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Comment on the feasibility of carbon burning in Betelgeuse: a response to "The evolutionary stage of Betelgeuse inferred from its pulsation periods," arXiv:2306.00287

Solar and Stellar Astrophysics · Submitted 9 Jun 2023

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The authors' main claim However, the angular diameter measurements of the star are in conflict with the stellar radius required by their models, as we show in this note.

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CitationL\'aszl\'o Moln\'ar, Meridith Joyce, Shing-Chi Leung. "Comment on the feasibility of carbon burning in Betelgeuse: a response to "The evolutionary stage of Betelgeuse inferred from its pulsation periods," arXiv:2306.00287." arXiv:2306.05600 (2023). https://pith.science/paper/5S4RLEM2
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The recent pre-print by Saio et al. 2023 argues that the supergiant Betelgeuse is already undergoing carbon burning, based on the assumption that all of its light variations are caused by radial pulsations. However, the angular diameter measurements of the star are in conflict with the stellar radius required by their models, as we show in this note. We discuss the feasibility that the Great Dimming was caused by constructive mode interference using long-term brightness measurements and comment on differences in modeling frameworks adopted in Saio et al. 2023 vs Joyce et al. 2020.

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s0 The recent pre-print by Saio et al. 2023 argues that the supergiant Betelgeuse is already undergoing carbon burning, based on the assumption that all of its light variations are caused by radial pulsations. background 1.00 0.04 0.07 asserted 0.96
s1 However, the angular diameter measurements of the star are in conflict with the stellar radius required by their models, as we show in this note. result 0.89 0.77 0.66 asserted 1.00
s2 We discuss the feasibility that the Great Dimming was caused by constructive mode interference using long-term brightness measurements and comment on differences in modeling frameworks adopted in Saio et al. 2023 vs Joyce et al. 2020. contribution 0.96 0.70 0.16 unclear 0.39

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The recent pre-print by Saio et al. 2023 argues that the supergiant Betelgeuse is already undergoing carbon burning, based on the assumption that all of its light variations are caused by radial pulsations. However, the angular diameter measurements of the star are in conflict with the stellar radius required by their models, as we show in this note. We discuss the feasibility that the Great Dimming was caused by constructive mode interference using long-term brightness measurements and comment on differences in modeling frameworks adopted in Saio et al. 2023 vs Joyce et al. 2020.

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