REVIEW 3 major objections 5 minor 57 references
Slender Object Scene Segmentation in Remote Sensing Image Based on Learnable Morphological Skeleton with Segment Anything Model
T0 review · 3 major / 5 minor · reviewed 2026-08-12 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read A learnable morphological skeleton prior embedded in SAM's decoder lifts recall by about 2 percent on slender remote-sensing objects.
desk verdict A clever variational unrolling of a smooth morphological skeleton into SAM, with consistent but modest gains whose origin in the skeleton prior is not yet convincingly established. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The load-bearing device is the smooth morphological skeleton $S^\alpha(u)$, obtained by replacing the non-differentiable max and min of dilation and erosion with log-sum-exp soft operators, together with a variational segmentation energy that appends a skeleton-matching cost $C(u)=\frac{1}{2}\int_\Omega |S^\alpha(u)(x)-S^\alpha(g)(x)|^2\,dx$ to the soft threshold dynamics model. Operator splitting and $L^1$ duality turn the minimization into three subproblems, the $u$-update of which is a sigmoid; unrolling roughly twenty iterations of that update, with a learnable skeleton token standing in for the unknown ground-truth skeleton, gives the MorSP module.
What would settle it
A reader could settle the mechanism by freezing all SAM-MorSP weights and replacing the learned skeleton token with a constant or with the skeleton of a different object class on the Massachusetts road test set: if road recall stays near the reported 74.33 while the skeleton input carries no road structure, the claimed skeleton-prior effect is not what produces the gain.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The paper's central claim is that a smooth, learnable version of the morphological skeleton can be written as a variational regularizer and unrolled into a neural module, and that inserting this module into SAM's mask decoder makes the network preserve slender and topologically complex structures in remote sensing images. The integration works by adding a skeleton token to the mask decoder and replacing SAM's final thresholding with a learnable sigmoid solve of a variational model. On the reported building, road, and water benchmarks, SAM-MorSP achieves the best F1, IoU, precision, and recall among the compared fine-tuning strategies, with about a 2 percent recall gain over SAM fine-tuned without the module, and it degrades less under added Gaussian noise.
Load-bearing premise
The gain is credited to the skeleton regularizer, but the 20-step approximate solver is never shown to converge to the variational model's minimizer, so the improvement could in principle come from the extra learned parameters rather than from the skeleton prior.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- SAM-MorSP should segment narrow and elongated objects such as road intersections, roundabouts, and slender rivers more completely than SAM fine-tuned with plain cross-entropy or skeleton loss.
- Because MorSP operates at the final decoding layer, it can be attached to other segmentation backbones; the paper demonstrates this with BEDSN and reports improved F1 and IoU on building and road datasets.
- The model should degrade more gracefully under Gaussian noise than loss-only skeleton supervision, since the soft threshold dynamics regularization and smooth morphological operators act during inference as well as training.
- Fine-tuning only about 4 percent of SAM ViT-B's parameters, through LoRA and MorSP, is enough to exceed full-decoder fine-tuning on the tested remote sensing benchmarks.
Reading between the lines
- A direct test the paper does not report is ablating the skeleton token: if feeding a constant or random token preserves the reported recall gains, then the skeleton prior itself is not carrying the improvement.
- The same module could transfer to non-remote-sensing line-structure tasks such as retinal vessel or power-line segmentation, where connectivity matters more than boundary accuracy; the paper only evaluates buildings, roads, and water.
- Because the skeleton is learned from a token inside the decoder, it could in principle be conditioned on the prompt (point or box) to emphasize different topological structures, an extension the paper does not explore.
- The paper offers no convergence analysis for its one-step approximate subproblem updates, so a controlled experiment separating the skeleton branch from the extra learned parameters would clarify whether the gains come from the variational prior or simply from more capacity.
Signed reviews
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper proposes SAM-MorSP, an extension of the Segment Anything Model that integrates a learnable morphological skeleton prior into the segmentation decoder. The authors derive a smooth approximation of morphological dilation/erosion and of the morphological skeleton, use it to build the variational segmentation model in Eq. (10) with an entropy term, a threshold-dynamics regularization, and a skeleton cost, and then unroll an alternating optimization scheme into a trainable MorSP module with a soft skeleton token. The module replaces SAM's final Heaviside decoding step. Experiments on building, road, and water datasets compare SAM-MorSP with SAM-fine and SAM-cl, reporting improved F1 and recall in most settings, including under Gaussian noise, and an additional experiment integrates MorSP into the BEDSN backbone.
Significance. If the claims hold, the paper offers a principled way to inject a topological/skeleton prior into a foundation model through a variational energy rather than only through a loss function. The derivations in Propositions 1-2 provide a clean log-sum-exp representation of morphological operators, and the proposed module is architecture-agnostic, as demonstrated by the BEDSN experiment. The noise-robustness study is a useful addition, and the comparison with a cl-dice-loss baseline helps separate the effect of the variational module from the skeleton loss. However, the interpretability claim depends on two points that are not established: the smoothness of the derived skeleton variation, and the claim that the truncated, approximate unrolled iterations actually solve the variational model. The empirical evidence also lacks error bars and has precision drops on several datasets, so the significance is conditional on these points being resolved.
major comments (3)
- [Section III-A, Proposition 3] Proposition 3 expresses the variation of S^α(u) using the Heaviside step function H, and S^α itself is defined through ReLU projections. Consequently, S^α is not smooth in u, and the displayed formula is not the derivative of a smooth function; this contradicts the paper's assertion that the proposed skeletal representation is smooth and therefore suitable for gradient backpropagation. Since δC/δu in Eq. (9) and the w-update in Algorithm 1 depend on this formula, the authors should either reinterpret the expression as a subgradient/formal derivative, or replace the ReLU and Heaviside functions with genuinely smooth approximations and re-derive the variation.
- [Section III-B and Algorithm 1] The paper states that the q and w subproblems are solved 'approximately' with one iteration each and that T = 20 layers are taken 'to save computational sources,' but it provides no convergence, monotonicity, or fixed-point analysis for the alternating scheme, and no numerical comparison with a converged solution of Eq. (10). As written, the MorSP forward pass may be far from the minimizer of the variational model, so the reported gains cannot be confidently attributed to the skeleton prior rather than to added trainable capacity in the soft skeleton token, the learnable hyperparameters, or the cl-dice loss. I ask for either a convergence/consistency analysis of Algorithm 1 or a numerical study reporting objective values and segmentation outputs for larger T and for a converged solution.
- [Section V-C and Tables III-VII] The headline claim of 'superior performance across all datasets, with an approximate 2% improvement in recall compared to SAM-fine' is not uniformly supported by the tables: on clean test sets, F1 gains over SAM-fine range from +0.79 to +1.45, recall changes range from +0.17 to +5.75, and precision drops on LAIS building (83.39 to 80.10), Massachusetts road (79.27 to 77.60), and WHU-OPT-SAR water (79.22 to 72.03). No error bars or statistical significance tests are reported, and Table V does not state whether the λl selection is made on the validation or test split; if the test set is used for hyperparameter selection, the reported numbers are optimistic. Please provide multi-run statistics and clarify or avoid test-set selection.
minor comments (5)
- [Table III footnote] The footnote says the three models have the same number of learnable parameters, but SAM-MorSP adds a soft skeleton token and learnable hyperparameters (γ, λ, α, η, ι) in addition to the modified decoder; please report the exact learnable-parameter count for each baseline.
- [Section II-A] There are several typos and grammatical errors, e.g., 'divid' should be 'divide', 'searve' should be 'serve', 'konwledge' should be 'knowledge', 'segementing' should be 'segmenting', and 'an 32GB' should be 'a 32GB'; a careful proofreading pass is needed.
- [Section V-D] The loss-weight experiment in Table V is reported on the Massachusetts road dataset, but the text does not state whether these numbers are on the validation set or the test set; this should be clarified to assess whether the hyperparameter was selected legitimately.
- [Section V-E] The computational-cost table reports 'Gflops' and inference time, but the hardware and measurement details are minimal; please state the GPU model, batch size, and whether inference time is measured on a single 1024×1024 image.
- [Section VI] The BEDSN experiment is described briefly without training details or error bars; adding the same experimental protocol as the SAM experiments would make the generalization claim more convincing.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: the morphological skeleton is an imposed regularizer, the unrolled module is trained and tested against external baselines, and the cited STD derivation is independent support.
full rationale
The paper's derivation chain is self-contained rather than circular. The smooth dilation/erosion operators and the skeleton fidelity term C(u) in Eq. (9) are constructed from explicit mathematical propositions (Propositions 1-3) before being inserted as a regularizer into the variational model (10); the skeleton prior is an input constraint, not a quantity derived from the network output. The unrolled MorSP forward pass solves an explicit min-max problem (Algorithm 1 and Eq. (11)), and the soft skeleton token v is learned from training data under cl-dice supervision and then used at inference; no reported quantity reduces to a fitted constant or to the ground-truth skeleton by construction. The empirical comparison is against SAM-fine and SAM-cl on external benchmarks, with the cl-dice loss baseline controlling for the loss component. The cited STD model [27] is a published, parameter-free variational construction, and the paper reproduces the sigmoid u-update rather than assuming the paper's own target result; the overlap of author Jun Liu with [27] is therefore not load-bearing circularity. Section IV's oracle experiment using ground-truth skeleton Sα(g) is explicitly labeled as such and is not presented as the final prediction result. The T=20 truncation and approximate one-step q/w updates are a convergence and computational-accuracy concern, not a circularity, and the paper openly labels them as approximations. No uniqueness theorem or ansatz is smuggled via self-citation, and no known result is merely renamed. Under the quoted-evidence standard, no circular step is established.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (8)
- gamma (entropy weight) =
learnable, init 1
- lambda (TD regularization weight) =
learnable, init 1
- alpha (smooth morphological temperature) =
learnable, init 0.05
- eta (L1 penalty weight) =
learnable, init 1
- iota (w-subproblem step size) =
learnable, init 0.01
- lambda_l (loss weight for cl-dice) =
0.1
- soft skeleton token v =
learned vector
- structuring element size k =
5
assumptions (6)
- domain assumption The smooth dilation D_alpha via log-sum-exp converges to the morphological max operator as alpha approaches 0 for continuous images (Prop. 1).
- domain assumption The threshold dynamics energy R(u)=lambda⟨u, f*(1-u)⟩ approximates boundary length (Eq. 2), taken from Liu et al. [27].
- ad hoc to paper The variational model (10) with entropy, TD, and skeleton prior is a suitable segmentation objective.
- ad hoc to paper The unrolled MorSP module with T=20 iterations and one approximate gradient step per subproblem approximately solves the variational model (10).
- domain assumption The learned soft skeleton token v at test time approximates the ground-truth skeleton well enough to serve as a useful prior.
- domain assumption Labels in LAIS and Massachusetts datasets, despite known offsets and errors, are reliable enough to evaluate the claimed improvements.
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Morphological methods play a crucial role in remote sensing image processing, due to their ability to capture and preserve small structural details. However, most of the existing deep learning models for semantic segmentation are based on the encoder-decoder architecture including U-net and Segment Anything Model (SAM), where the downsampling process tends to discard fine details. In this paper, we propose a new approach that integrates learnable morphological skeleton prior into deep neural networks using the variational method. To address the difficulty in backpropagation in neural networks caused by the non-differentiability presented in classical morphological operations, we provide a smooth representation of the morphological skeleton and design a variational segmentation model integrating morphological skeleton prior by employing operator splitting and dual methods. Then, we integrate this model into the network architecture of SAM, which is achieved by adding a token to mask decoder and modifying the final sigmoid layer, ensuring the final segmentation results preserve the skeleton structure as much as possible. Experimental results on remote sensing datasets, including buildings, roads and water, demonstrate that our method outperforms the original SAM on slender object segmentation and exhibits better generalization capability.
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