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Can Large Multimodal Models Actively Recognize Faulty Inputs? A Systematic Evaluation Framework of Their Input Scrutiny Ability

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Pith's one-line read Large multimodal models mostly fail to actively detect flawed textual premises, and only explicit prompts trigger reliable scrutiny.

desk verdict A useful benchmark for a real question, but the headline finding likely muddles 'didn't say anything' with 'didn't notice,' and I couldn't verify the full text. read the letter →

arxiv 2508.04017 v1 pith:NZ7G6LTT submitted 2025-08-06 cs.CV

Haiqi Yang , Jinzhe Li , Gengxu Li , Yi Chang , Yuan Wu This is my paper
classification cs.CV
keywords inputscrutinylargemultimodalmodelsbenchmarkpremiseverificationhallucinationerrordetectionmodalitytrustISEval
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The reading

This paper tries to establish that large multimodal models do not proactively check whether the textual premises they are given are valid. It introduces ISEval, a benchmark with seven categories of flawed premises and three evaluation metrics, and reports results across ten models. The headline finding is a gap between guided and unguided performance: models detect errors when explicitly told to look for them, but much less often on their own. If true, this means reliance on explicit prompt instructions, not genuine vigilance, is what keeps these systems from reasoning on false premises.

What carries the argument

ISEval, the Input Scrutiny Ability Evaluation Framework: a set of seven categories of flawed premises and three evaluation metrics applied to multimodal inputs. Its defining move is to compare model responses with and without an explicit instruction to scrutinise the premise, so that 'active' scrutiny is measured separately from prompt-following.

What would settle it

Take the ISEval items and add newly generated flaws outside the seven categories, presented both with and without explicit verification instructions. If models detect the new flaw types unguided at rates close to their guided rates, the claimed passive-acceptance failure is specific to the chosen taxonomy rather than general input scrutiny.

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Core claim

The paper's central claim is that large multimodal models are strong at following instructions to verify inputs but weak at spontaneously doing so. On ten models, unguided detection of flawed textual premises is generally low; performance rises when the prompt explicitly asks for verification. Error type modulates the result: logical fallacies are detected more often than surface-level linguistic errors and certain conditional flaws. Model behaviour also differs in how much it trusts text versus image evidence: some models balance both, while at least one model over-relies on textual content, missing contradictions in the image. The practical upshot is that current LMMs cannot be assumed to

Load-bearing premise

The benchmark's seven categories and three metrics are assumed to be a representative and meaningful measure of 'input scrutiny ability'; if the taxonomy is arbitrary or the scoring rewards phrasing, the headline failure rates will not generalize to real faulty inputs.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Applications built on multimodal models should add an explicit verification stage rather than assume the model vets its own inputs.
  • Benchmarks should report per-category results, since aggregate scores hide the gap between logical-fallacy detection and surface-level language errors.
  • The finding that some models over-trust text over images implies conflict-resolution training is a needed target for improvement.
  • ISEval provides a common yardstick for comparing future models on input scrutiny, not just on output accuracy.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The guided-versus-unguided gap suggests models may possess verification capability that is not deployed by default; a testable hypothesis is that decoding-time self-verification methods will close the gap without changing weights.
  • Because passive acceptance of faulty premises is a known contributor to hallucinated answers, ISEval scores could be checked against hallucination-benchmark scores to see whether input scrutiny is a separable skill.
  • The taxonomy is text-centric; a natural extension is to faulty visual premises, such as doctored or contradictory images, which would test whether the modality-trust findings hold when the image, not the text, is wrong.
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Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

3 major / 3 minor

Summary. The paper introduces ISEval, a benchmark framework for evaluating whether large multimodal models (LMMs) actively scrutinize faulty inputs. It proposes seven categories of flawed premises, three evaluation metrics, and reports an evaluation of ten LMMs. Based on the abstract, the main findings are: (i) most models fail to actively detect flawed textual premises unless explicitly prompted; (ii) performance varies by error type, with logical fallacies easier than surface-level linguistic errors and some conditional flaws; and (iii) models differ in how they weight visual versus textual evidence in conflicts. Code is released. My review is limited to the abstract because the supplied full-text file is corrupted and unreadable.

Significance. If the construct validity of the benchmark can be established, this is a timely and useful contribution: proactive input verification is distinct from passive acceptance and is important for reliable LMM deployment. Releasing code and evaluating ten models are concrete strengths. However, the contribution stands or falls on the validity of the metrics and on whether 'active' detection is measured as a distinct capability rather than as a response-format artifact.

major comments (3)
  1. [Abstract (first finding)] The headline claim that models 'struggle to actively detect flawed textual premises without guidance' conflates failure to volunteer scrutiny with failure to detect it. If the evaluation scores only whether a model spontaneously mentions the error in an open-ended answer, a model that correctly identifies the error when asked directly would still be scored as failing. The paper needs a control condition: present the same flawed premises with an explicit prompt such as 'Is there any error?' and report the agreement/disagreement with the open-ended condition. Without this, the central claim is not established.
  2. [Abstract (ISEval description)] The abstract lists seven categories of flawed premises and three evaluation metrics but gives no definitions, examples, scoring rubrics, or validation. The reader cannot assess whether the taxonomy is comprehensive or whether the scoring rewards genuine detection rather than superficial phrasing. The modality-trust finding, in particular, requires that the conflict stimuli are unambiguously flawed; otherwise 'over-rely on text' could be an artifact of ambiguous items. The paper should report human annotation protocols, inter-annotator agreement, and false-positive rates on valid inputs.
  3. [Abstract (quantitative claims)] All findings are stated qualitatively: 'most models struggle,' 'models excel at logical fallacies but struggle with surface-level errors,' 'aya-vision-8b over-rely on text.' No numbers, error bars, or statistical tests are reported in the abstract. Because the supplied full text is not decipherable, I cannot verify whether the body contains the necessary tables and significance tests. If those details are absent, the conclusions outrun the evidence; if they are present, the abstract should include representative numeric results.
minor comments (3)
  1. [Abstract] The abstract should enumerate the ten evaluated models with exact version numbers; 'aya-vision-8b' is not a standard instantiation and needs a citation.
  2. [Abstract] The phrase 'reflects a strong reliance on explicit prompts' is causal; the design is observational. Rephrase to 'suggests' or 'is consistent with' to avoid overstatement.
  3. [Full text] The provided full-text file is heavily corrupted (mojibake). If this reflects the arXiv PDF's text layer, please re-upload; otherwise, the submission package should include a readable version. I could not inspect the methods, tables, or appendices.

Circularity Check

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No circularity: ISEval is an externally anchored empirical benchmark, not a derivation that reduces to its own inputs.

full rationale

This paper is an empirical evaluation study rather than a formal derivation: it introduces ISEval, constructs seven categories of flawed premises and three evaluation metrics, and then measures ten large multimodal models against them. The central finding—'Most models struggle to actively detect flawed textual premises without guidance'—is an observed behavioral result, not a quantity defined by the metrics or fitted from the same data and then renamed as a prediction. There are no equations, fitted parameters, or self-citation chains that force the outcome. The concern raised by the skeptic that the task format may conflate failure to volunteer scrutiny with failure to detect it is a construct-validity threat about whether the benchmark measures what it claims; that is a correctness and generalization risk, not circularity under the specified criteria. The garbled full text prevents inspection of the exact rubrics, but absent any quoted reduction of a claimed result to its own input definition, no circular step can be identified. The benchmark is also self-contained against external models, so the appropriate finding is no significant circularity.

Assumptions & free parameters 0 free parameters · 1 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The central claim depends on the assumption that the seven categories and three metrics are a valid operationalization of 'input scrutiny ability'. No free parameters or invented entities are introduced in the abstract; the benchmark itself is the main artifact.

assumptions (1)
  • domain assumption The seven categories of flawed premises are representative of real-world faulty inputs.
    The abstract introduces these categories as the basis of the framework but does not provide evidence of comprehensiveness or derivation from observed failure modes.

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Large Multimodal Models (LMMs) have witnessed remarkable growth, showcasing formidable capabilities in handling intricate multimodal tasks with exceptional performance. Recent research has underscored the inclination of large language models to passively accept defective inputs, often resulting in futile reasoning on invalid prompts. However, the same critical question of whether LMMs can actively detect and scrutinize erroneous inputs still remains unexplored. To address this gap, we introduce the Input Scrutiny Ability Evaluation Framework (ISEval), which encompasses seven categories of flawed premises and three evaluation metrics. Our extensive evaluation of ten advanced LMMs has identified key findings. Most models struggle to actively detect flawed textual premises without guidance, which reflects a strong reliance on explicit prompts for premise error identification. Error type affects performance: models excel at identifying logical fallacies but struggle with surface-level linguistic errors and certain conditional flaws. Modality trust varies-Gemini 2.5 pro and Claude Sonnet 4 balance visual and textual info, while aya-vision-8b over-rely on text in conflicts. These insights underscore the urgent need to enhance LMMs' proactive verification of input validity and shed novel insights into mitigating the problem. The code is available at https://github.com/MLGroupJLU/LMM_ISEval.

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