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Comment on the feasibility of carbon burning in Betelgeuse: a response to "The evolutionary stage of Betelgeuse inferred from its pulsation periods," arXiv:2306.00287
Solar and Stellar Astrophysics · Submitted 9 Jun 2023
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The authors' main claim However, the angular diameter measurements of the star are in conflict with the stellar radius required by their models, as we show in this note.
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The recent pre-print by Saio et al. 2023 argues that the supergiant Betelgeuse is already undergoing carbon burning, based on the assumption that all of its light variations are caused by radial pulsations. However, the angular diameter measurements of the star are in conflict with the stellar radius required by their models, as we show in this note. We discuss the feasibility that the Great Dimming was caused by constructive mode interference using long-term brightness measurements and comment on differences in modeling frameworks adopted in Saio et al. 2023 vs Joyce et al. 2020.
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| s0 | The recent pre-print by Saio et al. 2023 argues that the supergiant Betelgeuse is already undergoing carbon burning, based on the assumption that all of its light variations are caused by radial pulsations. | background 1.00 | 0.04 | 0.07 | asserted 0.96 |
| s1 | However, the angular diameter measurements of the star are in conflict with the stellar radius required by their models, as we show in this note. | result 0.89 | 0.77 | 0.66 | asserted 1.00 |
| s2 | We discuss the feasibility that the Great Dimming was caused by constructive mode interference using long-term brightness measurements and comment on differences in modeling frameworks adopted in Saio et al. 2023 vs Joyce et al. 2020. | contribution 0.96 | 0.70 | 0.16 | unclear 0.39 |
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The recent pre-print by Saio et al. 2023 argues that the supergiant Betelgeuse is already undergoing carbon burning, based on the assumption that all of its light variations are caused by radial pulsations. However, the angular diameter measurements of the star are in conflict with the stellar radius required by their models, as we show in this note. We discuss the feasibility that the Great Dimming was caused by constructive mode interference using long-term brightness measurements and comment on differences in modeling frameworks adopted in Saio et al. 2023 vs Joyce et al. 2020.
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We conclude that Betelgeuse is likely in the late stage of core carbon burning, and a good candidate for the next Galactic Type II supernova.
The evolutionary stage of Betelgeuse inferred from its pulsation periods · 0.94
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Nonetheless, it is our stance that the main source of tension between our earlier work and [ref] stems from their treating the LSP as radial pulsation and applying inadequate observational constraints to justify that assumption.
The evolutionary stage of Betelgeuse inferred from its pulsation periods · Comments on modeling · contest 0.85
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