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Are LLMs reliable? An exploration of the reliability of large language models in clinical note generation

T0 review · 3 major / 5 minor · reviewed 2026-08-07 · deepseek-v4-flash

Pith's one-line read This paper claims that all 12 tested LLMs are semantically stable in clinical note generation, that open-weight Llama 3.1 70B and Mistral Small are the most reliable models, and that these can be locally deployed while preserving patient…

desk verdict Useful benchmark of 12 LLMs for clinical note generation, but the 'most reliable' ranking is not supported by the numbers as reported. read the letter →

arxiv 2505.17095 v1 pith:GQW7BTG2 submitted 2025-05-21 cs.CL

classification cs.CL
keywords clinicalnotegenerationlargelanguagemodelreliabilityintra-promptstabilitysemanticconsistencyBERTScoreopen-weightLLMsaci-benchhealthcaredataprivacy
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The pith

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The reading

The paper asks whether large language models can be trusted to write clinical notes from doctor-patient conversation transcripts. Twelve models from Anthropic, Meta, Mistral, and OpenAI were each run ten times on the same 112-transcript prompt, and the repeated outputs were scored for string identity, semantic consistency, and similarity to expert-written notes. The headline finding is that all models are semantically stable, with median semantic consistency above 96% for every model, so the same clinical meaning recurs even when wording differs. Meta's Llama 3.1 70B is rated the most reliable overall, followed by Mistral's Small model, and both open-weight models outperform the proprietary ones. The paper concludes that these smaller open-weight models can be deployed locally for clinical note generation, which keeps protected health information out of third-party APIs.

What carries the argument

The load-bearing mechanism is a three-metric reliability protocol using ten repeated generations from the same prompt. Consistency rate (CR) counts how often two generated notes are string-identical, semantic consistency (SC) measures the average cosine similarity, via BERTScore, between all pairs of generated notes, and semantic similarity (SS) measures BERTScore between a generated note and the expert ground-truth note. BERTScore, which prior clinical note work found suitable for this task, is the device that turns 'same meaning' and 'correctness' into numbers, and the deterministic model settings (temperature 0, top_p 0, top_k 1 where available) are what make the repeated runs comparable as a test of stability rather than sampling noise.

What would settle it

Re-score a random sample of generated notes on the aci-bench subset using a clinical-domain embedding model and have two or more clinicians independently mark critical errors; if the clinician rankings of model quality differ from the BERTScore ranking, or if notes with BERTScore above 80 contain critical omissions like a missed medication, then the claim that semantic consistency and semantic similarity certify reliability for clinical note generation would be refuted.

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Extended reading notes

Core claim

On the paper's own terms, the discovery is that intra-prompt reliability for clinical note generation holds at the semantic level. Exact string output varied hugely between models, from 0% to 100% median consistency rate, yet every model's median semantic consistency exceeded 96%, and five models reached 100% semantic consistency. Correctness, measured as median BERTScore similarity between generated notes and expert ground-truth notes, ranged from about 80 to 88 across models, which the paper notes is higher than a previously reported best BERTScore of 60.8 on the same dataset. Meta's Llama 3.1 70B combines perfect semantic consistency with the best joint position on stability and correctness, Mistral's Small model is second, and both sit above all proprietary models. The paper presents this as evidence that reliable, privacy-preserving clinical note generation is achievable with locally deployed open-weight models.

Load-bearing premise

The study's load-bearing premise is that BERTScore, computed with an unspecified HuggingFace checkpoint, correctly captures both the sameness of meaning across repeated notes and the clinical accuracy of a note relative to an expert note; if that embedding-based score misses clinically decisive errors such as a missing medication or a wrong dosage, the reported reliability ratings and the model ranking may not reflect clinical safety.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • If the reliability ranking is correct, healthcare providers can run Llama 3.1 70B or Mistral Small locally for note generation and avoid sending protected health information to proprietary API endpoints.
  • Because all models stayed above 96% semantic consistency, string equivalence is not a necessary condition for reliable note generation; semantic consistency alone can serve as the monitoring metric for intra-prompt stability.
  • The BERTScore values in the low-to-mid 80s across all models, well above the 60.8 earlier baseline, indicate that current LLM-generated notes are meaningfully closer to expert notes than earlier in-context-learning results on the same dataset.
  • Within the Anthropic, Meta, and Mistral families, smaller models matched or beat their larger siblings on stability, while correctness favored larger models, implying that model choice for clinical note generation involves a separate scale-stability tradeoff for each family.
  • The recommendation to deploy open-weight models locally directly supports compliance with data privacy regulations in healthcare settings, since submitted prompts to proprietary platforms may be retained for training.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If BERTScore is accepted as the right proxy, the paper's results imply that the remaining barrier to clinical use of LLM note generation is correctness rather than stability, pointing future work toward clinical validation, human expert review, and error analysis instead of consistency tuning.
  • Because the BERTScore checkpoint is unspecified, the model ranking reported here may be checkpoint-dependent; recomputing the twelve models with a clinical-domain embedding model would test whether Llama 70B's lead over GPT-4o persists or narrows.
  • The paper's local-deployment recommendation presumes that the privacy and cost benefits of open weights outweigh the operational burden of self-hosting; for low-resource settings, the edge-size Llama 1B and 3B models that achieved perfect semantic consistency but lower semantic similarity could offer a practical tradeoff that the paper does not quantify.
  • Generalizing beyond the aci-bench role-play transcripts, the near-universal high semantic consistency suggests that other long-form clinical summarization tasks, such as discharge summaries or consultation notes in other languages, would also show high stability, though correctness would need to be evaluated separately.
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Referee Report

3 major / 5 minor

Summary. The paper reports an empirical study of 12 large language models (Anthropic, Meta, Mistral, OpenAI) for clinical note generation (CNG) from the aci-bench dataset. Using 112 doctor-patient transcripts and 10 iterations of the same prompt per transcript, it measures three reliability-related quantities: consistency rate (exact string equality), semantic consistency (BERTScore among a model's repeated outputs), and semantic similarity (BERTScore against expert ground-truth notes). The main reported findings are that all models achieve median semantic consistency above 96%, that three models achieve perfect consistency rate, and that Meta's Llama 3.1 70B and Mistral Small are the most reliable models overall, leading the authors to recommend local deployment of relatively small open-weight models for CNG to address data-privacy concerns.

Significance. The paper addresses a genuine gap: empirical evidence on the intra-prompt reliability of open-weight LLMs for clinical note generation. Its methodological strengths include the use of an external public benchmark with expert ground-truth notes, 112 transcripts, 10 repeated runs per transcript, documented deterministic settings for the models, and clear reporting of medians and interquartile ranges for each metric. If the central findings held, they would be practically useful for privacy-conscious local deployment of open-weight models. However, the headline ranking and the 'correctness' interpretation currently rest on statistical comparisons and BERTScore calibration that are not yet established, and there are internal inconsistencies in the reported numbers. These issues need to be addressed before the practical recommendation can be accepted.

major comments (3)
  1. [Section 4.3 and Table 2] The claim that Llama 3.1-70B is 'most reliable considering both semantic consistency and semantic similarity' lacks a defined aggregation rule and statistical support. In Table 2, Llama-70B has SC=100 and SS=85.90±1.29, while GPT-4o-mini has SC=97.40 and SS=87.26±1.24 and ChatGPT-4o has SC=97.52 and SS=87.01±1.33. With no weighting specified and with overlapping IQRs, the asserted ranking could be reversed under an equally plausible weighting of stability versus correctness. I recommend adding an explicit composite reliability index or a paired statistical comparison over the 112 per-transcript values (for example, Wilcoxon signed-rank tests on SC and SS separately, or a paired bootstrap of the rank ordering) before drawing the 'most reliable' conclusion in Sections 4.3 and 5.
  2. [Table 2 versus Figure 3] The numeric results are internally inconsistent between Table 2 and Figure 3. For example, the median semantic similarity for Llama 3.1-70B is reported as 85.90±1.29 in Table 2 but 87.56±1.4 in Figure 3; Claude Haiku is 85.61±0.97 versus 86.01±0.94; Claude Sonnet is 86.52±1.21 versus 86.78±1.17; Llama 3.1-405B is 86.72±1.95 versus 87.44±1.29; and Mistral Small is 85.72±1.71 versus 87.24±1.75. These discrepancies are too large to be dismissed as typographical noise and they directly affect the ranking analysis and the conclusion. The authors must reconcile the values in the table and the figure, and should state which numbers are authoritative. Without this, the headline claim is not stable.
  3. [Sections 3.3.2, 4.2, and 6] Correctness is operationalized solely as BERTScore against the expert ground truth, with no human expert evaluation. Section 6 itself acknowledges the absence of human evaluation, and the prior validation of BERTScore for CNG cited in Section 2 (Giorgi et al., 2023) uses a different setup with in-context learning and temperature 0.2. Because BERTScore can be insensitive to clinically meaningful errors, such as a missing medication or an incorrect dosage, the statement that generated notes are 'correct' or 'close to expert notes' is not yet established. At minimum, the authors should specify the HuggingFace checkpoint used, and provide a calibration of BERTScore against clinician judgment or entity-level accuracy on a subset of the data. This is load-bearing because correctness is one of the two axes on which the 'most reliable' ranking is built.
minor comments (5)
  1. [Section 3.2.1 and Appendix C] The prompt template for Llama models is modified to include the special Llama chat-format tokens. Please clarify whether the change is purely the required chat template or whether any other wording was altered; otherwise the cross-family comparison is confounded and the apparent superiority of Llama 70B over proprietary models may be an artifact of the prompt format.
  2. [Section 4.1] The claim that intra-prompt stability 'may be measured using semantic consistency alone' is stronger than the evidence supports. Consistency rate and semantic consistency capture different aspects of reliability, and the paper itself notes the value of string equivalence as a strict measure. I suggest softening this claim or providing a quantitative argument for why CR can be dropped.
  3. [Table 1] There are minor typographical issues in Table 1: 'ChatGPT-40-mini' should be 'ChatGPT-4o-mini', and the use of 'LLama' in Figure 3 should be made consistent with 'Llama' elsewhere.
  4. [Section 1 and 6] The statement that 'no study exploring the reliability of open-weight LLMs in CNG was found' is a strong claim; please provide a brief summary of the search strategy or soften the claim to avoid overstating the novelty.
  5. [Reproducibility] The manuscript does not include a data or code availability statement. Given the reproducibility value of the experimental protocol (112 transcripts, 10 iterations, explicit model configurations), adding a link to the generation and evaluation code would be useful.

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity: the reliability metrics are direct measurements against an external benchmark, with no fitted parameter or self-citation chain used as a prediction.

full rationale

The paper's derivation chain is: take aci-bench transcripts and expert ground-truth notes, prompt each LLM ten times with the same template, compute consistency rate (string equality), semantic consistency (BERTScore among the ten generated notes), and semantic similarity (BERTScore against the expert note), then aggregate by medians. Each step is an independent measurement of model output against a fixed external dataset. No parameter is fit from the outcome, no uniqueness theorem is imported from the authors, and no reported score is an input to itself by construction. Using BERTScore for both SC and SS is a shared metric choice, but not a reduction: SC compares generated-generated pairs while SS compares generated-ground-truth pairs, so the two quantities are not identical by definition and can move independently. The statement that Llama 70B and Mistral Small are 'most reliable' is an informal joint reading of SC and SS without a specified aggregation function or significance test; that is an under-specified analysis rather than circular reasoning. The numerical discrepancies between Table 2 and Figure 3 and the overlapping IQRs weaken confidence in the ranking, but they are empirical consistency problems, not circularity. The Limitations section explicitly acknowledges the absence of human expert evaluation, prompt optimization, and clinical validation, which is a validity limitation rather than a circular step. Prior work is cited for metric suitability and comparison, and the authors' own SINTA system is mentioned only as motivation, not as evidence for any result. No load-bearing step is justified solely by a self-citation, and no claim is equivalent to its inputs by definition. Therefore the appropriate circularity score is 0.

Assumptions & free parameters 0 free parameters · 3 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The paper introduces no fitted parameters and no invented entities. The measurements depend on three domain assumptions: BERTScore meaningfully captures semantic equivalence and correctness for clinical notes, the aci-bench ground truth notes represent expert quality, and the API configuration with temperature 0 plus top_p 0 plus top_k 1 yields near-deterministic outputs. These assumptions are stated or standard within the paper, but each carries some epistemic risk.

assumptions (3)
  • domain assumption BERTScore is a valid measure of semantic consistency and correctness for clinical notes.
    The paper uses BERTScore to define both semantic consistency and semantic similarity (Sections 2 and 3.3.2). Prior work cited by the authors (Giorgi et al. 2023; Moramarco et al. 2022) supports BERTScore for CNG, but no human validation is performed in this study, and the paper's own limitations call for expert evaluation.
  • domain assumption The aci-bench ground truth notes are expert-quality gold standards.
    Correctness is measured by comparing generated notes to the dataset's ground truth notes (Section 3.1). If these reference notes are not representative of real expert charting, the semantic similarity scores understate or overstate clinical correctness.
  • domain assumption Setting temperature=0, top_p=0, and top_k=1 (where supported) maximizes determinism across API-served models.
    The method section states parameters were set to maximize determinism (Section 3.2.2), yet API serving can introduce nondeterminism, and the paper provides no seeds or API-specific versioning. This affects the interpretation of consistency rates.

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Due to the legal and ethical responsibilities of healthcare providers (HCPs) for accurate documentation and protection of patient data privacy, the natural variability in the responses of large language models (LLMs) presents challenges for incorporating clinical note generation (CNG) systems, driven by LLMs, into real-world clinical processes. The complexity is further amplified by the detailed nature of texts in CNG. To enhance the confidence of HCPs in tools powered by LLMs, this study evaluates the reliability of 12 open-weight and proprietary LLMs from Anthropic, Meta, Mistral, and OpenAI in CNG in terms of their ability to generate notes that are string equivalent (consistency rate), have the same meaning (semantic consistency) and are correct (semantic similarity), across several iterations using the same prompt. The results show that (1) LLMs from all model families are stable, such that their responses are semantically consistent despite being written in various ways, and (2) most of the LLMs generated notes close to the corresponding notes made by experts. Overall, Meta's Llama 70B was the most reliable, followed by Mistral's Small model. With these findings, we recommend the local deployment of these relatively smaller open-weight models for CNG to ensure compliance with data privacy regulations, as well as to improve the efficiency of HCPs in clinical documentation.

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Figure 1
Figure 1. Large Language Model (LLM) Reliability Evaluation Framework for the Task of Clinical Note Generation (CNG). This has two phases, CNG and reliability evaluation, which are executed for each transcript that has a corresponding clinical note made by an expert (ground truth note). (1) CNG starts with said transcript being incorporated into a user prompt template, which then serves as an input to an LLM. The LLM response… view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Correctness of LLMs in CNG. Except for Mistral, the larger models per model family performed better than their smaller models. the performance of Meta’s Llama 70B model and Mistral’s Small model, which both had perfect se￾mantic consistency despite having an imperfect, but notably high, consistency rate. In general, all models had a semantic consistency greater than 96% regardless of the consistency rate, which vari… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Intra-prompt stability of LLMs in CNG. Despite LLMs generating notes written in varied ways, the meaning of these notes were relatively consistent across multiple iterations, implying that these LLMs performed well in terms of intra-prompt stability. choice question-answering tasks. Although the out￾puts of such tasks were linguistically controllable and are short-form texts, none of the LLMs studied by Atil et al. … view at source ↗
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Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Comparison of intra-prompt stability and correctness of LLMs in CNG. Meta’s Llama 70B model and Mistral’s Small model appear to be among the most reliable models. 4.3 Overall LLM Reliability Shown in [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_4.png]
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: Sample data from the aci-bench dataset. An example of the corrected transcript of a natural conversation between a patient and a doctor (clinical conversation transcript), together with its corresponding clinical note which serves as the ground truth note for this stud…
Figure 6
Figure 6. Figure 6: User Prompt Template. This was used to keep the format consistent across all models. <|begin_of_text|> <|start_header_id|>user<|end_header_id|> user_prompt <|eot_id|> [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p010_6.png]
Figure 7
Figure 7. Figure 7: Formatted Prompt Template. This was used to keep the format consistent across all Llama models. user_prompt here refers to the input which contains the transcript included in the User Prompt Template ( [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p010_7.png]

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