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A Normal form for HNN-extension of Dialgebras

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Pith's one-line read An explicit Groebner–Shirshov basis and normal form for HNN-extensions of dialgebras

desk verdict The Gröbner–Shirshov set S in this paper drops the derivation term d(a) from the HNN relation and kills all base products, so the normal form in Theorem 3.1 is for a different quotient, not for D*_d. read the letter →

arxiv 1908.08397 v2 pith:MBTLMOB3 submitted 2019-08-19 math.RA

classification math.RA MSC 17A3617A5017A9913P1016S15
keywords normalformdialgebradiassociativealgebraGroebner-ShirshovbasisHNN-extensionComposition-Diamondlemmaderivation
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This paper tries to establish an explicit Groebner–Shirshov basis for the HNN-extension of a dialgebra and, as a consequence, a normal form for every element of the quotient. The intended payoff is a linear basis for the extension and an embedding of the original dialgebra into it, the dialgebra analogue of the classical HNN embedding theorem. The argument rests on a strengthened Composition–Diamond lemma in which a set of polynomials is a Groebner–Shirshov basis exactly when its irreducible diwords form a basis. On a sympathetic reading, the normal form is established for the presentation in which the derivation term $d(a)$ is zero; the set $S$ used in the paper contains only $[xx]_1$, $[xx]_2$, $[xy]_1$, $[xy]_2$, and $[at]_1 - [ta]_2$, with no $d(a)$ term. If those checks hold, Theorem 3.1 gives the normal form exactly as stated.

What carries the argument

The load-bearing mechanism is the strengthened Composition–Diamond lemma for dialgebras (Theorem 1.6), which works with a deg-lex-center ordering on normal diwords $[u]_m$: here $u$ is an associative word and $m$ is the position of the distinguished center. Under this ordering, a monic set $S$ is a Groebner–Shirshov basis if and only if every composition is trivial modulo $S$, and this is equivalent to the irreducible diwords $\operatorname{Irr}(S)$ forming a $K$-basis of the quotient. The paper's work is to list all intersection compositions of the five families in $S$ and show each reduces to zero; the normal form in Theorem 3.1 is then the complement of the leading diwords of all normal $S$-diwords in this ordering.

What would settle it

Take a dialgebra with a basis element $a$ and a nonzero derivation $d(a)=b$, perhaps with $b$ a new basis element, and recompute the compositions involving the relation $[at]_1-[ta]_2-[b]$. If the reduction produces a leading term not appearing in the set $\operatorname{Irr}(S)$ of Theorem 3.1, for instance any normal diword containing $b$, then the claimed basis and normal form are incomplete.

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Core claim

The central claim is Theorem 3.1: the HNN-extension $D^*_d$ presented by $\langle Di, t \mid a \dashv t - t \vdash a = d(a), a \in A\rangle$ has normal form $\operatorname{Irr}(S) = \{[z_m \cdots z_1 x y_1 \cdots y_n]_{m+1} \mid z_j, x, y_i \in X,\ z_{j+1}z_j \neq xx, xy, xt;\ y_i y_{i+1} \neq xx, xy, xt;\ z_1 x \neq xx, xy, xt;\ x y_1 \neq xx, xy, xt,\ \text{for } x > y\}$, where $S = \{[xx]_1, [xx]_2, [xy]_1, [xy]_2, [at]_1 - [ta]_2\}$ and $x,y \in X$, $a \in A$. The paper verifies that every composition of these strong monic polynomials is trivial modulo $S$, so by the Composition–Diamond lemma $S$ is an explicit Groebner–Shirshov basis and $\operatorname{Irr}(S)$ is a $K$-basis of the quotient dialgebra. Corollary 3.1.1 then says the original dialgebra $Di$ embeds into $D^*_d$, because each element of $X$ is already an irreducible normal word.

Load-bearing premise

The load-bearing premise is that the derivation $d$ in the defining relation $a \dashv t - t \vdash a = d(a)$ is identically zero on $A$, because the set $S$ used in the Groebner–Shirshov basis omits the $d(a)$ term and every composition check in the paper is performed on that reduced relation.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Every element of the HNN-extension has a unique expression as a $K$-linear combination of the listed diwords, so the word problem for these quotients is solved.
  • The base dialgebra $Di$ embeds in $D^*_d$, giving the dialgebra version of the classical HNN embedding phenomenon.
  • The explicit restrictions in the normal form—no $xx$, $xy$, or $xt$ blocks in the listed positions—give a direct criterion for when a word is reducible.
  • The same Composition–Diamond-lemma route can produce normal forms for other dialgebra presentations once a candidate set $S$ is supplied.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Inference: because $S$ omits the $d(a)$ term, the normal form as stated applies to the case $d=0$; a nonzero derivation would require enlarging $S$ by the full relation $[at]_1-[ta]_2-[d(a)]$ and recomputing the composition checks.
  • Inference: the intended bridge to HNN-extensions of Leibniz algebras needs derivations that are typically nonzero, so that bridge likely needs the repaired basis rather than the present one.
  • Inference: a concrete test is to repeat the composition checks for an inner derivation $d(a)=a \dashv b - b \vdash a$; if any composition becomes nontrivial modulo the enlarged $S$, the normal form in Theorem 3.1 must gain extra summands.
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Summary. The paper claims to construct an explicit Groebner-Shirshov basis for the HNN-extension of a dialgebra and to determine a normal form for the extension, using the Composition-Diamond lemma of Zhang and Chen. The main result is Theorem 3.1, which states that Irr(S) is a normal form for D*_d, and Corollary 3.1.1, which asserts that the base dialgebra Di embeds into D*_d. The proof is based on a set S defined in Section 3 and a list of composition checks intended to show S is a Groebner-Shirshov basis.

Significance. If the main claim were correct, the paper would provide a useful explicit normal form for HNN-extensions of dialgebras and an embedding theorem, with potential consequences for Leibniz algebras through the dialgebra-Leibniz connection. The paper also advertises a recent Composition-Diamond lemma and attempts an explicit computation. However, the central construction is not supported: the set S does not encode the defining relation of the HNN-extension, and the stated normal form is for a different quotient. The paper does not provide machine-checked proofs or a parameter-free derivation; the central derivation gap is fundamental.

major comments (3)
  1. [Section 3, definition of S] The defining relation of the HNN-extension in (2.1) is a ⊣ t − t ⊢ a = d(a), i.e., [at]_1 − [ta]_2 − d(a) = 0. The set S contains only the polynomial m = [at]_1 − [ta]_2, omitting the term d(a). Unless d(a) = 0 for every a ∈ A, the polynomial m is not a consequence of the defining relation, because d(a) is a length-one polynomial and cannot be generated by the length-two polynomials listed in S. Consequently, every composition check in Section 3 is performed for the relation with d = 0, and the resulting Groebner-Shirshov basis, if valid, applies to a different quotient, not to D*_d.
  2. [Section 3, definition of S] The set S also includes [xx]_1, [xx]_2, [xy]_1, and [xy]_2 for all x, y ∈ X. These polynomials impose x ⊣ y = 0 and x ⊢ y = 0 on the base dialgebra. The presentation (2.1) imposes no such zero products; it only adds the stable-letter relations to an arbitrary dialgebra Di, whose multiplication may be nontrivial. Thus the quotient Di⟨X|S⟩ is not D*_d but a quotient in which the image of Di has trivial multiplication. This alone invalidates Theorem 3.1 as a normal form for D*_d.
  3. [Theorem 3.1] The asserted normal form Irr(S) contains no words involving t: it consists only of elements [z_m ... z_1 x y_1 ... y_n]_{m+1} with z_j, x, y_i ∈ X. An HNN-extension generated by X and t must have basis elements containing t unless the stable letter becomes trivial or is eliminated by the relations. The absence of t from Irr(S) suggests that the relations in S force t to act trivially or to be expressible through X, which is inconsistent with the intended HNN-extension and with the claimed embedding of Di into D*_d. Corollary 3.1.1 is therefore not established by the preceding argument.
minor comments (3)
  1. [Abstract] There are typographical errors: 'digebras' should be 'dialgebras', and 'Groeber-Shirshov' is misspelled.
  2. [References] Reference [3] contains a duplicated author list ('L.A. Bokut, Y. Chen, L.A. Bokut, Y.Q. Chen, C.H. Liu'), and the journal 'Israil J. Math.' in [12] should be 'Israel J. Math.'
  3. [Theorem 3.1] The condition 'for x > y' at the end of the theorem is ambiguous: it is unclear whether x > y is required for all occurrences of x and y in the word or only for the final factor, and the order relations involving z_j and y_i are not fully specified.

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No circularity: the paper's derivation is self-contained and driven by an external CD lemma; its failures are mathematical errors, not circular reductions.

full rationale

The main derivation chain is: define the HNN-extension by the presentation (2.1), propose a candidate set S, verify all compositions with respect to the CD-lemma from [13], and conclude that Irr(S) is a normal form. Each step is executed inside the paper or imported from an external lemma; no parameter is fitted to a target output and no prediction is a renamed input. The author's coauthorship of [6] and [7] is contextual: [6] supplies the construction of HNN-extensions for dialgebras and [7] supplies the Lie-superalgebra analogue, but Theorem 3.1 does not reduce to either citation. The real defects are non-circular mathematical errors: the defining relation a⊣t − t⊢a = d(a) is represented in S only by [at]1 − [ta]2, dropping d(a); and S contains [xy]1 and [xy]2 for all x,y∈X, which imposes zero products not present in the given dialgebra. Consequently S is not a Groebner-Shirshov basis of the ideal defined by (2.1), so Theorem 3.1 describes a different quotient. That is a correctness gap, not a circularity, because the false step is a mistaken identification of ideals rather than a definitional or fitted reduction of the claimed conclusion to its assumptions.

Assumptions & free parameters 0 free parameters · 4 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The main unproved input is the Composition-Diamond Lemma from [13]. The paper also assumes the HNN presentation from [6] and the ordering conditions. No free parameters or invented entities appear. The paper implicitly assumes that A consists of basis letters in the composition checks, an ad hoc assumption.

assumptions (4)
  • standard math Composition-Diamond Lemma for dialgebras (Theorem 1.6) from Zhang and Chen [13]
    The equivalence between a Groebner-Shirshov basis and the irreducibles forming a basis is imported without proof, and the paper relies on it for the main conclusion.
  • domain assumption The presentation (2.1) of HNN-extension is the correct object
    Taken from [6], the paper does not justify it, and the subsequent set S does not match it because d(a) is dropped.
  • domain assumption The deg-lex-center ordering on normal diwords is compatible with the dialgebra operations
    Section 1 assumes this ordering, and the composition triviality computations depend on its compatibility with the algebraic operations.
  • ad hoc to paper Every a in A may be treated as a single basis letter x in X
    In Section 3, compositions such as f∧m and h∧m substitute x and y for a, which is only valid if the basis elements are in A; A is a general subalgebra.

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We consider a new version of Composition-Diamond Lemma for dialgebras in order to obtain an explicit Groebner-Shirshov basis for HNN-extension of dialgebras and determine a normal form for that.

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