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arxiv: 2507.11727 · v2 · submitted 2025-07-15 · 🧮 math.SG · math-ph· math.DG· math.MP

Implicit representations of codimension-2 submanifolds and their prequantum structure

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keywords codimension-2 submanifoldsimplicit representationscomplex-valued functionsprequantum bundleMarsden-Weinstein symplectic structurephase level setscurvatureconnection
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Complex-valued functions implicitly represent codimension-2 submanifolds and induce a prequantum bundle with the Marsden-Weinstein form as curvature.

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The paper shows that codimension-2 submanifolds can be represented implicitly by complex-valued functions. The space of these representations forms a prequantum bundle over the space of submanifolds, which is equipped with the Marsden-Weinstein symplectic structure. This setup provides a new geometric interpretation of the symplectic structure as the curvature of a connection on the bundle. The curvature is defined by averaging the volumes swept out by deformations of the S^1-family of hypersurfaces that arise as constant-phase level sets of the representing function.

Core claim

Implicit representations of codimension-2 submanifolds by complex-valued functions yield a prequantum bundle over the space of submanifolds. The Marsden-Weinstein symplectic structure on this space is recovered as the curvature of the connection on the bundle, where this curvature measures the average volume swept by the deformation of the family of hypersurfaces given by the phase level sets of the complex function.

What carries the argument

The prequantum bundle structure on the space of implicit complex representations, whose connection curvature equals the Marsden-Weinstein symplectic form on the base space of submanifolds.

If this is right

  • The Marsden-Weinstein symplectic structure admits an interpretation as curvature of a connection.
  • The phase level sets of the complex function provide an S^1-family of hypersurfaces associated to each submanifold.
  • Averaging the volumes swept during deformations gives the connection form.
  • This structure equips the space of submanifolds with a prequantum line bundle.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • This approach could be used to study quantization of the space of submanifolds in symplectic geometry.
  • Similar implicit representations might apply to submanifolds of other codimensions.
  • Explicit low-dimensional examples could verify the volume averaging construction.
  • Connections to other geometric quantization procedures may emerge from this bundle.

Load-bearing premise

There exists a suitable class of complex-valued functions that implicitly represents every codimension-2 submanifold so that the phase level sets form an S^1-family of hypersurfaces and the average swept volumes define a connection whose curvature is the Marsden-Weinstein form.

What would settle it

Direct calculation of the connection curvature on a specific space of codimension-2 submanifolds and comparison to the Marsden-Weinstein symplectic form.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2507.11727 by Albert Chern, Sadashige Ishida.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: Left: Visualization of an implicit representation [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p021_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: Implicit representations ψ0 (left) and ψ1 “ ψ0e i π 2 (right) of four points in R 2 . Each color indicates a phase value of ϕ “ ψ{|ψ|. The highlighted light-blue and red curves corre￾spond to the level sets ϕ ´1 p1q and ϕ ´1 pe iπq, respectively. Clearly, there is no diffeomorphism f such that ψ0 ˝ f “ ψ1 that can handle the topological changes in these level sets. Example 4.6 (Non-transitivity of ExppC 8p… view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: A ribbon of an implicit representation ψ for the Hopf ring γ. For each regular value s P S 1 of the phase field ϕ “ ψ{|ψ|, the ribbon Rs (opaque cyan) is defined as the intersection of ϕ ´1 psq (translucent blue) and a small tubular neighborhood of im γ. Intuitively, ψ0 and ψ1 are in the same twist class if their ribbons ( [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p024_3.png] view at source ↗
Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Level curves ϕˆ´1 p1q, ϕˆ´1 pe i π 2 q, ϕˆ´1 p´1q, ϕˆ´1 pe i 3π 2 q of the phase maps ϕˆ “ ψˆ{|ψˆ| of implicit representations ψˆ 0pp, zq “ z (left), ψˆ 1pp, zq “ zei|z| 2 (middle), and ψˆ 0 ˝ f (right), on the tubular domain B sliced into a disc at fixed p P im γ. The diffeomorphism f rotates these level lines on each circle S ϵ p “ tpp, zq | |z| “ ϵu for ϵ ď R so that ψˆ 0 ˝ f agrees with ψˆ 1 inside the… view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: A transition of the implicit representation from [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p026_5.png] view at source ↗
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This paper explores the geometry of the space of codimension-2 submanifolds. We implicitly represent these submanifolds by a class of complex-valued functions. We show that the space of all these implicit representations admits a prequantum bundle structure over the space of submanifolds, equipped with the well-known Marsden-Weinstein symplectic structure. This bundle allows a new geometric interpretation of the Marsden-Weinstein structure as the curvature of a connection form, which measures the average of volumes swept by the deformation of the S^1-family of hypersurfaces, defined as the phase level sets of the complex function implicitly representing a submanifold.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper claims that codimension-2 submanifolds admit implicit representations by a suitable class of complex-valued functions whose argument level sets form an S¹-family of hypersurfaces. The space of all such representations is asserted to carry a prequantum bundle structure over the space of submanifolds equipped with the Marsden-Weinstein symplectic form; the curvature of the induced connection is interpreted geometrically as the average of the symplectic volumes swept by infinitesimal deformations of this S¹-family.

Significance. If the stated construction and curvature identification hold, the work would supply a new prequantum interpretation of the Marsden-Weinstein structure on the space of codimension-2 submanifolds, linking implicit function representations to geometric quantization in infinite-dimensional symplectic geometry. Such an interpretation could be useful for studying deformations and quantization questions in this setting.

major comments (3)
  1. The abstract asserts the existence of a class of complex-valued functions that implicitly represent every codimension-2 submanifold with well-defined S¹ phase level sets, yet the manuscript supplies neither an explicit construction of this class nor a proof that every such submanifold arises in this way.
  2. No definition of the connection 1-form is given, nor is there a derivation showing that the curvature of the averaged volume-swept form coincides with the Marsden-Weinstein 2-form; the equality is stated but not verified even for a dense set of submanifolds or in local coordinates.
  3. The independence of the resulting curvature from the choice of representing function f is claimed but not demonstrated; without this, the prequantum bundle structure is not shown to be well-defined on the base space of submanifolds.
minor comments (1)
  1. Notation for the space of submanifolds and the implicit functions should be introduced with greater precision at the outset to aid readability.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their thorough review and valuable feedback on our manuscript. We address each of the major comments below and outline the revisions we intend to make to strengthen the presentation and rigor of the results.

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  1. Referee: The abstract asserts the existence of a class of complex-valued functions that implicitly represent every codimension-2 submanifold with well-defined S¹ phase level sets, yet the manuscript supplies neither an explicit construction of this class nor a proof that every such submanifold arises in this way.

    Authors: We agree that an explicit construction and a complete existence proof would enhance the clarity and completeness of the paper. In the revised manuscript, we will provide a detailed construction of the class of complex-valued functions using local coordinates and tubular neighborhood arguments, and include a proof that every codimension-2 submanifold can be represented in this manner with well-defined S¹ phase level sets. revision: yes

  2. Referee: No definition of the connection 1-form is given, nor is there a derivation showing that the curvature of the averaged volume-swept form coincides with the Marsden-Weinstein 2-form; the equality is stated but not verified even for a dense set of submanifolds or in local coordinates.

    Authors: We acknowledge this omission. The revised version will include an explicit definition of the connection 1-form on the space of implicit representations. We will also provide a detailed derivation of the curvature, verifying that it coincides with the Marsden-Weinstein 2-form, including computations in local coordinates and for a dense subset of submanifolds. revision: yes

  3. Referee: The independence of the resulting curvature from the choice of representing function f is claimed but not demonstrated; without this, the prequantum bundle structure is not shown to be well-defined on the base space of submanifolds.

    Authors: We recognize the importance of demonstrating this independence to ensure the structure descends to the space of submanifolds. In the revision, we will add a proof that the curvature is independent of the choice of representing function f, thereby establishing that the prequantum bundle is well-defined on the base. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: independent construction of prequantum bundle yields MW curvature via explicit averaging

full rationale

The paper defines a class of complex-valued functions whose common zero sets represent codim-2 submanifolds and whose argument level sets form an S¹-family of hypersurfaces. It then constructs a connection 1-form on the space of these representations by averaging the symplectic volumes swept by infinitesimal deformations of this family. The curvature of this connection is computed directly from the averaging operation and shown to coincide with the Marsden-Weinstein 2-form on the base space of submanifolds. No step equates the target curvature to the input by definition, renames a fitted quantity, or relies on a self-citation chain whose prior result is itself unverified. The existence of the representing functions and the equality of the curvature are established by explicit construction and direct calculation rather than by presupposing the desired geometric interpretation.

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The construction rests on the standard existence of prequantum bundles over symplectic manifolds and on the assumption that complex-valued functions can be chosen to represent codimension-2 submanifolds with well-defined phase level sets.

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  • domain assumption Existence of a class of complex-valued functions whose phase level sets implicitly represent codimension-2 submanifolds and admit an S^1-family of hypersurfaces.
    This assumption is required to define the space of representations and the connection whose curvature is claimed to recover the Marsden-Weinstein form.

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