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arxiv: 2501.03204 · v2 · submitted 2025-01-06 · ❄️ cond-mat.mes-hall

Extrinsic Mechanisms of Phonon Magnetic Moment

Rui Xue , Zhenhua Qiao , Yang Gao , Qian Niu This is my paper

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keywords phonon magnetic momentextrinsic mechanismsskew-scatteringside-jumpphonon Berry curvaturehoneycomb latticephonon chiralitynon-adiabaticity
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Non-adiabatic relaxation produces extrinsic skew-scattering and side-jump contributions to phonon magnetic moments comparable to intrinsic ones.

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The paper develops a general formalism of phonon magnetic moment by including the relaxation process. It identifies skew-scattering and side-jump contributions originating from non-adiabaticity, both related to the nonlocal phonon Berry curvature in close analogy to the electronic Hall effect. All contributions are exemplified in a honeycomb lattice. This shows that the extrinsic contribution can be as important as the intrinsic one, with the resulting phonon angular momentum varying significantly across the Brillouin zone. The work offers a systematic framework for phonon chirality and a way to tune the phonon magnetic moment through non-adiabaticity.

Core claim

Incorporating the relaxation process reveals that non-adiabaticity gives rise to skew-scattering and side-jump contributions to the phonon magnetic moment, both connected to the nonlocal phonon Berry curvature in analogy with electronic mechanisms. When applied to a honeycomb lattice, these extrinsic terms match the importance of the intrinsic contribution, and the phonon angular momentum changes substantially throughout the Brillouin zone.

What carries the argument

The nonlocal phonon Berry curvature that generates skew-scattering and side-jump terms in the phonon magnetic moment due to non-adiabatic relaxation processes.

If this is right

  • The extrinsic contributions can be as important as the intrinsic one.
  • The phonon angular momentum varies significantly across the Brillouin zone.
  • The phonon magnetic moment can be tuned through non-adiabaticity.
  • A systematic framework for phonon chirality is provided.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Analogous extrinsic mechanisms could appear in other bosonic excitations such as magnons.
  • Zone-dependent phonon angular momentum may influence phonon-mediated thermal transport beyond average approximations.
  • Experimental probes of phonon chirality might need to account for Brillouin zone variations rather than focusing only on high-symmetry points.

Load-bearing premise

The relaxation process incorporates non-adiabaticity to produce skew-scattering and side-jump terms tied directly to nonlocal phonon Berry curvature in the same way as electronic mechanisms.

What would settle it

A calculation or measurement in the honeycomb lattice model where the extrinsic contributions to phonon magnetic moment are much smaller than the intrinsic ones or where the phonon angular momentum shows little variation across the Brillouin zone.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2501.03204 by Qian Niu, Rui Xue, Yang Gao, Zhenhua Qiao.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: FIG. 1: Extrinsic contributions to the phonon magnetic mo [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: FIG. 2: Adiabatic and non-adiabatic contributions to the phonon magnetic moment.(a) The isoenergy surface of electronic [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_2.png] view at source ↗
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We develop a general formalism of phonon magnetic moment by including the relaxation process. We then identify the skew-scattering and side-jump contributions to the phonon magnetic moment originating from the non-adiabaticity, both of which are related to the nonlocal phonon Berry curvature and are in close analogy to those in the electronic Hall effect. All contributions of the phonon magnetic moment are exemplified in a honeycomb lattice, showing that the extrinsic contribution can be as important as the intrinsic one and that the resulting phonon angular momentum varies significantly across the Brillouin zone. Our work offers a systematic framework of the phonon chirality and paves the way of tuning the phonon magnetic moment through the non-adiabaticity.

Editorial analysis

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Desk editor's note, referee report, simulated authors' rebuttal, and a circularity audit. Tearing a paper down is the easy half of reading it; the pith above is the substance, this is the friction.

Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper develops a general formalism for the phonon magnetic moment that incorporates relaxation processes in the dynamical equation. It identifies skew-scattering and side-jump extrinsic contributions arising from non-adiabaticity, both tied to the nonlocal phonon Berry curvature in direct analogy to the electronic Hall effect. These contributions, together with the intrinsic term, are exemplified on a honeycomb lattice, where the extrinsic pieces are reported to reach magnitudes comparable to the intrinsic one and the resulting phonon angular momentum is shown to vary substantially across the Brillouin zone. The work claims to provide a systematic framework for phonon chirality and a route to tuning the magnetic moment via non-adiabaticity.

Significance. If the central derivations connecting relaxation to the Berry-curvature-dependent extrinsic terms are valid, the manuscript supplies a useful extension of topological concepts from electrons to phonons and offers a concrete lattice example in which extrinsic and intrinsic contributions are comparable. This could inform future studies of phonon transport, angular momentum, and chirality in mesoscopic systems.

major comments (2)
  1. [Section deriving extrinsic contributions from relaxation (following the general formalism)] The derivation that inserts the relaxation term into the phonon equation of motion and extracts skew-scattering and side-jump pieces proportional to the nonlocal phonon Berry curvature is the load-bearing step for the claim that extrinsic contributions can equal the intrinsic magnitude. The explicit steps from the bosonic dynamical matrix plus relaxation operator to the final expressions for these terms are not independently re-derivable without additional assumptions about the form of the scattering operator; any difference from the fermionic case (e.g., commutation relations or mode-dependent damping) would alter the magnitude comparison reported for the honeycomb lattice.
  2. [Honeycomb lattice example section] In the honeycomb-lattice example, the statement that the extrinsic contribution 'can be as important as the intrinsic one' and that angular momentum 'varies significantly across the Brillouin zone' rests on the preceding derivation. Without an explicit check that the phonon scattering operator produces the same Berry-curvature factors as in the electronic case, the numerical or analytic comparison across the zone cannot be taken as evidence that the extrinsic terms are generically comparable.
minor comments (2)
  1. Notation for the nonlocal Berry curvature and the relaxation-induced terms should be introduced with explicit definitions immediately after the general formalism to avoid ambiguity when the analogy to the electronic case is invoked.
  2. The abstract states that all contributions 'are exemplified' in the honeycomb lattice; the main text should include a brief table or plot caption that lists the relative sizes of intrinsic, skew, and side-jump terms at representative k-points to make the variation claim quantitative.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the careful reading and constructive comments on our manuscript. The points raised highlight the need for greater transparency in the derivation and example. We address each major comment below and agree that targeted revisions will strengthen the presentation without altering the core results.

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  1. Referee: [Section deriving extrinsic contributions from relaxation (following the general formalism)] The derivation that inserts the relaxation term into the phonon equation of motion and extracts skew-scattering and side-jump pieces proportional to the nonlocal phonon Berry curvature is the load-bearing step for the claim that extrinsic contributions can equal the intrinsic magnitude. The explicit steps from the bosonic dynamical matrix plus relaxation operator to the final expressions for these terms are not independently re-derivable without additional assumptions about the form of the scattering operator; any difference from the fermionic case (e.g., commutation relations or mode-dependent damping) would alter the magnitude comparison reported for the honeycomb lattice.

    Authors: We appreciate the referee's emphasis on the derivation's clarity. Our approach starts from the bosonic dynamical matrix and incorporates a relaxation operator in the equation of motion using a phenomenological relaxation-time approximation adapted for phonons. The skew-scattering and side-jump terms are extracted by perturbative expansion to linear order in the relaxation rate, with the nonlocal Berry curvature entering through the geometric phase factors in the mode eigenvectors. Bosonic commutation relations are already incorporated in the definition of the phonon Berry curvature (as detailed in the general formalism section), and we employ a mode-independent damping rate for the leading-order analysis. To enable independent verification, we will add a dedicated appendix that spells out each algebraic step, explicitly stating the form of the scattering operator and noting where bosonic statistics affect (or do not affect) the final expressions relative to the fermionic analog. revision: partial

  2. Referee: [Honeycomb lattice example section] In the honeycomb-lattice example, the statement that the extrinsic contribution 'can be as important as the intrinsic one' and that angular momentum 'varies significantly across the Brillouin zone' rests on the preceding derivation. Without an explicit check that the phonon scattering operator produces the same Berry-curvature factors as in the electronic case, the numerical or analytic comparison across the zone cannot be taken as evidence that the extrinsic terms are generically comparable.

    Authors: In the honeycomb-lattice calculations we evaluate the phonon Berry curvature directly from the dynamical matrix eigenvectors and insert it into the general expressions derived earlier. With a constant relaxation rate, the extrinsic contributions retain the same geometric weighting by the nonlocal Berry curvature as in the electronic case because the non-adiabatic coupling arises from the same first-order perturbation structure. The reported numerical comparison therefore follows from this explicit evaluation rather than an unverified analogy. Nevertheless, we agree that an additional explicit check would be helpful. In revision we will insert a short paragraph (and, if space permits, a supplementary panel) that recomputes the Berry-curvature factors for the specific scattering operator used in the lattice model, confirming that they match the general expressions. revision: partial

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; derivation extends Berry curvature formalism independently

full rationale

The paper develops a general formalism for phonon magnetic moment by incorporating relaxation, then identifies skew-scattering and side-jump terms tied to nonlocal phonon Berry curvature via explicit analogy to the electronic Hall effect. No quoted equations or steps reduce any central prediction to a fitted input, self-definition, or load-bearing self-citation chain. The analogy is presented as an extension of standard concepts rather than a renaming or imported uniqueness theorem from the authors' prior work. The derivation remains self-contained against external electronic benchmarks and does not exhibit any of the enumerated circular patterns.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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Abstract-only; limited visibility into parameters or axioms. Relies on standard domain concepts such as phonon Berry curvature and relaxation times without introducing new fitted entities.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Nonlocal phonon Berry curvature exists and generates extrinsic contributions via non-adiabaticity
    Central to linking skew-scattering and side-jump terms to the magnetic moment.

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