

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  • Confirmation would imply that baryonium states form a distinct class of exotics distinguishable from molecular or tetraquark interpretations by their production and decay patterns.
  • The same scan strategy could be applied to analogous resonances in the bottomonium sector once higher energies become available.
  • If the ratio holds, it would motivate dedicated lattice calculations of baryonium wave functions at these masses.

Load-bearing premise

Branching ratios reported from initial-state radiation production at Belle and BaBar accurately reflect the intrinsic decay properties of the Y(4660) itself.

What would settle it

A direct measurement of the e+e- production cross sections for Y(4660) to pi pi psi(2S) and to Lambda_c anti-Lambda_c near 4.66 GeV that yields a ratio inconsistent with the ISR values.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 1906.08930 by G. Mezzadri (on behalf of the BESIII collaboration).

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Figure 1. Figure 1: ). This structure is compatible with a X(3915) observed in Ref. [7] and in Ref. [8]. With the possibility the process e +e − → γωJ/ψ it is also possible to extract the production cross sec￾tion between 4. and 4.6 GeV and compare it with the production cross section of e +e − → γππJ/ψ. This comparison is useful to address whether a transition Y (4220) → γX(3872) exists and study the isospin breaking contrib… view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: FIG. 2: Cross section lineshape of [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: FIG. 3: Invariant mass of [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: FIG. 4: Preliminary result- Recoil mass against [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_4.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: FIG. 5: Dressed cross section lineshape for the process [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_5.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 6. Figure 6: FIG. 6: Dressed cross section of the process [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_6.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 7. Figure 7: FIG. 7: Dressed cross section measurements for the processes [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_7.png] view at source ↗
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Since few years, a new family of exotic states has been appearing above the open-heavy meson thresholds: the so-called $XYZ$ states. BESIII at the BEPCII $e^+e^-$ collider plays a unique role in the study of those particles in the charmonium sector. Changing the beam energy, BESIII can collect large data samples by means of scans of the resonant region, accessing directly to all vector states. As part of a larger upgrade program, BESIII has planned to increase the center of mass energy to reach $4.7$ GeV: this will allow BESIII to investigate the nature of the $Y(4660)$, that was at first observed by Belle and BaBar after Initial State Radiation only in $\pi\pi \psi(2s)$ and $\Lambda_c$ $\bar{\Lambda}_c$ final states. The relative branching ratio seems to point toward a baryonium interpretation of the resonance, as expected in Rossi-Veneziano model. BESIII can directly measure the cross sections around the expected peak position and verify this prediction. In this presentation, the status of the $XYZ$ searches at BESIII will be presented, with a focus also on the plans for the newest data taking and for the $Y(4660)$ studies.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript is a status report on XYZ exotic state searches at BESIII, emphasizing the experiment's unique capability for direct e+e- scans of vector resonances. It highlights planned beam-energy upgrades to 4.7 GeV to enable direct cross-section measurements of the Y(4660), previously observed only via ISR at Belle and BaBar in the pi pi psi(2S) and Lambda_c bar Lambda_c channels. The relative branching ratio is stated to favor a baryonium interpretation per the Rossi-Veneziano model, motivating the BESIII program.

Significance. If the planned direct scans are executed and yield precise lineshapes and branching fractions, the measurements could test the baryonium hypothesis for Y(4660) in a production mechanism independent of ISR. The manuscript itself, however, presents no new data, cross-section formulas, or efficiency studies, so its immediate scientific impact is limited to outlining experimental strategy.

major comments (1)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: The claim that the relative branching ratio of Y(4660) to Lambda_c bar Lambda_c versus pi pi psi(2S) 'seems to point toward a baryonium interpretation' is load-bearing for the motivation of the BESIII scan, yet the text supplies neither the numerical branching-ratio values from Belle/BaBar, nor any assessment of possible distortions arising from the ISR production mechanism (virtual-photon vertex, interference, or acceptance effects). Because direct e+e- production at BESIII proceeds through the identical vertex, this unexamined assumption directly affects the interpretability of the proposed measurements.
minor comments (3)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract, first sentence: 'Since few years' is grammatically incorrect; should read 'For several years' or 'In recent years'.
  2. [Abstract] Abstract: 'accessing directly to all vector states' should be rephrased to 'directly accessing all vector states' for clarity.
  3. [Abstract] Abstract: The phrase 'the newest data taking' is vague; specify the run periods or integrated luminosities under consideration.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the constructive comment on the abstract. We address it below and will revise the manuscript to strengthen the motivation section while preserving the status-report nature of the paper.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] The claim that the relative branching ratio of Y(4660) to Lambda_c bar Lambda_c versus pi pi psi(2S) 'seems to point toward a baryonium interpretation' is load-bearing for the motivation of the BESIII scan, yet the text supplies neither the numerical branching-ratio values from Belle/BaBar, nor any assessment of possible distortions arising from the ISR production mechanism (virtual-photon vertex, interference, or acceptance effects). Because direct e+e- production at BESIII proceeds through the identical vertex, this unexamined assumption directly affects the interpretability of the proposed measurements.

    Authors: We agree that the abstract would be improved by quoting the specific numerical branching-ratio values from the Belle and BaBar publications (which are cited in the manuscript). We will revise the abstract to include these values explicitly. On the question of ISR-specific distortions, both the ISR and direct-scan production proceed via the same virtual-photon vertex, so the relative branching fractions are expected to be comparable; however, we acknowledge that a full assessment of interference or acceptance effects lies beyond the scope of this status report. We will therefore qualify the statement to indicate that the reported rates provide motivation for the direct measurement rather than a definitive test of the baryonium hypothesis. This change will be made in the revised version. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity; paper reports external observations and experimental plans without internal derivations or fits

full rationale

The document is a conference-style summary of BESIII status and upgrade plans for XYZ states. It references Belle/BaBar ISR observations of Y(4660) and the Rossi-Veneziano model but performs no fitting, no parameter extraction, and no derivation chain of its own. The statement that the relative branching ratio 'seems to point toward a baryonium interpretation' is presented as an external observation to be verified by future direct scans, not as a result derived within the paper. No equations, self-citations that bear the central claim, or renamings of known results appear. The text is self-contained as an experimental report against external benchmarks.

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No mathematical model, derivation, or new physical postulate is developed in the abstract; the text rests on standard experimental techniques and prior published observations.

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