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Some constructions of non-generalized Reed-Solomon MDS Codes
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Pith's one-line read This paper proves exact, checkable conditions—nonzero elementary symmetric sums on every k-subset and (k−1)-subset of an evaluation set—under which two classes of extended codes are maximum distance separable (MDS), and shows that in the…
desk verdict Solid incremental contribution to the non-GRS MDS literature; the main determinant arguments check out, but two unproved statements and several typos should be fixed before this becomes a standard reference. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The load-bearing machinery is a pair of generalized Vandermonde determinant identities. Proposition 2.4 (cited from [22]) says that a Vandermonde matrix with one exponent row removed and a new row of exponent $n$ added has determinant equal to the Vandermonde product times the elementary symmetric sum $\sigma_r$; Lemma 2.5 (cited from [20]) says that replacing the top-degree row by exponent $h$ yields the Vandermonde product times the complete symmetric function $S_{h-n+1}$. These identities reduce every relevant $k\times k$ minor of $G_{r,k}$, $G_1$, and $G_2$ to a Vandermonde factor times an elementary or complete symmetric sum, turning the MDS condition that all minors be nonsingular into nonvanishing of those symmetric functions on all subsets of the evaluation set. Lemma 2.6, derived from [16], supplies the orthogonality identities used to verify the parity-check matrices.
What would settle it
A concrete disproof would be a single evaluation set and parameters $(n,k,r)$ for which every $k$-subset has $\sigma_r\neq 0$ and every $(k-1)$-subset has $\sigma_{r-1}\neq 0$, yet some $k\times k$ minor of $G_1$ is singular; Theorem 4.5 says this cannot happen, so a computer search over, say, all $6$-subsets of $\mathbb{F}_{17}$ would settle the necessity claim.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The paper establishes necessary and sufficient conditions for two families of extended codes to be maximum distance separable, and proves that those MDS codes are non-GRS. The first family $C_1$, generated by appending a column $(0,0,\ldots,0,1)^T$ to the generator matrix of the code $C_{r,k}$ introduced in [12], is MDS if and only if every $k$-subset of the evaluation set has nonzero $r$-th elementary symmetric sum $\sigma_r$ and every $(k-1)$-subset has nonzero $\sigma_{r-1}$. The second family $C_2$, with two appended columns, is MDS if and only if the same two conditions hold together with a third condition $(\#)$ involving $\sigma_{r-2}$, the parameter $\delta$, and the sum of the selected evaluation points. The paper also derives parity-check matrices for both families and, via the connection between MDS codes and arcs in finite projective spaces for $k=3$ over even fields, characterizes monomial $o$-polynomials $x^h$ by the nonvanishing of the complete symmetric function $S_{h-2}$ on every triple of distinct field elements.
Load-bearing premise
The whole argument rests on the cited generalized Vandermonde determinant identities holding for every possible subset of evaluation points, including matrices where one exponent row is skipped; if that identity failed for even one subset, the claimed if-and-only-if MDS conditions would collapse.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- If the conditions of Theorem 4.5 are met with $6 \le 2k \le n$, the resulting $[n+1,k]$ code is guaranteed to be a non-GRS MDS code, so the construction yields codes that are optimal in distance and not equivalent to generalized Reed–Solomon codes.
- The explicit parity-check matrices $H_1$ and $H_2$ give a concrete way to verify codewords and study the duals of these non-GRS MDS codes.
- Corollary 4.10 gives the existence of $[n+1,k]$ non-GRS MDS codes over odd primes $p$ whenever $6 \le 2k \le n$ and $n \le p/k + (k+1)/2$.
- Corollaries 4.11 and 4.12 convert the existence of a code with a certain weight-distribution property into the existence of a non-GRS MDS code, such as a $[12,5]$ non-GRS MDS code over $\mathbb{F}_{3^7}$ obtained from an $[11,4,6]$ code over $\mathbb{F}_3$.
- Theorem 6.4 characterizes $o$-monomials: over $\mathbb{F}_{2^m}$, the polynomial $x^h$ is an $o$-polynomial if and only if $S_{h-2}$ is nonzero on every triple of distinct field elements.
Reading between the lines
- Inference: the same determinant pattern suggests that adding further extending columns would impose one additional elementary-symmetric nonvanishing condition per added column, with the cases $r=1$ and $r=2$ behaving as lower-order degenerations; the paper does not state this.
- Inference: because the conditions in Theorem 4.5 are purely combinatorial conditions on the evaluation set, they give a cheap filter for searching large finite fields for new non-GRS MDS codes; the paper does not discuss search cost.
- Inference: Theorem 6.4 turns the $o$-monomial question into a finite verification problem, namely checking $S_{h-2}\neq 0$ on triples, which could be implemented directly as a computational test for candidate exponents $h$; the paper only states the equivalence.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper studies two classes of extended codes built from the code family C_{r,k} introduced by Jin, Ma, Xing, and Zhou, and proves necessary and sufficient conditions for these codes to be MDS: Theorem 3.2 characterizes when C_{r,k} itself is MDS, Theorem 4.5 characterizes the one-point extension C_1 by the nonvanishing of two families of elementary symmetric sums, and Theorem 5.5 gives a three-condition plus an extra delta-condition characterization for the two-point extension C_2. The paper also gives parity-check matrices for these codes and, in Section 6, connects 3-dimensional MDS codes to o-polynomials, characterizing o-monomials x^h by nonvanishing of complete symmetric sums S_{h-2} on triples.
Significance. The central contribution is a clean, explicit equivalence between MDS-ness of these code families and nonvanishing of concrete symmetric polynomials in the evaluation points. The proofs are largely elementary determinant identities rather than black-box arguments, and the conditions are directly checkable; the examples are verified with MAGMA. I traced the applications of Proposition 2.4 and Lemma 2.5 in Theorems 3.2, 4.5, and 5.5, and the parameter shifts (r to r-1 or r-2 when passing to smaller square minors) are correct, so the main determinant-based concern does not land. The non-GRS label is inherited from the prior Schur-square result in [12], with the paper's own contribution being the MDS characterization and the transfer argument via Lemma 4.2. The main mathematical core is sound.
minor comments (8)
- [Section 4, Corollary 4.11] Corollary 4.11 is asserted without proof or citation; it is not an immediate consequence of the preceding theorems, so please either supply a proof or replace the statement by a precise reference to the source.
- [Section 5, Proposition 5.2] Proposition 5.2 has no proof; saying that the proof is similar to Theorem 5.1 is not enough because the last row entry delta-S_2 differs from the entry b in Theorem 5.1, so please include the orthogonality calculation or cite a reference where this exact matrix is derived.
- [Section 6, Theorem 6.4] Theorem 6.4 is stated for every positive integer h with gcd(h,q-1)=1, but the expression S_{h-2} is undefined for h=1; please add the hypothesis h >= 2, and either treat the case q=2, h=1 separately or exclude it, since for q>2 the polynomial x is not an o-polynomial.
- [Section 5, Proposition 5.6] In the first displayed condition of Proposition 5.6, the indices j_2,...,j_r do not exist when r=1; the condition should be the nonvanishing of the sum of the k selected evaluation points.
- [Sections 4 and 5] When Proposition 2.4 is applied to a (k-1)x(k-1) or (k-2)x(k-2) minor in Theorems 4.5 and 5.5, the parameter r is implicitly replaced by r-1 or r-2; stating this substitution explicitly would improve readability and prevent a common source of confusion.
- [Section 5, definition of G2] The displayed matrix G2 before Theorem 5.1 appears to assume r >= 2; for r=1 the matrix must be understood through the accompanying description of C_2, so please indicate this explicitly in the definition.
- [Throughout] There are several typographical errors: 'coloumn' in Section 2, 'deep whole' in Corollaries 4.15 and 5.9, and 'o-polinomial' in Section 6.
- [Section 5, Remark 5.3] The notation H_{n-k+2} in Remark 5.3 is not defined in the paper; please define the matrix from [29] or avoid the notation.
Circularity Check
No circularity found: the central MDS derivations rest on external determinant identities and an external non-GRS base, with only independent self-cited lemmas.
full rationale
The derivation chain is self-contained rather than circular. Theorem 3.2 reduces every k-by-k minor of G_{r,k} to a Vandermonde determinant times the elementary symmetric sum sigma_r via Proposition 2.4, which is cited from Muir's external determinant treatise [22]; the necessity direction uses exactly the same identity, so its content is not presupposed. The non-GRS assertion is imported from Jin et al. [12], an external source, not from the present authors. The extension results Theorems 4.5 and 5.5 likewise apply Proposition 2.4 and Lemma 2.5 (from Marchi [20]) to the appended-column minors; the computations identify the relevant minor as a cofactor matrix of the same type, with parameters r-1 and r-2, and the r=1 and r=2 edge cases reduce to Vandermonde determinants. These are direct derivations, not renamings of the desired conclusion. The self-citations that appear are not circular loads: Lemma 4.2 from [27] (a paper co-authored by Ding) is used to transfer non-GRS from C_{r,k} to its extensions, but it is an elementary parameter-free statement whose contrapositive is true by puncturing a monomial-equivalent GRS code; the cited theorem does not assume the target result. Theorem 4.14 from [26] is used only to draw corollaries about covering radii and deep holes, and it is not used to establish the MDS or non-GRS conclusions. The unproved Corollary 4.11, the omitted proof of Proposition 5.2, and the compressed proofs of Theorems 4.7 and 5.7 are presentation gaps, not circular reductions. No fitted parameter is relabeled as a prediction, and no theorem's conclusion is equivalent to its hypotheses by construction.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (1)
- delta =
any field element satisfying condition (#) in Theorem 5.5
assumptions (4)
- standard math Singleton bound and the MDS generator-matrix criterion (Lemma 2.3)
- standard math Vandermonde determinant identities (Proposition 2.4, Lemma 2.5, Lemma 2.6)
- domain assumption Theorem 6.3: a length q+2 code from an o-polynomial is MDS if and only if the polynomial is an o-polynomial
- domain assumption The prior non-GRS result for C_{r,k} from [12, Proposition VI.1]
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read the original abstract
We investigate two classes of extended codes and provide necessary and sufficient conditions for these codes to be non-GRS MDS codes. We also determine the parity check matrices for these codes. Using the connection of MDS codes with arcs in finite projective spaces, we give a new characterization of o-monomials.
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